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URGENT: U.S. Investigating Cargo Plane Rehearsal for Terror
Fox News ^ | October 29, 2010 | Fox News

Posted on 10/29/2010 12:42:36 PM PDT by conservativegramma

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To: arkady_renko

President on saying absolutely nothing new. He wants to appear in charge.


Nothing the bastard does will improve his image.


51 posted on 10/29/2010 2:25:33 PM PDT by unkus
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To: conservativegramma
I disagree with some of the comments posted.

No, I don't know for certain what this is or what the Islamic Terrorists really have in mind.

But, they are at war with us whether we accept it or not. One thing that is useful in a war is intelligence on your enemies strengths, weaknesses and how they will respond. They may be crazy but they are not all stupid.

A false attack like this gains them many useful pieces of information. What we know about them, how, when and where we will respond and most important of all, who among them are traitors, spies or leaks. And, accomplishes this with little loss of materials or resources.

I hope I am wrong but I believe their target and timing is not our elections. It is the coming Christmas holiday. This was just a test to measure our response and maximize their results next time while also cleaning up "loose ends" in their organization.

Then again, maybe it is just an eleventh hour, political stunt of desperation from a certain political party.

52 posted on 10/29/2010 2:31:44 PM PDT by sjmjax
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To: sjmjax
I suspect you are right.

One thing I have gathered is that the islamic groups have been getting schooled in strategy. They realize there are much “softer” targets in the US and on our supply line.

53 posted on 10/29/2010 3:06:14 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: sjmjax
Gee, you had to spoil the party by bringing critical thinking skills and analysis to bear on this report.

/s

54 posted on 10/29/2010 3:07:51 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Nachoman
As a diversion. I'd be looking for an attack on rail lines or the power grid.

You're reading my mind.

55 posted on 10/29/2010 3:14:11 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: TomGuy
FEDEX has stopped all deliveries from Yemen.

There goes the world's supply of camel semen.

56 posted on 10/29/2010 3:15:46 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: conservativegramma

I came to FR to see what my FRiends were saying about this “breaking news.”

Did anyone else belive this is a STEAMING LOAD OF CRAP like I do or am I the only one?

YES!!! I LOVE YOU GUYS!!


57 posted on 10/29/2010 3:19:11 PM PDT by Humidston (For the first time in my adult life I FEAR my government.)
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To: Nachoman

or water supply.


58 posted on 10/29/2010 3:21:33 PM PDT by justsaynomore (We've got some altering and abolishing to do! - Herman Cain)
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To: conservativegramma

What else can we expect when a Muzzie rules the strings of power?

Lock and load.


59 posted on 10/29/2010 3:34:19 PM PDT by Monkey Face (If everything is coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.)
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To: conservativegramma

They sure have a funny way of calculating politics over there at the White House.

Sure, this may be an October Surprise and giant hand-waving exercise to distract from exceedingly low Democrat expectations next week. But in the end, my polling and demographics indicate that anything related to national security *additional failures* and yet another set of “dodged bullets” redounds to the opposition, meaning us. It will put into stark relief how good we had it under Bush wherein we hardly ever saw public activity about terrorism (until declassified years later, and never around an election), whether reporting on failed attempts or roundups or silly ideas about where to have a trial. Our energized right wing may also do what we all have done here: called BS on the timing and see it as a highly cynical ploy or failure; not that helpful nationally in either case.

What I found most funny listening to the President give the TOTUS’ banal blather about “always being vigilant against all forms of extremism” (typically and explicitly excepting Muslim extremism) is that not 48 hours ago, he was “always being vigilant” by being laughed off Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz’ sound stage. haha

Lastly, would somebody please cue for me the history of John O. Brennan? I seem to have a mental segment of lost time. My poor brain tells me that this no-talent assclown and Obama apologist did seppuku sometime after the failed Christmas bombing last year and left the Regime. Yet here he is again up on the dais, briefing us on how he and crew failed to protect us yet again. WTF? Wasn’t he gone gone gone? So was he resurrected a la Van Jones, simply sliding over into another role that is, um, very much like his old role but just a different title?


60 posted on 10/29/2010 3:48:48 PM PDT by hausermann (Barackus Primus Libertatis Malleus)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
DNC “October surprise”.

Don't doubt anything panicking Dems might pull out of their union hats. But any kind of terrorist activity will just encourage more people to vote against anti military open border Liberals.

61 posted on 10/29/2010 4:00:21 PM PDT by alrea
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To: conservativegramma
October surprise.

Looks like Imam Obama got some of his buddies in Yemen to haul some explosives, and then the Feds were tipped off in order to look like heroes.

It won't work.

62 posted on 10/29/2010 4:08:47 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Gaffer
Makes me wonder, why would they be picking jewish organisations in Chicago? How would they know about them in Yemen? Coincidence that this admin staff is mainly from Chicago area? There must be hundreds of other suitable locations in many states to carry out a plot. And why did they pick a jewish org? A group that probably is more security minded than most others. I smell something! You don't go ninja'n on someone who don't need ninjin! Ya start with a judey chop first.
63 posted on 10/29/2010 4:24:09 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Gaffer

Makes me wonder, why would they be picking jewish organisations in Chicago? How would they know about them in Yemen? Coincidence that this admin staff is mainly from Chicago area? There must be hundreds of other suitable locations in many states to carry out a plot. And why did they pick a jewish org? A group that probably is more security minded than most others.

I smell something!

You don’t go ninja’n on someone who don’t need ninjin!
Ya start with a judey chop first.


64 posted on 10/29/2010 4:24:25 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: conservativegramma

Gee,,,just in time for the elections. What a coincidence. Now they can say “see how safe us commies are keeping you?” DU`ers are already saying what a great opportunity this is for the donks for the elections.


65 posted on 10/29/2010 4:50:54 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: conservativegramma

Dem tricks to get more treats on Nov 2nd.


66 posted on 10/29/2010 5:34:11 PM PDT by tflabo
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To: conservativegramma
Something don't smell right and it seems that the Obama team and the Democrats are trying to manufacture a crises..
A few days ago, there were 50 US Nuclear Missiles that went off line and they still have not found out why and will not give us a good answer why, and now this terrorist threat that Obama knew ahead of time and didn't bother to stop the plane from entering US air space.
67 posted on 10/29/2010 5:38:30 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Jess79

Why not Glenn Beck go on prime time and release the information ?


68 posted on 10/29/2010 5:45:34 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: conservativegramma

Actually this is the moos in Yemen (iranian proxies no doubt) attempting to derail the elections like they did in Spain. It was caught but the real news is we have to use cargo planes between the civilized and the cretinous worlds.


69 posted on 10/29/2010 6:19:27 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I just checked out DU. A few over there are saying that they think it is fake.


70 posted on 10/29/2010 6:20:44 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: kinghorse

Now what is a scary thought is if Obama has the contacts over there to set this up with a single call. I bet he does.


71 posted on 10/29/2010 6:21:51 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: conservativegramma

Don’t forget UPS-6

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPS_Airlines_Flight_6


72 posted on 10/29/2010 6:23:08 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: Always Independent

This is an attempted “October surprise”. It was a disaster for the Feds!!! Do you understand the disruption of lives over this “Keystone cop “ Operation THAT FOUND FRICKING NOTHING!! There should be imprisonment for this incompetence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


73 posted on 10/29/2010 6:44:09 PM PDT by Benchim
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To: SkyPilot; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; ...
Ping For BOMBS Good Job Sky, OCTOBER SURPRISE!!!! My thoughts exactly. The Yemeni Committee of the disaffected Islamic Democrat Party. Last election they sent money. This time they sent pseudo bombs............to create an ObaHero. Will it be enough to declare martial law and postpone the erection? Well it depends on how Yemeni go off!!!!

Bauhahahahahahahahahahahaha!

74 posted on 10/29/2010 6:58:36 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: American Constitutionalist

US Investigates Nuclear Missile Incident

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2616815/posts


75 posted on 10/29/2010 7:05:45 PM PDT by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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To: Candor7
I heard on the news a while ago that there were no power sources in the packages to set the explosives off.

Set up. False flag. Wag the dog. The ole okie doke! He tried to bamboozle us.

76 posted on 10/29/2010 7:09:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

My thoughts exactly. These people don’t even try to be subtle or clever any more.
First they pull several billion out of the money market on Sept. 17 of 2008 and cause the panic. Now this.

Of course, the ocean levels were supposed to turn back and all the hatred for America to disappear when the Ahole was elected. The lamestream propaganda media won’t remind the nation of that, of course. They’ll just pump it up like good little servants.


77 posted on 10/29/2010 7:10:27 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’m not sure I understand some of the reactions here. If this had been written off as a false alarm, their would be hue and cry about Obama “covering up” a plot right before the elections, because it would look like the terrorists are operating unassailed. Because they come out and say, “yes, this is a credible threat,” it’s an October surprise?? Explain to me how this helps someone like Harry Reid? I’m not getting it.

In my opinion, these devices were to be sent as warnings. i.e., they were not intended to detonate, but to be received as a threat at these synagogues, or perhaps to satisfy a pre-requisite tradition to present a warning before launching the main act.

The only other possibility is that someone at the cargo facility at O’Hare was had the responsibility of intercepting the packages and then delivering the detonatable bombs to the synagogues of address.


78 posted on 10/29/2010 7:11:59 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: TigersEye

Interesting.

But what if we get 10 or 15 that get through and go off between now and Tuesday?

Sorreee..election postponed......?

These Dem operatives are so low....lower than snakes and twice as poisonous.


79 posted on 10/29/2010 7:15:02 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Benchim

I don’t think this was a dry run, I think these were meant to be found with no casualties!


80 posted on 10/29/2010 7:17:35 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Rutles4Ever
I agree. A lot of people on FR are sounding like DUmmies about this. The mohammedans haven't stopped just because there's a wimpy Marxist mohammedphile in the white house.

Remember Madrid, folks?

81 posted on 10/29/2010 7:18:15 PM PDT by upstanding
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To: TigersEye

Why would a setup NOT include a power source? It would be much more troublesome for a completely constructed bomb to be shipped over here. It wouldn’t have to be set to detonate at all if it were just a ruse.

The fact that there was no power source tells me this was a delivery for completion of construction, and then implementation.


82 posted on 10/29/2010 7:18:15 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: TigersEye

Why would a setup NOT include a power source? It would be much more troublesome for a completely constructed bomb to be shipped over here. It wouldn’t have to be set to detonate at all if it were just a ruse.

The fact that there was no power source tells me this was a delivery for completion of construction, and then implementation.


83 posted on 10/29/2010 7:18:15 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Always Independent

I think the terrorist win if we make dumb assed moves like this== NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. It is sickening how stupid we are.


84 posted on 10/29/2010 7:21:59 PM PDT by Benchim
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To: Benchim

Remember, BO said we can absorb another attack. ONe only can hope that it is absorbed by those deserving to absorb it.


85 posted on 10/29/2010 7:27:45 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: Benchim

I don’t understand why you think this is an October surprise. Why would they create a partially constructed bomb for a ruse? And then disrupt business not only at UPS but FedEx and other carriers? I don’t know if you’re aware of this, but the White House and the DHS can pretty much plant any story they want in the heavily liberal press. They wouldn’t need to go to such ridiculous lengths. What if the bomb wasn’t discovered in London? Then what? To get to a synagogue shipped from the East Coast to Chicago would take at least three business days, which would put the receive date AFTER the elections, not before...


86 posted on 10/29/2010 7:32:52 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever

I see a small round flat battery.
87 posted on 10/29/2010 7:34:09 PM PDT by NeverEVERKerry (I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
Thanks conservativegramma.
U.S. investigating whether multiple suspicious packages originating in Yemen and found aboard international cargo flights in Newark, Philadelphia and England are part of a terrorist dry run for a mail bomb attack.

88 posted on 10/29/2010 7:36:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: TigersEye; Candor7

“I heard on the news a while ago that there were no power sources in the packages to set the explosives off. “
~~~
Things that make me go mmmmmmmmm,,,

No cap/fuse = No way to set them off,,,

It was reported to be Semtex,,,

No cap or det.cord no Boom!...


89 posted on 10/29/2010 7:37:04 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Rutles4Ever
The fact that there was no power source tells me this was a delivery for completion of construction, and then implementation.

I heard it on Fox News but we have to start with the possibility that their info was wrong. But I have heard all day that the packages were addressed to specific locations. Jewish centers in Chicago. That sounds like the intended target not an intermediate jihadi.

90 posted on 10/29/2010 7:43:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
If that report is true then they were never intended to go off.

Mmm mmm mmm.

91 posted on 10/29/2010 7:48:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Rutles4Ever

total Joke. The answer your question is “YES” . DOn’T CLOSE DOWN THE EASTERN US !!! What a damned bunch of idiots!!


92 posted on 10/29/2010 7:50:42 PM PDT by Benchim
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To: TigersEye

True. Which is why I surmised the possibility of an intercept. But, what’s the likelihood of that?

None of it adds up. Could it be an abstract warning for an attack not on synagogues, but somewhere else? I’m just not buying the wag the dog scenario. There were too many players here: Saudi intelligence, Dubai, Yemen, and Britain.

I keep reminding myself that AQ has a fetish for returning to the scene of past failed attempts. And Times Square comes to mind - Thanksgiving Day Parade....


93 posted on 10/29/2010 7:52:02 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Benchim
total Joke

Okay, I'm game. Go ahead. I'm listening.

94 posted on 10/29/2010 7:54:02 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: Rutles4Ever; Tiger_eye

“Why would a setup NOT include a power source?”

If there are bulk scanners (CT scanner or the like) with Automated Threat Detection algorithms, they will likely trip on suspicion of explosives if there is a power source.

Bomb people look for a “firing train” and power source as much as they look for explosives themselves.

Ship them here, then add the 9V battery, arm, and deliver. I think you have it right.

No way was this a “dry run”, someone either twigged to it or some scanner caught some. Why in the world risk exposure through a dry run?


95 posted on 10/29/2010 7:54:51 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68
Oh, the report also said they were designed to be triggered by a cell phone or something similar. Would you send a bomb half way around the world that could be accidentally triggered by someone else's random transmission?

I don't know much about explosive devices but that sounds like a flaky thing to do. But if it's missing a power source for the detonator who cares how many radio signals hit it?

96 posted on 10/29/2010 7:55:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
I heard the same as well which is why I was really confused when I read it was “sheer luck” one did not go off.

I am beginning to think the administration is handling this no better than they handled the underwear bomber. It seems the only lesson learned was get obie in front of the camera ASAP.

PR and public perception is top of the list instead of our security. They do not want Obama to take the beating he did Christmas. Not with the election days away.

97 posted on 10/29/2010 7:59:01 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Rutles4Ever
Which is why I surmised the possibility of an intercept. But, what’s the likelihood of that?

Then you have to get into the FedEx and the UPS sorting plants or hi-jack the drivers on the street, take the package and ...

That's about as bad as writing your bank robbery note on your own deposit slip. (that really happened BTW)

98 posted on 10/29/2010 7:59:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: DBrow
Ship them here, then add the 9V battery, arm, and deliver.

Addressed to the target? Unless they have a jihadi inside the Synagogue.

99 posted on 10/29/2010 8:02:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

Yeah, I agree. Someone would have to be in contact with the package between the cargo plane and the sorting plant. Not impossible, but not likely enough to be an explanation.


100 posted on 10/29/2010 8:05:52 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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