Skip to comments.N.C. Judge Rules For Republicans In Voting Machine Foul-Ups
Posted on 10/30/2010 6:59:16 PM PDT by Palmetto PatriotEdited on 10/30/2010 7:31:39 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
A federal judge in North Carolina ruled Saturday that voters must be warned touch-screen voting machines are sensitive and poll workers will need to keep detailed records of complaints about the machines during next week's elections.
The temporary order issued by Judge Malcolm Howard stemmed from a lawsuit filed by the state Republican Party against the State Board of Elections a day earlier.
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That's called "evidence" in legal lingo.
Good for him. Judges don’t like to get mixed up in elections but this is a good ruling. He must be a pretty good lawyer.
This is why electronic voting machines MUST print out your votes and allow you to view them through a window so that you KNOW that your votes are cast correctly. If the votes are not correct, you and the election judge can void it and the votes are electronically subtracted from the total and you vote again.
Our county doesn't use the touch screen machines. We use the ones where you complete the broken line with a black marker and then feed it into a machine when you are done. I don't recall ever having complaints about them in the 15 years I've lived here. Wonder why all of our counties in NC can't have the same machines?
We fill in the oval and feed them into the scanner.
In 08 there was a single touch screen machine there but so few people used it they never brought it back.
Ummm...if there were problems that were fixed then that indeed means there were problems that may happen again. No mention of what caused the problems but, hey, we're supposed to just believe they are gone and couldn't possibly happen again. /sarc
And of course stating (as the Rat SOS in Nevada did too) that there is no evidence whatsoever of any fraud, and the problem with the voting machines was simply due to the Republican voters "brushing" the screen the wrong way.
Yeah. That must be it.
Why not a receipt with a running tally for your vote and all votes cast?
That would end fraud completely, no?
As long as the machines are in service, we’re screwed. They should have been ordered out of service.
The GOP should have tested and inspected every machine well before early voting started. As usual, the GOP is a day late and a dollar short. They are so lame, it’d be funny if it wasn’t so serious.
It is what you can’t see that should worry you.
We fill in the oval and feed them into the scanner.
Same here in Florida.
We use the same method here, works great and I never hear complaints. Don’t know why everyone doesn’t since these electronic machines are too easy to tamper with.
Will this be the election that teaches the public about the risks inherent to computerized voting?
That's great and let shed the light on theses "*cockroaches" to the public....
IIRC, All OK Elections has "paper backup".
*w/ humble apologies to the cockroaches.
Hence the reason for the printout. 10.00 bucks worth of gas comes with a printout, why not an election.
Ahhh....the researchers, they must have had a-lot of practice.....
was this a Union &/ Ivy League funded study?
Finally! The GOP should have reacted sooner.
Here is another project by J. Alex Halderman and Ariel J. Feldman, showing that Sequoia voting machines are just as secure as Diebold machines:
Ladies and gentlemen, let's give a warm welcome to the next President of the United States.
I noticed during the infamous Florida re-counts of 2000, that those counties using optical scanner machines had 0 changes from the original count. We started using them a few years back and I love them. Not only are they accurate, but the ballots are preserved. I don’t trust the entire concept of computerized machines. To easy to corrupt the programming.
Might that be one of the Secretaries of State that have been “installed” through George Soros’ tactical scheme?
Please, those of you who Twitter or are on Facebook, spread this around!
Reporting Voter Fraud
The Republican Party has set up a National Hotline, which will be staffed with Attorneys to handle polling issues as well as possible voter fraud or intimidation.
1 - 888 - 775 - 8117. IF you even SUSPECT this is happening, PLEASE call for their free advice.
Yes, that's what Dems were warning from the start.
Sad that the establishment Republicans are getting hoist by their own petard and having to reverse their position and oppose these rotten things. It would have been nice if they had been on board from the start.
Remember, it was the Republicans who were pushing for the no-paper-record electronic machines. :-(
That’s news to me.
Agreed. It's yet another case where the Establishment Republicans have sold out America by pushing these rotten things.
And they've called conservatives and liberals paranoid for wanting paper backup.
And they knew there were glitches but fought tooth and nail against putting in security measures like those in lottery systems.
Judge Howard’s a good guy. ‘Nam vet if memory serves, and he’s on the FISA Court.
We have the connect the dot and one touch screen (for the disabled —the ones least likely to know the machine messed up) This is the last election for both. New system counts on one machine....printing out a ballot that can be kept as a record and check for the the disabled so everyone will have a paper trail.
Our election board is quite excited/happy about the change. We’ll be using them the first time for city election...to get the kinks out for the presidential election. We have a great tech team. Honest and well thought of gentlemen in our community.
Harry Reid’s Son in Charge of Nevada Voting Machines Used in Fraud.
In 2008 FOX had an expert on voting machines on. He demonstrated how a vote could be for one person in the machine and print out something else.
In otherwards, with the electronic machine, your printout may not mean your vote registered to the person you voted for.
Right, so one of the only reasons to have an electronic voting machine is to print properly-formed ballots.
You can also have a pseudosecret ballot election, where each voter is given a random key, and a receipt with a list of candidates he voted for, and then the key-vote pairs are published and the voter can verify later that his vote was correctly counted.
Judge Malcolm J. Howard was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.
President Reagan is still fighting for freedom.
Uh, you know that that's illegal, right?
As usual, the GOP is a day late and a dollar short.
You know, it's about time for the GOP-bashers to shut their pieholes and start getting on board with beating the Democrats, instead of acting like termites.
Electronic voting machines should be banned. Like any other computer there will always be security issues which make them trivially easy to hack.
Even the dims were against them.
Not sure of their stance now.
If they've figured out how to 'game' them they might want them to stay.
The problem with computer-assisted voting systems was that they centralized the opportunity for fraud. - ES&S vice president Gary Greenhalgh in a NY Times article.
Interesting to note that Greenhalgh got his start in the election business under Ransom Shoup (convicted on felony bribery counts in 1979.) Oh, and Greenhalgh’s employer in 1999 (MicroVote, where he worked as national sales director)sent $130k in bribery payments to an election official in Mecklenburg County.
And take a guess what company’s machines are used in most NC counties.
This was ruled on by a FEDERAL Judge. Does that mean it will apply in Nevada? It should!
Diebold/Chavez, you mean! Those are the machines that Chavez used in Venezuela to steal election after election!
If the French can do it, WE can do it! Paper ballots ONLY!
The unions have pushed for this for a long time. The reasoning... they can compel their membership to show the receipts to confirm they voted as they were directed to do. On balance, this scares me more than electronic voting by providing the tool unions (and potentially others, for that matter) can use to make the secret ballot known.
Remember the New Black Panther thugs with batons standing outside the polling place in 2008? What's to keep them from telling voters entering, "We'll want to see who you voted for on your way out." The harm of that intimidation is beyond any electronic manipulation that is going on.
See post 45. Lots of mischief can happen with paper receipts.
If you can view the printout and verify it, how can it not be for the person you wanted?
It’s about time people stop making excuses for how lame the GOP is when it comes to standing around like witless dorks while the rats run roughshod over us. They, and their worshippers like you, need to lead, follow, or GTF out of the way. So shut your piehole and start holding them accountable instead of bitching out the rest of us who are sick and tired of putting up with their lameazz performance.
Not around here.