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Carville predicts a punchout (GOP Takes House, Senate. Obama out in 2012)
National Post ^ | 11/1/10

Posted on 11/01/2010 10:27:09 AM PDT by earlJam

Mr. Carville, the celebrity strategist behind Bill Clinton’s presidential campaigns, was warning a “hurricane” would descend on Washington on Nov. 1. The only question: Whether it was a minor or a major one.

In Calgary on Friday, for the Teatro Speakers Series, Mr. Carville was more definitive. It would be disastrous.

“It was said of Mike Tyson, he hits you so hard, he changes the way you taste,” Mr. Carville says. For Democrats, “food’s going to taste very different Wednesday morning.” .........

Mr. Carville concedes that he is “more pessimistic than most Democrats” about Tuesday’s mid-term Congressional elections.

He thinks the Senate may go Republican, not just the House, since they’ve always, historically, flipped together. Oh, and he’s not sure Mr. Obama will run in 2012; he doesn’t seem to like the job.

“I hope I’m wrong,” he says of his outlook. Yet he doesn’t seem especially troubled. After all, he believes, it’s not his party’s fault, but larger forces conspiring against them.

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To: andy58-in-nh

Nice touch with the waste basket.


51 posted on 11/01/2010 11:05:25 AM PDT by An Old Man
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To: rightistight
Isn’t Carville the “genius” that predicted Dems would be in power for a generation? What a failure

Like a lot of Democrats, James didn't foresee the absolute "damn the torpedoes" attitude of the Zerobama-Pelosi Axis to implement a far left-wing agenda regardless of the resistance of the electorate.

The thousand year Third Reich didn't work out too well, either.

52 posted on 11/01/2010 11:07:54 AM PDT by Ole Okie (American.)
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To: earlJam

After all, he believes, it’s not his party’s fault, but larger forces conspiring against them.

Expect this to be the meme on Nov 3.

53 posted on 11/01/2010 11:10:05 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: earlJam
Carville predicts a punchout. I so hope to see Serpenthead (or is that Garbagehead) make history repeat itself on national TV tomorrow night ...


54 posted on 11/01/2010 11:11:03 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe baby!)
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To: earlJam

“Mr. Carville says. For Democrats, “food’s going to taste very different Wednesday morning.”

That’s right, no more 5 star meals on the taxpayers’ dime.


55 posted on 11/01/2010 11:11:10 AM PDT by Wee-Weed Up
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To: earlJam

Wonder if the party will change it’s name?.


56 posted on 11/01/2010 11:12:07 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: earlJam

I used to wonder if Obama was deliberately creating chaos and havoc for his party, or if he was really that incompetent. How does a guy go from Messiah to moron in two years?

I’ve come think that this is probably all part of a brilliant, albeit Machiavellian political strategy on Obama’s part. Obama knew he was going to lose control of the Congress in the mid-terms, anyway. So he went for broke while he had the majority, setting the stage for all kinds of confrontations to come.

Despite having bullet-proof majorities, Obama complained whenever his own party bolted and stalled some piece of legislation that the Republicans were obstructionist and “the Party of NO!”

Obama is a lousy president, but he is an absolute genius in the application of class warfare. When the GOP sweeps into power, he’ll have them exactly where he wants them.

They are the ones who will have to make the tough decisions about what social programs to cut.

Two years from now, Obama have most of the country blaming the Republicans for the mess he deliberately caused over the last two years. Newt Gingrich led the GOP to victory in 1994 with his “Contract with America” that ultimately led to a balanced budget five years later.

But TIME Magazine’s cover that Christmas featured a picture of Newt Gingrich under the caption, “The Grinch That Stole Christmas.” In 1994, everybody wrote of Bill Clinton as a one-term president.

The collapse began in the waning hours of the Bush administration, but everything Obama has done since taking office has been aimed at making the situation worse.

That puts the Republicans in the driver’s seat at just the right moment for Obama’s Fed to pull the hyperinflation trigger so that the blame falls on the GOP, oh, sometime around the beginning of 2012.

No matter what happens tomorrow, I wouldn’t count Obama out in 2012 just yet.


57 posted on 11/01/2010 11:13:59 AM PDT by txgirl4Bush (I Support President Bush and Operation Iraqi Freedom)
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To: earlJam

He believes it’s not his party’s fault? Well then, whose fault is it? His party controls 98% of the media. His party knew Obama was illegitimate, ignorant, had zero experience, held decidedly un-American beliefs — yet they chose him as their candidade.

Note to Snakehead: It IS your party’s fault!


58 posted on 11/01/2010 11:14:39 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: earlJam
larger forces conspiring against them.

The going-galt force is a real bitch.

59 posted on 11/01/2010 11:15:37 AM PDT by Reeses (Now is the autumn of our discontent.)
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To: HarleyD

obama isn’t poop by himself. He may be a great campaigner, but he’s all politics and no policy, and even to be a campaigner he needs to be surrounded by competent political people. Many of them have already left. On Wednesday, many more will be plotting their hasty exit, stage left.

I don’t think the dems have to push him out. They are just going to abandon ship.


60 posted on 11/01/2010 11:17:28 AM PDT by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: henkster
They are just going to abandon ship.

They are already doing that........

61 posted on 11/01/2010 11:18:33 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The IRS thinks I'm made of money.............)
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To: rhombus
You did hold your nose and pull the lever for McCain like the rest of us, didn't you? ;-)

The stink was so bad I must have forgot to let go... :(

62 posted on 11/01/2010 11:18:47 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Pro-Life atheist, conservative Bostonian)
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To: IamConservative

LMAO, and I am from DE.


63 posted on 11/01/2010 11:21:43 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Darkwolf377
The stink was so bad I must have forgot to let go... :(

Don't you just love the smell of sulfur and brimstone? Always room for one more. ;-)

64 posted on 11/01/2010 11:22:02 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: condi2008

sniff sniff - that picture makes me so sentimental....


65 posted on 11/01/2010 11:22:09 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd, Medea Benjamin - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: earlJam
I'm not trying to depress turnout because I'd vote over broken glass, but our government and the power that goes with it is a colossal tar baby. I'll take no joy in squashing the Deomonrats as we did in '94 because the baby needs burning and I fear the GOP won't do it. Noooooooo they won't burn the precious.

One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them

I'm actually looking forward to April 15th so that I can tell Washington how much I still hate them.

66 posted on 11/01/2010 11:22:23 AM PDT by Theophilus (Not merely prolife, but prolific!)
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To: nmh

I remember Pat Buchanan laughing when he heard the canard that Obama doesn’t like being president.

Pat said the limos, Marine One, Airforce One, people catering to you left and right becomes irresistable.

I agree and scoff that Obama doesn’t like being king.


67 posted on 11/01/2010 11:22:41 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Retired Greyhound
Unless the GOP nominates a turd candidate in 2012,

Not that they'd (Dole) do anything (McCain) like that!!!

68 posted on 11/01/2010 11:23:43 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: SeeSac

The trash can is at least an improvement...


69 posted on 11/01/2010 11:24:00 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (I Love My Country, but I Hate my Federal Government...)
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To: earlJam

Carville is a loyal Clintonista. These comments just cement for me the notion that Hillary is planning a coup for 2012.


70 posted on 11/01/2010 11:25:12 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Vaquero
i’m thinking carville - remember how furious he was over obummer’s handling - or NON-handling - of the Gulf spill? Also, with his wife, he has to hear some sanity in his own house, like it or not.
71 posted on 11/01/2010 11:26:15 AM PDT by maine-iac7
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To: KarlInOhio
Harry Reid is going to taste like Evander Holyfield's ear.

And hopefully gets spit out much the same way.

72 posted on 11/01/2010 11:27:27 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: earlJam
Testing!

73 posted on 11/01/2010 11:28:56 AM PDT by McGruff (A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs)
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To: earlJam

74 posted on 11/01/2010 11:29:55 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: FarNorth
I think Mary’s conservatism is starting to rub off on him.

I think they've both rubbed off on each other (now that I've typed that came out weirder than intended...but anyway...) in that they're both sorta libertarianish.

75 posted on 11/01/2010 11:31:03 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: earlJam

Yes. This is the Clinton Crime Syndicate versus Obama’s Chicago Mob. HERE COMES HILLARY1

Wasn’t Rahm Emanuel a Clintonista? a senior advisor to Bill? Ya think Rahm can help a little?


76 posted on 11/01/2010 11:35:26 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: txgirl4Bush
How does a guy go from Messiah to moron in two years?

He didn't "go" anywhere. People who looked at the facts dispassionately knew exactly what he was and what would happen if he were elected and thus it came to pass. It's like the teenage girl or young adult woman who "suddenly" realizes that her family and friends were right and that her boyfriend is a creep.

77 posted on 11/01/2010 11:36:39 AM PDT by garbanzo (Government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the problem.)
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To: Iron Munro

I suspect it may be the size of his member that outweighs the physical attraction.


78 posted on 11/01/2010 11:37:14 AM PDT by CARTOUCHE (Election lawyers to the ready!! Let the games begin.)
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To: txgirl4Bush
How does a guy go from Messiah to moron in two years?

Much more plausible when his erstwhile worshippers are back-biting snakeheads.

79 posted on 11/01/2010 11:40:03 AM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists act as though the world is as they wish it to be; conservatives try to improve what exists.)
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To: garbanzo

bingo re the “boyfriend is a creep” comment.

If I had a nickel for every person I tried to warn about this guy going back to Spring of 08...


80 posted on 11/01/2010 11:42:16 AM PDT by Keith (We live in an America of National Socialism...sound familiar? It should...)
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To: HarleyD

Obama will not go quietly. He’s too arrogant and believes he’s doing a great job. If nothing else, he’s the unwanted guest who just hangs around after everyone has left. The Democrats are going to have to push him out-and it won’t be easy”

Sure would be nice if Tuesday’s results would spill over into the Chicago Mayoral race.


81 posted on 11/01/2010 11:49:45 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: earlJam
After all, he believes, it’s not his party’s fault, but larger forces conspiring against them.

IOW, it's all Bush's fault.

82 posted on 11/01/2010 11:51:34 AM PDT by Post Toasties (Leftists act as though the world is as they wish it to be; conservatives try to improve what exists.)
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To: TexasNative2000
He is the one Democrat who is honest about what the polls are saying.

Ofcourse, he than reverts back to his Democrat mindset by saying that the TeaParty will not be able to handle being in power and turn on each other (wixhful thinking on his part)

I believe he is correct about Obama not wanting to run again.

83 posted on 11/01/2010 12:11:07 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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84 posted on 11/01/2010 2:30:38 PM PDT by Liz (Nov 2 will be one more stitch in Obama's political shroud.)
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To: Liz

85 posted on 11/01/2010 3:17:51 PM PDT by txhurl (If we can shake Congress like a can of pennies, we can uproot voter fraud like a D-9.)
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