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BARBER: Republicans must 'hang together'
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/oct/29/republicans-must-hang-together/ ^ | 11-01-10 | Matt Barber

Posted on 11/01/2010 1:45:51 PM PDT by jimluke01

If conventional wisdom holds true and conservative candidates mop up tomorrow as expected, the Republican Party had better have a serious "come to Jesus" meeting, and quick. The party will either return to the tried-and-true principles of unsullied Reagan conservatism, or the new Republican revolution will fizzle faster than you can say "Obama is a socialist."

Ronald Reagan often spoke of a "three-legged stool" that undergirds true conservatism. The legs are represented by a strong defense, strong free-market economic policies and strong social values. For the stool to remain upright, it must be supported by all three legs. If you snap off even one leg, the stool collapses under its own weight.

A Republican, for instance, who is conservative on social and national defense issues but liberal on fiscal issues is not a Reagan conservative. He is a quasi-conservative socialist.

A Republican who is conservative on fiscal and social issues but liberal on national defense issues is not a Reagan conservative. He is a quasi-conservative dove.

By the same token, a Republican who is conservative on fiscal and national defense issues but liberal on social issues - such as abortion, so-called gay rights or the Second Amendment - is not a Reagan conservative. He is a socio-liberal libertarian.

Put another way: A Republican who is one part William F. Buckley Jr., one part Oliver North and one part Rachel Maddow is no true conservative. He is - well, I'm not exactly sure what he is, but it ain't pretty.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: sourcetitlenoturl

1 posted on 11/01/2010 1:45:54 PM PDT by jimluke01
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To: jimluke01

Exactly, exactly, and exactly again!


2 posted on 11/01/2010 1:48:32 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (is a Jim DeMint Republican. You might say he's a funDeMintalist conservative.)
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To: jimluke01

I’m not goimng to look the other way when a republican steps out of line. That’s Nancy Pelosi style swamp draining.


3 posted on 11/01/2010 1:49:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: jimluke01

So called social conservative pro-life democrats voted for Obama’s government funded healthcare.

So called fiscal conservatives\ socially liberal politicians like Arlen Spectre voted for the stimulus.

It seems you have to be conservative all around to keep the integrity.


4 posted on 11/01/2010 1:49:59 PM PDT by MNDude (Ask the Native American's how their "Open Borders" policy worked out for them.)
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To: jimluke01
one part Rachel Maddow...not exactly sure what he is, but it ain't pretty.

A quote I can agree with!

5 posted on 11/01/2010 1:50:46 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Islam is a violent and tyrannical political ideology and has nothing to do with "religion".)
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To: jimluke01

“...one part Rachel Maddow.”

I guess that rules out Lindsey Graham as a conservative.


6 posted on 11/01/2010 1:50:48 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: jimluke01

Another GOP leader defending RINO’s and talking tough at the same time.


7 posted on 11/01/2010 1:51:31 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: jimluke01

Amen. Amen. Amen.

I’ve said this again and again. You can be a libertarian, and share values with conservatives, but if you insist on throwing out the social values, you will wreck the coalition, lose your way, and lose the next election.

Because with freedom comes responsibility. A free society is only possible if a critical mass of people are willing to discipline themselves. Our country cannot survive on the principle of “do whatever you damned well like.” It has to be, “do what you know is right.”


8 posted on 11/01/2010 1:54:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Scripture: The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Pray for the U.S.A.


9 posted on 11/01/2010 1:54:04 PM PDT by i_dont_chat ("The Jihadists are coming!" "The Jihadists are coming!")
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To: jimluke01
This article nails it! Thomas Jefferson's First Inaugural Address laid out the principles his Administration would be guided by. If Republicans win in 2010, they'd better review that Address, dedicate themselves to those principles, and live up to them from day one.

If they do not, 2012 will be a repudiation of them, and the light of liberty in the world may be extinguished.

If America is to regain its leadership role in the world, then "We, the People" must select the kind of leaders who possess and are dedicated to a deep understanding of those ideas essential to liberty.

Some one or two of these Republican candidates who win election, or some other person out there needs to emerge who truly understands the ideas of liberty our Declaration of Independence and Constitution were founded upon.

Further, those persons must have the courage and tenacity to stand upon those principles in the face of Progressivism.

That has happened before.

President Reagan's real strength and authenticity lay in his deep and abiding understanding of the principles and ideas of America's Founders. This meant that somewhere along the line he had studied the writings and underlying documents by which liberty was obtained.

His easily-delivered cautions about limited government were not mere "talking points" or platform-based recitations. Those cautions came out of a mind and heart that were in sync with Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, and the other geniuses who structured the limited government of the U. S. Constitution to protect liberty, and to bar tyrants from oppressing the people.

Reagan's eloquent speeches about a "shining city" were not mere high-sounding rhetoric, they were about deeply-held beliefs, founded in understanding of and devotion to ideas.

While it is admirable for current Republican leaders to quote Reagan, or to claim his philosophy as their own, second-hand embracing of the positions he took is not enough to qualify any candidate to lead America back to "peace, liberty, and safety" (Jefferson's First Inaugural cautions).

No, that candidate must demonstrate his/her own study and understanding of the principles underlying the United States Constitution, and that only can be acquired by study, reflection, and a deep commitment. The threats are so great, they are presented in such subtle ways, and the enemies of freedom are so intent on imposing their own deeply-held counterfeit ideas that a surface belief in what is referred to as "limited government," "tax cuts," "reductions in spending," and "getting government out of our lives," while they may be attention-getting and handy for speeches, will not be sufficient to hold the line in defense of liberty.

Something more is needed. Reagan had it, and any person who wishes to emulate his leadership cannot do it without submitting himself/herself to the same depth of study as Reagan.

When that person emerges who can demonstrate the discipline and dedication to ideas which Reagan did, then the counterfeit ideas of opponents will not be able to prevail in public debate, and America may once again be able to be that "shining city" or "beacon of liberty" for the world. Other nations will again look to America for leadership, not compromise and appeasement.

Has Reagan's Young Americans for Freeedom produced such a candidate somewhere? Has any conservative think tank exposed the Founders' ideas to someone who can now articulate them and demonstrate leadership?

10 posted on 11/01/2010 1:56:45 PM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: jimluke01

What you are most right about is having a “Come to Jesus” meeting, early on. They need to expeditiously have a straw poll between all the new and continuing House republicans, (not the lame ducks who lost) and they need to poll the issues, one by one, to find out who stands where and then caucas accordingly. We are in a hell of a hurry. No nuancing, for Pete’s sake.


11 posted on 11/01/2010 2:00:23 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: jimluke01
The Class of 1994 was warned by Rush, not to fall for the beltway sleaze machine, not to try to be popular by sucking up to the natives of DC. Most of them failed and are no longer anywhere near Congress a scant 16 years later, with a rabid bunch of 'rat-bastards occupying their seats.

George Bush was elected as a "conservative" and virtually his first major act was to invite Ted Kennedy to the White House and then invite him to write the education bill. Bush's "new tone" ended up doubling the Department of Education.

We cannot afford to let these new congressmen wander off the hot-seat and start schmoozing as soon as they get their office furniture ordered. Not this time.

12 posted on 11/01/2010 2:00:32 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: GeronL

Matt Barber isn’t part of the leadership; he’s just a pundit, and he makes good points against those, like Dick Morris, who want to leave social conservatives out of the loop.


13 posted on 11/01/2010 2:01:35 PM PDT by Hunton Peck ( From Angry White Men to Bitter Clinging Slurpee-Sippers -- we've come a long way, baby!)
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To: GeronL
I never heard of Matt Barber before and don't think he's much of a "GOP leader." But he does make sense doesn't he.
14 posted on 11/01/2010 2:03:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

i am sure there will be variations how best to keep the 3 legs strong, but this is exactly right.

i would say fiscal policy and cutting crap out of the budget is #1 and defunding/repealing/battering a close #2, but start smacking the social cons around, see what motivation they have for 2012.

The Country Clubbers MUST understand this. And in any event, no crony capitalism, no too big too fail. Govt needs to make things more transparent and allow for more competition


15 posted on 11/01/2010 2:13:21 PM PDT by Piers-the-Ploughman (Just say no to circular firing squads.)
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To: jimluke01

The Republicans are a classic case of a political party which lost it way when it became Democratic Lite. Let us hope and pray that the newly elected Representatives and Senators quickly choose leaders that favor limiting Federal government intrusion into our lives. Equally important is the get the Government off industries backs so they can start creating jobs. An example, reign in the EPA and permit the oil companies to drill domestically.

If we as a nation send our young men and women into harms way, they should be fully supported. This means that they have the resources and the leadership that permit them to do their job. They should not be asked to fight under Rules of Engagement which will get them killed unnecessarily.


16 posted on 11/01/2010 2:23:57 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Maybe I got him confused with Barbour. heh.

See, I knew I should have read some of the article.


17 posted on 11/01/2010 2:26:03 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Hunton Peck

I should have tried reading the article. lol.


18 posted on 11/01/2010 2:26:46 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: jimluke01

Hey Haley... tell it to rove and the rest of the countryclub elite bluebloods.

LLS


19 posted on 11/01/2010 2:27:36 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: jimluke01
The party will either return to the tried-and-true principles of unsullied Reagan conservatism, or the new Republican revolution will fizzle faster than you can say "Obama is a socialist."

It's less of a Republican revolution and more of an American patriot revolution.

That's what makes it so frightening for both Democrat and Republican politicians.

The Tea Party is made up of a wide cross section of America. And we want our country back!

20 posted on 11/01/2010 2:31:19 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: jimluke01

Haley, y’all hang together with conservatives and y’all will win.

We will help ya!


21 posted on 11/01/2010 2:35:39 PM PDT by dforest
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To: loveliberty2

Well written post. Thanks.


22 posted on 11/01/2010 2:38:28 PM PDT by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: LibLieSlayer; indylindy

This column is by a Barber, not a Barbour! :-)


23 posted on 11/01/2010 2:41:29 PM PDT by Hunton Peck ( From Angry White Men to Bitter Clinging Slurpee-Sippers -- we've come a long way, baby!)
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To: jimluke01
J. Matt Barber appears to be a Christian Conservative from what I can tell from his bio. He is an Associate Dean for Career and Professional Development at Liberty University School of Law.

Interesting guy. In addition to a Law Degree he has an advanced degree in Public Policy and served 12 years in the ARNG and is a former LEO. According to his bio, he is also a former Golden Gloves and undefeated professional boxer.

Link: http://law.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=17261

Also, he is NOT Haley Barbour, the well known GOP leader and present Governor of the State of “Mizz-Sippy.”

24 posted on 11/01/2010 3:38:33 PM PDT by Ozymandias Ghost
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To: jimluke01

BTTT!


25 posted on 11/01/2010 4:53:50 PM PDT by Pagey (B. Hussein Obama has no experience running anything, except his pedestrian mouth.)
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