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China: 'Pakistan is our Israel'
Al-Jazeera ^ | 28 Oct 2010 | Thalif Deen

Posted on 11/01/2010 10:08:14 PM PDT by BlackVeil

When a US delegate once confronted a Chinese diplomat about Beijing's uncompromising support for Pakistan, the Chinese reportedly responded with a heavily-loaded sarcastic remark: "Pakistan is our Israel".

But judging by China's unrelenting support for some of its allies, including North Korea, Burma, Zimbabwe and Sudan, its protective arm around these countries is no different from the US and Western political embrace of Israel - right or wrong.

..."China is trying to reassert its political clout at the United Nations as a counterweight to its defensive stand on currency and trade issues."

The New York Times newspaper said on Tuesday that the US administration is facing a "confrontational relationship" with an assertive China and is trying to respond to "a surge of Chinese triumphalism" by strengthening Washington's relationship with Japan and South Korea.

US President Barack Obama is planning to visit four Asian countries next month - Japan, Indonesia, India and South Korea - while bypassing China.


In recent months, China has prevented a Security Council resolution against North Korea over the sinking of a South Korean ship and also tried to suppress a UN report alleging the use of Chinese-made bullets in attacks on UN peacekeepers in Darfur, Sudan.


Still, China relented to US and Western pressure in supporting four Security Council resolutions imposing sanctions against Iran, ... Justifying his country's support for the resolution, Chinese Ambassador Li Baodong was quoted as saying that Beijing wanted to make sure that sanctions would not affect the Iranian people or its normal overseas trade.

Jakobson said that China agreed to these sanctions after much deliberation and on the condition that the energy sector was excluded.

"This can be seen as a compromise solution on China's part," she said. "The exclusion of the energy sector was crucial."


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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; africa; burma; china; cnpc; darfur; india; indonesia; japan; northkorea; pakistan; republicofkorea; southkorea; sudan; zimbabwe
China's interests in the region are very strong, and they have a border with Afghanistan, as well.
1 posted on 11/01/2010 10:08:18 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil

My answer: “No, North Korea is your Israel; You only get one.”

2 posted on 11/01/2010 10:50:42 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: BlackVeil

That’s a wierd article. The U.S. has been a pretty strong supporter of Pakistan also...

3 posted on 11/01/2010 11:04:15 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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Obama targeted Pakistan as an enemy of his administration early on. If it is an ally of the US, it is an enemy of Mr. Marxist.

5 posted on 11/01/2010 11:14:22 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: dr_lew

So true. I remember learning all about the time we sent a whole bunch of divisions over our border to fight alongside Israel.

6 posted on 11/01/2010 11:15:32 PM PDT by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: Eyes Unclouded

The point remains the same. Pakistan ain’t their Israel - no way, no how. Tell ‘em to stuff it.

7 posted on 11/01/2010 11:30:00 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Pikachu_Dad
The U.S. has been a pretty strong supporter of Pakistan also...

True. It does seem weird. But China is developing interests in central Asia, and has a strong rivalry with India. So, Pakistan becomes a player.

9 posted on 11/01/2010 11:44:55 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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10 posted on 11/02/2010 5:55:31 AM PDT by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Because our current crop of Republi-Con and Demon-crat “leaders” are bought and paid for whores with fat secret bank accounts throughout the Islamic Petro States? To match their Fat “Blind Trusts” here in the US?

Republi-Con and Demon-Crat “Leaders” two sides of the same crooked Coin?

If the Tea Party folks make it to the Congress they have to do a couple administrative things to succeed.

Set the Standard.

1. Eschew “Blind Trusts” publicly.

2. Require all caucus members take a Polygraph bi-annually to assure the public they do not have any secret bank accounts overseas or secret investments.

3. Hire only people from their own Districts and States for all their offices. Local and in Washington DC (Preferably already solvent, Married in a Stable family situation ideally with no children that can be targeted by the bad guys arrested on some phony charge and their fate held hostage to the compromise of the Tea Party Staffer or Elected Official).

4. Request their home community Sheriff’s Department send teams to Washington to right off then periodically sweep and secure their offices and homes to include staff.

5 Keep two persons from their staff physically in all office spaces they occupy once they are secured 24/7 365. (DO your own dusting and taking out of the trash)

6. Have their Local Sheriff’s Department Polygraph all Staff at random (This makes it much easier to avoid bribery attempts much like random urinalysis helped GIs refuse to use drugs getting them for the most part out of the Service.
Sheriffs also need to be tasked to provide security for their staffs to include protecting residences from surreptitious entry when folks are at work.

Encourage staff to live in as close proximity to one another in secured residences.

7 order and issue encrypted phones and hire a retired CEWI Officer or NCO for each of their their Staffs to secure Communications.

8. Have the Sheriff from their District provide protection and look out for the security of both the elected official, staff members and their families so no one can get to them or set them up. (Recognizing the bad guys will target the weakest link, Kids spouses etc to compromise Tea Party Elected Officials and Staff).

9. Demand a current electronic text of all bills and post the most current online.

10. Issue a unique electronic ID to all registered voters from all Partys who request it in their districts and afford them the opportunity to vote their position anonymously and informally online before bills are voted in the House or Senate. Try very hard to adhere to their constituents will.

Much like “The Ent’s are going to War”

Tea Party Elected Officials must realize they are much hated by all of Washington.. Republi-Con and Demon-Crat Elected and Appointed Officials. No doubt Foreign powers and interests, The MSM, Career Staffers (who should never, ever be hired or trusted) and the Lobbyists whose livelihood depends upon the corruption of our elected and appointed Officials.

When the Heritage Foundation wants you to come to their briefings or “Freshmen Orientation” etc.. Tell them to go to he!!. Same for any Tea Party Democrats, If the sacks of crap from the Old Guard will not respectfully and patiently explain verbally and in writing House and Senate rules and procedures.. expose them and castigate them publicly for obstruction and cronyism.

Keep your mouths shut around the MSM Press as much as is humanly possible. They are not friends of Liberty ..ever...Massively use both the Web and franking privileges to speak directly to the folks from all partys back home.

Lots of Lucks Tea Party Elected Officials.

“Where the Spirit of the Lord is.. There is Liberty”


11 posted on 11/02/2010 2:57:26 PM PDT by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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To: BlackVeil
China's “interest” in Pakistan has much more to do with its competition with India for influence in the region than it does with interest in Pakistan on its own.

In this China's “interest” is to HELP Pakistani interests maintain a high anti-Indian stance on issues in the region; fostering support among Pakistan's political class in a 1940s mentality, which India has moved-on from long ago.

It is against CHINA'S interest for Pakistan and India to have a major rapprochement, or enthusiastic confluence of positions.

How does Pakistan's history and its position in the region correlate with the history of Israel and its position in the Middle East. It doesn't. The "Israel" analogy is a purely Chinese invention with no foundation, other than China's own nationalistic interests.

12 posted on 11/03/2010 11:53:31 AM PDT by Wuli
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