LIVE THREAD - North Carolina Results

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[JWinNC]

U.S. House District 2
99% Precincts Reporting

Ellmers (R)
90,860
49%

Etheridge (D)
89,096
49%

Rose (LB)
3,377
2%

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

Something else we can be proud of!

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/politics&id=7761089

[Impy]

Newt Gingrich just said the GOP took the NC legislature.

[saganite]

Ellmers is pulling ahead of Etheridge now. Finally, some good news out of NC. Up by about 2,000 votes.

[saganite]

I checked my county results and there was a lot of ticket splitting. The Republicans ran ahead in every race except the House race and Shuler won in the county. Apparently WNC is happy with Shuler. Personally, I think he ran one of the dirtiest campaigns I’ve seen.

[FreedomProtector]

Kissell won again?? What is wrong with NC?? I am so disgusted.

Is there a lot of voter fraud going on here?

North Carolina may be the most egregiously gerrymandered state. All the democRATs win 55% 45%. The couple of Republicans who win are 75% 25%.

That will soon change. Republicans control the NC state house and senate for the first time in 112 years!!!

This happened all around the country, and this is huge as there is redistricting up and coming due to census.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/252347/historic-gop-gains-state-legislatures-john-hood

• Going into the 2010 elections, Democrats held 60 partisan legislative chambers and Republicans held 36, with a couple of ties.

• It looks like the GOP has picked up an astounding 20 chambers, including both houses in Alabama, Maine, Minnesota, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Wisconsin and additional chambers in Indiana, Iowa, Michigan, Montana, New Hampshire, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.

• In total legislative seats, it is possible that after all the results are posted, Republicans will have won a nationwide majority.

• Republicans haven’t enjoyed this much power in state capitals since the 1920s.

The census is going to help the good guys/gals in 2012 as people have been fleeing leftist states and moving to nice conservative states because of lower taxes, nicer people, more jobs, more liberty, value for human life....

First up, save the Republic from the militant assult on liberty and life!!!!

Next up, Redistricting!!!!!

[FreedomProtector]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/11/03/biggest_gop_gains_in_statehouses_107826.html

Quote from article:

Probably the biggest prize for the GOP was the North Carolina legislature, where Democrats had used convoluted map lines to enshrine Congressional majorities and their own legislative majorities for decades. Unlike most states, North Carolina excludes the governor from the redistricting process. The three conservative Democrats who hung on this year will probably find themselves in much worse seats in the next cycle.

NC 12

North Carolina may be the most egregiously gerrymandered state. NC12 is an example. The democRATs typically win 55% 45%. The couple of Republicans who win are 75% 25%.

The egregiously gerrymandering which has denied the will of the people for a very long time will soon change. Republicans control the NC state house and senate for the first time in 112 years!

[Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!]

I m glad for that but still puzzled at some dems winning where locally they were not polled to..

[AuH2ORepublican]

That drawing is of NC-12 as created backnin 1992; it was struckndown as an unconstitutional racial gerrymander a couple of years later. The current NC-12 does not include any part of Gastonia or Durham.

While the NC Democrat gerrymanders have kept the GOP from winning more seats through the years, the black-majority NC-01 and the black-influence NC-12 actually benefit the GOP by reducing the black population in surrounding districts. Our real enemy are those 20%-30% black districts that allow white “conservative Democrats” to win by getting only 1/3 of the white vote.

The optimal congressional redistricting plan would include three black-majority or black-influence districts (one from Charlotte through black and Native American parts if NC-07 and NC-08 (Lumberton, Fayetteville, etc,); another from black parts of Winston-Salem, High Point and Greensboro to Durham and Chapel Hill; and a third from black parts of Raleigh to the black-majority areas of NC-01. That would leave 10 comfortably GOP districts in the rest of the state (provided that the NC-11 was redrawn so that its white Democrat base was shared with safely Republican NC-05 and NC-10.

[MitchellC]

By the way, there's a Redistricting App. Fun to toy with the different scenarios on it, but I'm not sure what year the population statistics are from.

[AuH2ORepublican]

I’ve seen it, and it kicks a$$, but unfortunately I can’t hover over to other parts of the state (I can only click on the counties on the screen, and can zoom in and out only on the counties in the middle of the screen). Did you have the same problem?

[MitchellC]

Click and drag on the square that says ‘pan.’

[AuH2ORepublican]

Got it, thanks.

[MitchellC]

It seems most of the states don’t have the full statistics for precincts like NC does.

[AuH2ORepublican]

Do they only have 2008 presidential results? I wish they had 2004 pres. results (and maybe some U.S. Senate results as well).

[FreedomProtector]

Another story noting wild North Carolina gerrymandering:

http://www.worldmag.com/webextra/17305

North Carolina, for example, has some of the most gerrymandered districts in the country. Democrats have held power in the legislature for over a century, but Republicans just swept up both chambers. North Carolina’s Democratic Gov. Beverly Perdue cannot veto their redrawn maps, so the newly empowered GOP is poised to make the purple state a shade redder.

Republicans there have said that instead of drawing the districts in their favor, they will be undoing the wild gerrymandering. “I actually feel some pressure to look at the citizens of North Carolina in the eye and not be guilty of the same gerrymandering that we’ve had for the last century,” current House Minority Whip Thom Tillis, who will be seeking the speakership, told the Associated Press. Six states have nonpartisan commissions that oversee redistricting.

[MitchellC]

Some states don’t even have the 2008 results from what I’ve seen - SC only has the population by race. For NC, I’ve used the 2008 results as best case scenario for the Democrats, especially in the Piedmont. Using that, I’ve done scenarios with four 65%+ Dem districts, and the rest 55% R - 45% D or thereabouts. This all requires wild gerrymandering, though, which apparently the NCGOP won’t be trying for.