Posted on 11/10/2010 9:00:55 AM PST by roses of sharon
I certainly expected a more mature response from the readers of this forum.
It reads exactly as one would expect to see on DU, were the president a Republican.
Very disturbing performance, FReeperLand.
Actually what it says is “radar replay of a large area west of Los Angeles did not reveal any fast moving unidentified targets in that area.”
There must be another source for the report that no air traffic flying in from the west at that time.
On the CBS link for this story they show the video to Robert Ellesworth former deputy secretary of defense.....It’s apparent he’s trying to figure out what type of missle it is. He says the Navy should chime in and tell us for sure.
Having seen the video, anyone who thinks this was an aircraft ‘contrail’ is drinking anti-freeze and smoking banana peels. Probably voted for Commander Zero too.
Question about the video. Does it ever show an object rising with the plume being left behind it? Or is it always a long existing plume with the bright object located at the top?
I had thought we had a video of the missile rising from fairly soon after launch. If the 10 minute video shows a plume sitting there then it’s less persuasive.
Nothing I've seen shows any launch or any real climb to speak of. Not only that, but as a poster mentioned earlier, ten minutes of video and that missile would be long gone and out of range.
The video I saw, was much shorter than 10 minutes. It did look like a missile, but illusions are likely in these situations. I did notice that the object seemed to be moving very slowly (for a missile).
FAA says other planes were in the area according to this AFP report from an Australian site:
"The FAA, when they looked at the radar replay for that time period, they went out some distance from the coast, and identified that they had no fast moving unidentified objects in that area at that time.
"They did have commercial airliners in that area. None of those commercial airliners reported anything unusual," he said. "So all of those things point again to the fact that we believe this is an aircraft condensation trail."
11-11...Vetrans Day...Obama out of the country...
Just a bad feeling.
I live south of LAX and west of Long Beach airport, can't see the water but can see the sky above it. Also can see AC in and out of both airports ('though not all AC from LAX).
My observations were/are:
I didn't hang around to catch the sunset because there was nothing to see, no contrails and only a few wispy clouds.
There are always planes visible around here because of the two airports - see above regarding no contrails.
I have never seen an AC contrail similar to the tape in this area but I have seen video of several missile launches that sure did mimic this one.
The taped trail appeared to include slight course or angle of attack changes, not like an approach to LA.
I do note that the cameraman says that he origin 'appeared' to be over the horizon - which does not agree with the distance off shore that is being cited. (You can see Catalina from the local Home Depot)
Boeing operates a sea based launch system out of Long Beach harbor but they don't launch near our coast and certainly don't putt around the Pacific with loaded missiles just waiting to be fired off by accident.
All that said - I don't have a clue what it was but the sky conditions that day make me real skeptical.
It was a missile, I tell ya! It was fired at Flight 800 inbound to Phoenix but it missed! Get the link? TWA 800 >> USAir 808! See the connection! And don't miss the time. Both were in the evening. And the dates. 7/17/1996 >> 11/9/2010! Add the numbers plus the flight numbers, subtract 18 (18=9/2)from the TWA total and you get 2820 for both events! Divide 2820 and you get 313. Day 313 is NOVEMBER 9th!
Hmm. All these experts miss the fact that the bright side of the plume would be away from the viewer if it were a missile launch. The bright side is toward the viewer as it would be when the low sun is reflecting from the bottom of the contrail.
Please ask your expert how the sun from the west makes the EAST side of the plume bright!
The only way for a submarine to track a missile or any other target is to stick something up out of the water and look for it. And once they do that then they can be found by surface or air units and their stealth is lost. Using a sub as an anti-missile platform just makes no sense.
A few years back my husband and I noticed something like this. We expected to hear something about a missile or some other explaination, but apparently the sky having that look wasn’t news that day.
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