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Vanity: Fox News Panelist Liz Trotta Agrees With Karl Rove: Palin's Alaska Is Unpresidential

Posted on 11/13/2010 12:38:19 PM PST by Retired Intelligence Officer

I was appalled at Liz Trotta and 3 other conservative guest panelist (that I couldn't name) on this afternoons Fox newswatch hosted by Jon Scott all agreed that Palins new reality show, Sarah Palin's Alaska on the Discovery Channel was very unpresidential and it would sink her any chances for the White House.

The topic was that liberal advocacy groups were asking for the Discovery Channel to pull the plug on it. The consevative commentator Liz Trotta then said that she agreed with Karl Rove that this was a bad move for Palin. Trotta then goes on to take a pop shot at Palin saying "everytime this woman opens her mouth that her numbers go down". She then said "the more she speaks that she makes people simply not like her". Jon Scott did not ask Trotta why this was just like yesterday when Megyn Kelly didn't ask Meghan McCain why she thought Palin would be best as a reality star.

My question is why is Fox news who hired Sarah Palin allowing conservative guest freely without explanation to back up their facts to trash her and her message in a public forum? Why are they allowing people to tarnish her reputation as well as her new TV program which they advertize during commercial time? Something smells


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To: Tolsti2

Give Rubio six years as senator. He’ll still be young. I live in Florida. He was showing RINO signs down here before he got with the program. He needs to prove he won’t turn RINO while he is in the senate. So let him have some time to prove himself.


251 posted on 11/13/2010 2:36:25 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: surfer

If Palin is unpresidential...then we need to elect an unpresidential person to fill the role.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

I will vote unpresidential wherever possible. Sheesh! The people’s will has been thwarted on issues of the day for over 20 years.

Yep! Definitely time for non-ivy league , unpresidential
in my books. Palin is one but there are several unpresidental possible candidates.

BTW, Rove ticks me off. Who in the hell does he think he is, trying to make us listen to the Dems about who we should select as a presidential candidate?

Rove is passee. Good bye Rove. American conservatives bid you and yours a fond farewell.

The left and the country club REPUBS are scared to death of Palin.She is not of their elite class, and she will be uncontrollable.Just exactly what the people need in an unpresident.


252 posted on 11/13/2010 2:36:41 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Tolsti2
Somehow, she beat the rap. Right?

Yes, all but one charge (which was basically the same as pleading no contest) were dismissed, but you miss the point. The charges consumed Sarah's time and money to the point where some on her staff resigned voluntary. She could not finish her term because of these junk charges.

Did quitting really help?

There you go again, being obtuse. You can call it what you want but it has put Sarah in a much better position than had she stayed on and been bankrupt & politically radioactive.

You also ignore my question I ask you whether or not you would have supported her had she remained in office.

I don’t think it did. If she was in that bad of shape, Bush should’ve quit in 2005 or so.

Bush was President. You can't sue the President.

I refuse to believe that she had to quit or else. At the time that may have been her best option, but for me that wrecked her as well. We all make choices, and that one was costly.

Well, I can't change your mind. But your belief that she's a quitter is simply an uninformed opinion that isn't shared even among beltway types who have praised Sarah for stepping down.

253 posted on 11/13/2010 2:39:26 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Republic of the United States of America)
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To: Retired Intelligence Officer

All that’s good stuff, I wish she’d lay off the media circus and didn’t quit though, no matter how badly it hurt her financially.


254 posted on 11/13/2010 2:39:34 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

You think Sarah Palin is an elitist? When did you arrive from Bizarro world?


255 posted on 11/13/2010 2:40:02 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Agreed.


256 posted on 11/13/2010 2:40:23 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: All
The show is Not on The Discovery Chanel ),,,

It is on Sunday night at 9PM for 8 weeks on “The Learning Channel (TLC)

257 posted on 11/13/2010 2:40:51 PM PST by southphilly
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To: Waryone

I’m tentative on him. IF he proves not to be a rino and IF he’s confirmed as ‘natural born’, he seems like a great guy. My first choice in 08 was Fred Thompson, but by the time the primaries got here he was already done for. We’ll see how it goes next time.


258 posted on 11/13/2010 2:41:05 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

Quitting was her only option in Alaska....she was being bankrupted by Alaska dem’s harrassment lawsuits, and there was not sign they were going to end ‘em.


259 posted on 11/13/2010 2:42:30 PM PST by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

My hunch is that she is just doing her thing and watching to see if she has an opening. She knows full well what the snobs think.


260 posted on 11/13/2010 2:43:29 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Tolsti2

I don’t think that person was being serious. That is putting immense pressure on Sarah to run, like its her or no one else. If she runs I absolutely 100 percent will support her, I will support her if she runs for President, I will support her if she becomes the Secretary of State, and anything else in between. I just think it’s wrong to say that she is not qualified to be President..she is absolutely qualified to be President(if she chooses to pursue it) because Obama has proven in these last two years that you don’t need the expertise to become President. People love to bash Palin even though she has busted her ass to take this country back from the Marxists. These elitist snobs instead of saying thanks trash her, shows what kind of mindset they have


261 posted on 11/13/2010 2:43:29 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

My hunch is that she is just doing her thing and watching to see if she has an opening. She knows full well what the snobs think.


262 posted on 11/13/2010 2:43:39 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

She did quit and she is politically radioactive now. But she’s certainly rich and in the limelight.

These things are not debatable. Her negatives from independents aren’t going to change and she’s very unlikely to win. I think it’s very unlikely to turn around either.

Do I dislike her? Not at ALL. Do I think she’s made bad and potientially fatal politcal moves, yep!


263 posted on 11/13/2010 2:44:04 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: DallasSun

Liz Tratta is an old lion reporter, long with NBC News. As a long time Sarah supporter (since before McCain picked her for VP), I have to say that she is getting a bad bump from posters here today.

In spite of the fact that I disagree with her on Sarah, Liz is right on most of the issues, most of the time.


264 posted on 11/13/2010 2:45:39 PM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: DallasSun

Liz Tratta is an old lion reporter, long with NBC News. As a long time Sarah supporter (since before McCain picked her for VP), I have to say that she is getting a bad bump from posters here today.

In spite of the fact that I disagree with her on Sarah, Liz is right on most of the issues, most of the time.


265 posted on 11/13/2010 2:45:43 PM PST by norge (The amiable dunce is back, wearing a skirt and high heels.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda; LADY J

Were you serious about Palin or bust? I really want to know.

I think she’s disqualified herself through her actions since being governor. I said I’d vote for her if she’s nominated. Would I vote for in the primary? Maybe, it depends on the situation.


266 posted on 11/13/2010 2:46:09 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: chiller

She had NO choice but to resign. It was either resign or end up broke. Imagine going to work everyday and having complaint after complaint on your desk, you can’t do your job right. The a-holes in Alaska and beyond did everything in their power to make her life a living hell in Alaska and instead of taking the bait, she made the right choice. I remember reading her messages every time she got one of those bogus complaints, it was twice a week, how can a person be expected to do their job with all that BS going on


267 posted on 11/13/2010 2:46:19 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Tolsti2

Isn’t that something? The more the elitists and their cronies unmercifully trash her for the pettiest things, the more I want to vote for her. I just can’t wait until 2012.


268 posted on 11/13/2010 2:46:58 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

There you go, acting like she suffered for our sins. That drama talk is painful.


269 posted on 11/13/2010 2:48:08 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

She did NOT disqualify herself because of resigning as Governor. If those bogus ethics complaints her had never been made, she would have never resigned. She would have remained Governor, she already said so. She really had no choice in the matter, it was getting out of hand. One complaint, fine, deal with it, two, even three she can handle, but it was almost everyday, her job as governor was being diminished, which was the progressives whole point, to make her life a living hell


270 posted on 11/13/2010 2:48:32 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Tolsti2

You’re right Obama wasn’t ruling class, he was and is Marxist class. Way to the left of socialist.


271 posted on 11/13/2010 2:49:20 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Waryone
Wasn’t Daniels the one who told social conservatives to get on the back of the bus? Non-starter.

Oh, pooh. Show me the quote, O hyperventilating one.

Give this a watch.

He's a smart, honest guy -- engaging, intelligent....

And he's evidently doing a good job as governor.

272 posted on 11/13/2010 2:49:20 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Tolsti2

Huh, if that is what you got from what I wrote I’m sorry, but your wrong. She is NO saint, no one is. I don’t put anyone on a pedestal


273 posted on 11/13/2010 2:49:25 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Tolsti2; Extremely Extreme Extremist
She did quit and she is politically radioactive now. But she’s certainly rich and in the limelight.

No, she is only politically radioactive now according to:

1. Leftist pundits
2. GOP Elitist/Progressive pundits
3. Potential GOP 2012 POTUS Candidates, their staff and thier surrogates and supporters.

274 posted on 11/13/2010 2:51:00 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Pedastal again. Living hell...

If she went bankrupt, is that the worst thing that could happen in life? You make it sound like she had to decide to leap from the WTC or burn alive inside.

It was a financial move, and possibly a smart one. Politically, bad move.


275 posted on 11/13/2010 2:51:51 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2
There you go, acting like she suffered for our sins. That drama talk is painful.

No,that is just your purposefully distorted and slanderous take on it.

That is not what any of Sarah's supporters on FreeRepublic feel.
276 posted on 11/13/2010 2:52:26 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Tolsti2

Are you really that out of touch? They were not just smearing Palin, they were taking her and the Alaska govt. court where she and the state had to spend money and time defending themselves. Where have you been?


277 posted on 11/13/2010 2:52:26 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Retired Intelligence Officer

I guess she should be a rabble rouser instead. That would cinch it for her.


278 posted on 11/13/2010 2:53:27 PM PST by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Yeah yeah, poor Sarah. I dunno how she can live with only her multimillion TV contracts. Life is so unfair.


279 posted on 11/13/2010 2:53:39 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: Tolsti2

Being in financial ruin is one thing, but not being able to do her job, what’s the point of being Governor if you can’t even govern your own state


280 posted on 11/13/2010 2:53:39 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Let me guess, the media has ruined her image among independents. HERES A NEWS FLASH..the media will do that to ANY candidate we select.

++++++++++++++++++++++++

DING DING DING!!!! We have a winner!!!!

They loved McCain until the race heated up and it was open season on him. The looks on his face were a classic as his “DC beltway media buddies” turned on him and ripped him a new one. At then end, he looked like a bumbling old codger.

Huckster....they’ll call him a bible thumpin hillbilly

Mitten.....a cold, flimsy, money-grubbing technocrat who is a (gasp) Mormon.

T-Paw....WHO??? Milktoast

etc., etc.,


281 posted on 11/13/2010 2:54:08 PM PST by ak267
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To: bgill
It hasn't aired, so how can Liz & Co. give any sort of criticism of it.

Actually, they can give a more unbiased opinion if they don't watch it.

282 posted on 11/13/2010 2:55:32 PM PST by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: SoConPubbie

The drama talk is ridiculous and over the top. I don’t understand this compassion for her suffering when she wasn’t convicted of anything. Sure she got smeared and sued, so what. Don’t run when the heat is on.


283 posted on 11/13/2010 2:56:27 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: ak267

The media will push Romney and Huckabee for all it’s worth, kiss their behind, and Romney and Huckabee will think they are adored by the press, the second either one of them wins, just watch..with Romney, he will be called a hypocrite for being the one that created RomneyCare, “Hey Romney, isn’t that the same as Obamacare, what’s the difference?” with Huckabee, it will be “You let out a man who went on to murder 4 cops in cold blood.” The media are full of leftists, does anyone here really think they give a flying F about the Republican party


284 posted on 11/13/2010 2:56:39 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Tolsti2

You certainly spend a lot of time putting her down here on FR. Since you signed up in 2009 I assume you are one of Soros’ paid anti-Palin shills.


285 posted on 11/13/2010 2:57:36 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Tolsti2
Bankrupted? Was she down to unemployment level money? In danger of losing her house?

Basically yes....that's what she was looking at if she stayed in office. All family resources would have been drained. I know you don't want to hear that....

286 posted on 11/13/2010 2:57:49 PM PST by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: Tolsti2
So we gotta go all in on Palin or we’re done for?

No, just conservatives that care about our Constitutional Republic.

You can continue to support leftists, liberals, RINO's and dems.

Oh, and your President.

We'll overcome all of that, kid.

287 posted on 11/13/2010 2:57:55 PM PST by Syncro (PES ant: Infected with Palin Emasculation Syndrome)
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To: r9etb; se_ohio_young_conservative

Because she’s not ready for the big time, son.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.False. A lie.Border line ignorant.

She ran Alaska, a military force, and directly negotiated foreign porting in Alaska with nations like Japan, Canada, Russia, South Korea and China.She even laid out a treaty with Canada, successfully.BTW, Sarah Palin is highly liked in Japan and China.

Take a look at the size of Alaska. Is almost 1/3 the size of the United States.Palin was Governor of a small nation, not a little state like Rhode Island or the state of Illinois that sponsored the current leftist edition occupying the White House.Alaska is huge, has a huge coastline, a tremedous variety of kinds of people, ,and huge natural resources, is the first line of defence against Western enemies. She did a great job.

Read the facts about Palin’s record as Governor.

You bet this lady is ready, son. And the people are ready to elect her.

And she will be one of the best presidents this nation has ever had.

I have to laugh at you “she’s not ready” people. She is much more ready than George W. Bush was.Dubyah had daddy holding his hand for half his life. Palin is self made, and that counts big time.Obama is not self made, he had the affirmative action hand up, that sure prepared him for office. BUahahahahahahahahahaa!

People who diss Palin had better start garnering the facts about her. One thing she is not is “unprepared”. You will have to hang your hat on another peg, maybe like they will have to take away the nuke codes from her if she has PMS, or some other similar foolish notion as the one YOU have at present.


288 posted on 11/13/2010 2:58:29 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

lol


289 posted on 11/13/2010 2:58:37 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: anita

In some ways, Palin is like the old progressive Democrat William jennings Bryan. The Democratic party of his time was a coalition of urban machines and southern and midwestern farmers, with the urban machine bankrolled by bankers. He had the support of the farmers and the people in the small towns. But in 1912, the Progressives put ip Woodrow Wilson as their candidate.Bryan helped throw the election to Wilson and was named secretary of state. He lasted until 1915, although he was largely circumvented by Wilson, who used his trained dog, House, as his messenger, and resigned when it seemed that the US would go to war after the Lusitania was sunk by a German U-Boot. Thereafter he was marginalized.


290 posted on 11/13/2010 2:58:59 PM PST by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Yes, I was beginning to wonder about him too. Lots of bashing going on.


291 posted on 11/13/2010 2:59:16 PM PST by Cedar
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To: Tolsti2

You can’t disagree that she has been through hell..Forget about the governorship for a moment, from the second she was announced as McCain’s running mate the most nasty, disgusting, outrageous things have been said about her. Even now, check out those liberal nasty blogs, the ones that hope Trig dies, the ones that want Sarah assassinated. She needs 24/7 protection from these loons. I’d call that suffering. Physical suffering, of course not. She has not been physically harmed(Don’t think they haven’t tried, death threats, etc) but she has been emotionally harmed, everyday. If it was just as simple as “Dealing with it” then bullies would have no power now would they


292 posted on 11/13/2010 3:00:17 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: jdub
I love sarah and her politics. But she really needs to tone down the perkiness for more people to take her seriously. She seems to have ratcheted it up here lately.

Love her too, but you are spot on....my only criticism of her since '08.

293 posted on 11/13/2010 3:00:32 PM PST by chiller ( EVERY Democrat on EVERY level must go)
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To: All

psst, hey folks...listen up. Can you hear it??? It’s called free publicity and media buzz. And she’s getting paid for it too!!!! The more people squawk, the more people’s interest is piqued.

What you hear from from the LSM and beltway boys is jelousy.

She’s not playing this for the elites, she’s playing this for the masses.

And if she does run (either in 12 or in the future), SHE will be in charge of the message. NOT McCAIN, NOT Schmitt, NOT Rove, and certainly NOT Pissy Matthews!!!


294 posted on 11/13/2010 3:00:59 PM PST by ak267
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To: Tolsti2; Sarah Barracuda
It was a financial move, and possibly a smart one. Politically, bad move.

You were right on only one of those

1. The lawsuits were taking 80% of her time and her staff's time. She was not able to do her job and her staff were not able to do their job. They could not perform their jobs responsibly. This was the plan of the Democrats and the creeps filing the lawsuits, to keep her bottled-up.
2. Yes, it was a smart move, both financially and politically.
3. It was a brilliant move politically, as the results show, because it allowed her the ability to write a book, resolve her debt, and most importantly, campaign for conservative, Tea-Party backed candidates, most of whom, with her endorsement WON! (18 out of 20 House Members) (7 out of 8 Governors) (an overall almost 70% success rate of her endorsed candidates.)

295 posted on 11/13/2010 3:01:36 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: Retired Intelligence Officer

If she is so unpresidential they should quit talking and worrying about her. It’s pretty funny how infatuated the media seems to be with her every move. They seem to sense something...


296 posted on 11/13/2010 3:01:56 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: pepperdog

She can’t sneeze without the media talking about it. They are obsessed with her, because they know what most of us know, that if she went against Obama she would win


297 posted on 11/13/2010 3:02:49 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Tolsti2
She did quit

Yes, but that's a positive, not a negative. Rather than being stuck in Alaska getting harassed by liberals, she moved to the national stage and has driven both the political debate and the Republican Party.

and she is politically radioactive now.

To who, liberals? Look, she doesn't need nor does she care about what these people think. She has the conservative base locked up all she has to do is convince the squishes. Her daughter being on DWTS, Sarah being on Oprah and now her show, along with her 2 book tours, have helped her tremendously with independents.

But she’s certainly rich and in the limelight.

Of course she cashed in. Both to prepare for a possible run at the Presidency and to secure her family's future. Don't be a hater! But Sarah has never been a wealthy person nor does she come from a wealthy background. In fact she resigned from a job that paid six figures (Alaska Oil & Gas Commission) because of the corruption. What does that tell you?

These things are not debatable. Her negatives from independents aren’t going to change and she’s very unlikely to win. I think it’s very unlikely to turn around either.

I agree she has some work to do with independents and so-called moderates. But independents are followers, bandwagon types. Once they see conservatives rally for Sarah, most of them will join the movement.

Do I dislike her? Not at ALL. Do I think she’s made bad and potientially fatal politcal moves, yep!

What bad moves has she made? Anything from when she was McCain's running mate doesn't count.

298 posted on 11/13/2010 3:02:54 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Republic of the United States of America)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

The attacks on the underaged kids are nasty indeed.

The rest of the stuff, get me a violin.


299 posted on 11/13/2010 3:03:07 PM PST by Tolsti2
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To: norge
Liz Tratta is an old lion reporter, long with NBC News. As a long time Sarah supporter (since before McCain picked her for VP), I have to say that she is getting a bad bump from posters here today.
In spite of the fact that I disagree with her on Sarah, Liz is right on most of the issues, most of the time.

You are absolutely right. Posters here have short memories. Liz Trotta was all over Clinton like white on rice, and has been on "this side of the fence," VERY vocally, many times.

It's going to be a looong two years.

300 posted on 11/13/2010 3:04:24 PM PST by truthkeeper ( Remember in November: VOTE THE BUMS OUT!)
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