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Vanity: Fox News Panelist Liz Trotta Agrees With Karl Rove: Palin's Alaska Is Unpresidential

Posted on 11/13/2010 12:38:19 PM PST by Retired Intelligence Officer

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To: Tolsti2

The group that keeps citing “Reagan 1980” aren’t acknowledging where the playing field is in 2012.

In 1980 this was a predominantly white country with an awful lot of WWII generation people who worked for a living. The Reagan democrats are generally dead and have been replaced with “Loretta” a Hispanic immigrant who makes 70k a year as a teacher in the California public school district.

Today we are an ethnically diverse group with a very large group of people who are dependent on govt benefits or a govt paycheck.

Add in a black candidate in Obama who will bring out the black vote and black inner city vote fraud and you got a situation where Barry will have a BASE percentage of 47 percent. Minimum.

The only way we beat Obama in 2012 is to take 65 to 70 percent of that ten percent in the middle. And that crew wrote off Palin two years ago and thinks she is Tina Fey.


421 posted on 11/13/2010 9:08:02 PM PST by SteveAustin
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To: Tolsti2
"hussein wasn’t exaclty ‘ruling class’ in that regard either. Big deal."

I didn't say he was. You're the one who raised the ruling class issue - regarding Palin.
422 posted on 11/13/2010 9:29:51 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Wow, 420+ posts on a thread about some derogatory comments about Palin made on a talk show. She’s sure a lightning rod. Usually it takes an event like 9/11 or Columbine to generate 420+ posts.


423 posted on 11/13/2010 9:33:58 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Steve_Seattle

I like her, and I don’t like the fact that elites look down on her.


424 posted on 11/13/2010 9:43:08 PM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Kath

I doubt I said Texas would not vote for Perry since it is obvious Texas did re-elect him. Texas also voted for RINO Kay Bailey Hutchinson and elitist John Cornyn.

I did say the TEA Parties would not vote for him though. The TEA Parties are very conservative.

But it is interesting watching Perry as he tries to manipulate things. He had Sarah come down there to help him and he was claiming the other day to be a TEA Party champion. Watching him try to manipulate things is pretty funny. It reminds me of my out going RINO gov. Charlie Crisp.

Crisp is how I realized what a RINO Perry is. When gaytime Charlie first became governor, he tailed Perry and Ahnold of California so much I wondered if he had found two new boyfriends. But when he got back to FL. I realized what he had done. He had picked up tips on how to look like a conservative while governing like a liberal from those two.


425 posted on 11/13/2010 9:47:58 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Retired Intelligence Officer

I want to watch the show to see for myself whether this will help or hurt Palin.


426 posted on 11/14/2010 12:54:33 AM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: hflynn

“I know the country would survive Palin, I’m not sure we will survive Obamao unless he is removed from office before 2012.”

But we may get Obama re-elected in a landslide if the 2012 election turns out to be Palin vs Obama. That’s why we need to know if Palin has what it takes to win.


427 posted on 11/14/2010 12:57:02 AM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: ari-freedom
But we may get Obama re-elected in a landslide if the 2012 election turns out to be Palin vs Obama. That’s why we need to know if Palin has what it takes to win.

Obama re-elected in a landslide? Obama is over. If Palin was to be the nominee she might lose but the opposition will not be Obama.

Politics is a blood sport. The blood in the water is Obama's and the sharks are circling. Start reading Ulsterman and the White-House-Insider. The scandals that will rock this administration for most of the next 2 years are starting to percolate. Containment will likely be impossible.

428 posted on 11/14/2010 1:33:33 AM PST by hflynn (The One has been reduced to The Zero)
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To: hflynn

“Start reading Ulsterman and the White-House-Insider. The scandals that will rock this administration for most of the next 2 years are starting to percolate. Containment will likely be impossible.”

yeah well I also remember Chris Ruddy and how all these scandals would bring down Clinton.


429 posted on 11/14/2010 1:40:55 AM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: ari-freedom
yeah well I also remember Chris Ruddy and how all these scandals would bring down Clinton.

Ruddy never had a White-House-Insider while Bob Woodward and Carl Berstein had at least 1, possibly more. Inside information moves a scandal(s). Obama is going to be savaged in the coming months. The line is already drawn in Washington. The choice for Democrats is going to be The One (Obama) or The Other (The Democratic Party). I think November 2nd clearly showed the Choice is not going to be The One.

Here is a little something from Ulsterman and the White House Insider which strongly indicates how isolated Obama is:

Once again, CLOSELY watch for Pelosi news. Speaker preparing for departure from Congress, but going to burn bridges as she does so – namely all those leading to the White House. Speculation she will assist in clearing way for Congressional investigations against Obama White House in coming year. In effect, Pelosi willing to help take Obama down. Quote from within her office that came back to me as follows, “How that -expletive- idiot ever got elected is beyond me. Well let’s see how he does without me around to carry his -expletive- water.” Pelosi very unhappy receiving directive from WH to not attempt any significant legislation during lame duck session. “Leave a mess for the Republicans.” Pelosi furious over directive as it will further diminish her legacy. I don’t think the lady likes being told what to do…

Also confirmed by two other sources Clinton people have been communicating regularly with Pelosi. Something very big is up w/that. I believe that something involves primary challenge against Obama. I have indicated that possibility to you before – this appears to once again confirm. Divide now between “Obama Democrats” and “Clinton Democrats”. More on this likely to come following Wednesday meeting. Basic question is now this: Do we try and save Obama or save the party? I of course suggest the latter and working to do just that.

One other tidbit but not confirmed. VP Biden has reached out to Clintons as well. Uncertain as to what or why if true

430 posted on 11/14/2010 2:27:04 AM PST by hflynn (The One has been reduced to The Zero)
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To: Col Freeper
As for Daniels, I'd read about him but not actually seen him speak. I actually watched this entire hour-long interview with him.

He's got something .... supposing he could be convinced to run.

431 posted on 11/14/2010 6:17:12 AM PST by r9etb
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To: indylindy
What you said about Steele was a lie. You know darn well Palin and Steele get along fine.

If you check my posts, you will see that I have stated that they get along fine now. What part of "the big picture" don't you understand?

I think it is important to see the history of those that support Palin/TPM now but didn't in the beginning.

Ignore history at your peril.

I am no liar, you are.

LOL, even that is a lie!

Why you lie is obvious.

Please post why or wear the label proudly.

Good night.

Oh, end of discussion, huh?

You have some things to prove if you wish to give credibility to your (false) accusations.

Good morning.

432 posted on 11/14/2010 8:42:55 AM PST by Syncro (PES ant: Infected with Palin Emasculation Syndrome)
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To: surfer

Tokyo Rove’s worst nightmare is that Palin will run for President. I have not been a big Palin fan ever since she cut and run from the Alaska Governorship but I am starting to change my mind. Maybe she wouldn’t be such a bad President after all. Who could be worse than Obomba?


433 posted on 11/14/2010 8:47:21 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
but we can’t appease the media. it would be be wrong in so many ways. we shouldnt let them pick our candidates

You're very right, but the problem is, whether we like it or not, the press has a huge impact on how our candidates are perceived, and with Sarah, it's been more negative than positive. Thank heavens for FOX news which has at least put out mostly positive stories.

434 posted on 11/14/2010 11:28:06 AM PST by mupcat
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To: Syncro

Post #363, Palin supporter doesn’t agree with you(note small font)

post#364, doesn’t agree with you about Steele

I rest my case.

Bye now.


435 posted on 11/14/2010 11:32:25 AM PST by dforest
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To: Kath

“..... I must have missed his announcement to run for President, otherwise why would he have to be presidential??”

The same could, and should, be said for Sarah Palin . . I must have also missed her announcement to run for President, otherwise why would SHE have to be presidential??

However, Rove, like Palin, has been mentioned as perhaps seeking that position, or at the very least seeming to think that he is ALL THAT as well as judge and jury of who is or is not ALL THAT.


436 posted on 11/14/2010 11:34:29 AM PST by Twinkie
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To: indylindy
You should read the whole thread and then you will not be making such a fool out of yourself.

I answered the “small font” post with an answer that sufficed quite well.

LOL, you answered it with “Allowing total fabrication”
but my comments are backed up with statements made by Steele in the past.

Post 364 agrees with me.

LOL you have no case because you don't prove your point.

Hmmm, cut and run.

Come back when you have read the whole thread. Maybe you can gain some credibility when you realize that what I posted makes perfect sense.

437 posted on 11/14/2010 12:20:31 PM PST by Syncro (It's The Big Picture...PAY ATTENTION!)
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To: Syncro

Go ahead and think you won.

But you didn’t. I am satisfied.

What you said was not true.


438 posted on 11/14/2010 12:22:56 PM PST by dforest
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To: indylindy
It's not about who wins or who loses.

The facts are the winners, and they substantiate my statements.

I am not in a contest with you.

The facts bear out what I stated throughout this thread.

You being “satisfied” just proves you are not interested in facts, and are indeed quite shallow.

I do not like being called a liar when the proof shows that you are lying.

But being called a liar by you only shows you up for who you are.

Your refusal to read the thread and admit you are a false accuser show a lot about you. I asked you for proof that I lied, you could show none.

I have proof of what I posted (as you very well know) but you show you have no interest in the truth.

Here's a clue:

I know Steele now supports Palin, in the past he got a lot of digs in about her.

You would know that if you read the whole thread with an open mind.

Thanks for playing!

439 posted on 11/14/2010 12:39:26 PM PST by Syncro (It's The Big Picture...PAY ATTENTION!)
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To: Syncro

I hate when someone hasn’t the ability to just say they are wrong. That’s okay, though, because the truth was flushed out.

Now, I have had enough of your baloney. I’d rather watch football.


440 posted on 11/14/2010 1:28:57 PM PST by dforest
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