Skip to comments.Mystery Missiles - Why Are We Stuck on Stupid?
Posted on 11/13/2010 1:42:55 PM PST by FARS
The video below suggests the mystery missile launch was the USA showing Asia/China and Russia our ability to launch Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles (ICBM) from a submarine while OBAMBI is in Asia!
Since when has there been ANY doubt we have the capability to do this? That the USA has submarine launch ability to hit China or to hit Russia!
The first, a Pacific launch was 35 miles off Southern California and headed on a North-East - across America trajectory.
The second, shortly after that, was a first ever Atlantic launch and reportedly went up above New York.
(Excerpt) Read more at antimullah.com ...
...and "it lit up the sky" CBS is...
I can report that it didn’t impact with my house, so all is well.
Thanks for the link. I’m not sure how he is positive he saw the exact same thing, since he was not 35 miles out at sea (at least I assume he does not drive 53 miles out at sea).
He is only able to see much of reality in the abstract, it's all just a big computer game for him.
They have.. there was, the very next day.
Atmospheric conditions have to be correct to make the contrails.. To make it look like a missile, you have to have the sun at just the right angle.
Contrail “Science”, written by an anonymous blogger named “Unicorn”? What kind of scientist is “Unicorn”?
I thought the same thing when I saw that story. Coincidence? I doubt it.
Apparently a rather contemplative, logical one!
Well.. the helicopter that filmed it was pretty much in the same place he was.
He’s a LONG time Freeper... I’ve conversed with him before.
I believe him.
Seeing it LIVE gives a much better perspective than all these photos... even videos.
If you just want to be afrain about something... read about QE2. That’s ACRUALLY happening.
In case you're not kidding...
The most interesting thing to me actually, is the number of people who want everyone to just shut up and stop talking about it. I don’t know what it was and am not even qualified to speculation. However, I’m amazed at the number of FReepers who feel qualified to say the know for a fact iit was an airplane contrail and that those who think otherwise are nuts and moonbats. Heck even Dr. Michio Kaku, while he believes it was probably a contrail, would not say for certain it wasn’t a missile.
Link? and who was the FReeper. I need to see what he said.
yeah and what freeper what was his sign up date ?Danny h doesn’t count
“One senior retired Air Force General “
Who and link, please.
How do you even know “Unicorn” is a scientist?
Airliners do reflect the sunlight very well. You'll notice that in the first part of the video there is no "flame" visible. The "flame" only shows up later when the sky color has deepened to orange and the angle of the sun would have been better for reflecting off the undersides of big aluminium tubes.
ping to post 49
The missle launch has been basically proven to be a jet. (by a blogger?)
1 the contrail did not disperse as a rocket would have (the video was pretty short, how do you know how fast it dispersed?)
2 the flame from a rocket motor would have been much brighter. (It was 30+ miles away and well in to flight. You can see the rocket motor as it heads away from the camera)
3 any large missle shows up big time on radar. (probably, unless someone wants you to believe nothing happened)
4 only the usa has ever bult a curise missile with stealth. Rockets with current material science cant be stealthy.(It was seen by a traffic helicopter, stealth was not its mission)
5 an aviation enthusiast has already figure out the plane. (I am an aviation enthusiast and I say it was an SLBM).
I heard Obama bombed over there...
Only if you trust the so-called “expertise” of a bird photographer, an anonymous blogger named “Unicorn” who runs an anonymous pseudoscience blog and the liberals who run Snopes
The black ops under Dhimmicrat adminstration seems to have more than there fair share of these aberations.....Flight 800 was a missle and OKC/Murrah had a middle eastern connection but everyone was shut up and nothing was ever done about it....and the public are treated like children.
I’m not afraid, as I said, I don’t know what it was, and basically don’t have much of an opinion. I’m concerned about FReepers telling each other they are crazy and to shut up because they disagree about something. I’m concerned when FReepers use the same tactics they decry in liberals, that is marginalize people by making fun of them. It looked like a missile to me, but as I said, I’ve never seen a real missile launch (altho I did get some really cool photos of a night shuttle launch from Delray Beach last year) so my opinion means zip.
Until new information presents itself, there really is nothing else to say. Let me know when some eyewitnesses from the boats in the area come forward.
I am so tired of this idiocy. But obviously not tired enough to quit responding to it.
Repeat after me: Airplane contrail.
The homogeneity of the contrail argues against an airplane.
The atmosphere is rarely moist enought throughout its depth to display such a thick and uninterrupted contrail. (Former Meteorologist here folks)
Further, an aircraft contrail doesn’t produce such a thick single plume as is indicated by the video. This is so obviously a missile plume that the airplane theory has to laughed off the page.
The question remains: Who and Why?
Where, btw, a better fit than flight808 is being put forward....UPS902 Hawaii to Ontario
I agree with what you said.
#7 It was way too slow moving to be a missle. In the amount of time it was on video a missle would have been to orbital velocity and impacting the target. This thing hangs in the sky - just like an airplane cruising at altitude parallel to the earth’s surface would.
Chinook. Apart from being a lifter, the Chinook is also (according to the UK Royal Navy) *the* best dipping sonar/ASW platform there is. So in a scramble to find a hiding diesel sub, it would be a natural.
I don't know...don't really care...he/she makes sense & used logical/scientific arguments. I am not playing the "I see your scientist and raise you one "scientist" game...(or "Janes expert" or ???). Bring physics, optics & contrail facts not so-called "experts".
If you are tired, you should take a nap. Shall I get you a pillow?
Google EMP. Your house would still be there in that case , too. But not much would be well.
By your statement, it is plainly obvious that you stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
That shows how the shadow of the contrail happens, the contrail shadow photo is in post 49. A vertical missle contrail would not leave a shadow.
It’s basic high school physics.
exactly - but apparently some really are stuck on stupid
Who was that?
Russia's Medvedev hails "comrade" Obama
Associated Foreign Press (AFP) ^ | April 2, 2009 | Anna Smolchenko
"Russia's Dmitry Medvedev hailed Barack Obama as "my new comrade" Thursday after their first face-to-face talks"
April 1, 2009:
"Obama, Medvedev pledge new era of relations":
President Obama and Venezuela dictator Hugo
Chavez at the 2009 Summit of the Americas in Trinidad.
Note the "soul bro" handshake. (my caption)
Obama, Chavez shake hands at Americas Summit:
From the Russian News and Information Agency:
July 27, 2006
"'I am determined to expand relations with Russia,' Chavez, known as an outspoken critic of what he calls the United States' unilateralism, told the Russian leader, adding that his determination stemmed from their shared vision of the global order.":
We are creating a new world, a balanced world. A new world order, a multipolar world, Chavez told reporters during a visit to Communist China, one of many. His new world order includes [RUSSIA], China, Iran,... and a significantly weakened United States, he explained.
Resurgent Communism in Latin America
by Alex Newman, March 16, 2010:
From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."
The conclusion is ~ (1) Missiles are launched on a schedule, (2) It was an airplane, or (3) This was the same Blue UFO previously seen hovering over the Satellite Service headquarters near Centreville VA?
It would be interesting to see a comprehensive list of “experts” who say:
I don’t have time to do it, but maybe “Unicorn” could do it. He/she/it appears to have a lot of free time.
If it is flight 808 then it is travelling at a constant altitude, 37000'.
The perception of change in altitude is due to the increase in azimuth as it approaches the observer.
I haven't seen the flight plan of UPS902 yet.
Probable push-back answer would be specific weather conditions but as you suggest very logically why has that particular set of weather conditions never appeared before?
Or fairly often?
Making this event reasonably familiar over the years and raising no eyebrows.
No, but thanks. You know what I'd like? I'd like you to read this site aloud as a bedtime story.
At first, I thought a NK show of force was unlikely, but then, so was our Jimmy Doolittle raid over Tokyo. The incredible can be done.
Yes, I can easily say that could be an airplane. I really cannot accept anyone insisting this was a missile, unless they are a missile expert. I don’t think anyone else has a basis to get all worked up about it.
As for the aged former under secretary of defense, I think he was glad someone asked him a question.
You didn’t look. Look tomorrow. Or Monday, or someother day, same time, same place ~ this one happens recurringly.
That would really put me to sleep! Pretty pictures tho. :) Thanks. Don’t you have something more fun, like time travel or something?
It was a live interview on Fox News. I don’t keep track of those. Still most probably available if you do a search for yourself on Fox videos or You Tube on Nov 9th or the next day. Listen for yourself. I was astonished at how sure he was.