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Amid airport anger, GOP takes aim at screening (AIRPORTS CAN OPT OUT FROM TSA)
Washington Examiner ^ | 11/15/2010 | Byron York

Posted on 11/16/2010 7:42:04 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: Celtic Cross

My opinion?

If one arrives nude, then that should eliminate the “pat down” right? Unless they want to break out the gloves and lube, then prepare for assaults to take place.


41 posted on 11/16/2010 8:18:02 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Massachusetts: like sh*t, it happens.)
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To: qwertypie

You have that completely backwards. Passengers fighting back REDUCE the chance of a successful use of the plane as a missile, as we saw on 911. Screening makes it HARDER for the passengers to fight back against terrorists. The security theater we have now is not only pointless, expensive, infuriating, abusive, and time consuming. It’s dangerous, because it makes it HARDER FOR THE PASSENGERS AND PILOTS AND AIRCREW TO FIGHT BACK.


42 posted on 11/16/2010 8:19:15 AM PST by Jubal Harshaw
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To: 84rules

Yup, and that is why we should be using the Israeli method of airline security instead of this idiotic, intrusive, humiliating system the obamorons have concocted in order to not hurt the feelings of muslims. To be fair, Bush wouldn’t profile either.


43 posted on 11/16/2010 8:19:18 AM PST by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: Vigilanteman

I’m trying to find the actual stats—it seems TSA is a popular gig for former soldiers. I know there are a few at our airport, one is a retired Col, another a Marine, don’t know his rank.

Thus, far I’m not having any luck finding any stats on this.


44 posted on 11/16/2010 8:19:30 AM PST by jazminerose (o)
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To: Responsibility2nd
It began hiring what it called behavior detection officers, who would be trained to notice passengers who acted suspiciously.

Last year, I was pulled aside by this bunch. I guess it was because I was sweaty. Imagine that, I had just carried two forty-pound duffle bags from the train to baggage check-in - in June. Can't imagine why I would be sweating.

45 posted on 11/16/2010 8:20:13 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: qwertypie

Then if this will have no effect on ending PC, I guess it’s either get raped at the airport or find another mode of transport.

What else is there to do?


46 posted on 11/16/2010 8:20:59 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Massachusetts: like sh*t, it happens.)
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To: jazminerose
Not if their unionized. Remember Argenbright?

The airlines won't be contracting with individual employees - they will be contracting with companies - which are pretty easy to fire if one of their unionized employees' screws up.

47 posted on 11/16/2010 8:30:03 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Wolfie

“Does Friedman have a plan for those of us who don’t want a hi-jacked airliner from one of these low-cost, low-security airports killing us or our love ones? Or would we get coupons for future flights?”

No, this is such an absurd statement. Of course Mr. Freidman would not have wanted hi-jackers killing our loved ones. The fact of the matter is that random groin checks or other similar procedures used by the TSA waste money and resources while not improving security one iota. If we want to improve security, we must focus on results by examining the efficacy of procedures with the best available outcomes analyses. There must always be a cost and benefit analysis. Good intentions w/o a vigorous analysis of the results is simply unacceptable and reflect sloppy thinking; something Freidman would vigorously oppose.


48 posted on 11/16/2010 8:30:27 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: GOPsterinMA

First of all, stop all over-the-top talk like “rape.” End all hyperbole like “nude scanner.” Both are untruthful and voters see right through it, and will abandon anyone who speaks to them in those terms.

Liberals were abandoned by independents because their anti-Diebold, anti-Blackwater mania mentality carried over into their other rhetoric, if not policies. Joe Miller lost because of one silly incident that gave rank-and-file Alaskans pause about his stability - he would have won comfortably otherwise. Sharron Angle lost because of similar concerns, due to her willingness to spout off on trivialities far divorced from core tea party economic principles.

This fringe stuff is going to bite back hard. Old bulls in Washington are probably LTAO about this distraction.


49 posted on 11/16/2010 8:31:10 AM PST by qwertypie
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To: vbmoneyspender

SF contracts with a unionized company.


50 posted on 11/16/2010 8:31:43 AM PST by jazminerose (o)
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To: Don Corleone

Not true. All personnel & delivery vehicles are screened. At least at my local airport they are. You just aren’t supposed to see it.


51 posted on 11/16/2010 8:32:59 AM PST by jazminerose (o)
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To: Vigilanteman

If you believe what TSA claims, 25% of their agents are ex military.


52 posted on 11/16/2010 8:33:48 AM PST by jazminerose (o)
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To: Joe Bfstplk
Perhaps all should fly in the nude.

I think this attire is most appropriate for daytime airport security theater performances.

One size fits all


53 posted on 11/16/2010 8:37:42 AM PST by grasshopper2
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To: Responsibility2nd

If that isn’t profiling, I don’t know what is!


54 posted on 11/16/2010 8:37:42 AM PST by quintr
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To: Wolfie

You would get to choose the level and type of security that you want on your flight, and are willing to pay for. If you are cheap, then you take more risk.


55 posted on 11/16/2010 8:37:42 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Jubal Harshaw

So explain to me: how are airline passengers going to “fight back” once a terrorist (a recruited one who doesn’t have dark skin, a record, or a funny accent) sets off an unscreened butt bomb, and while the plane is disintegrating?


56 posted on 11/16/2010 8:40:44 AM PST by qwertypie
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To: Wolfie

“Does Friedman have a plan “

No. he figured we were intellgent enough to make our own plans, or face the consequences. That is the essence of Milton Friedman. He didn’t think that even he was able to plan for the rest of us.


57 posted on 11/16/2010 8:44:06 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: qwertypie
Mark. His. Words. And. Be. A. Fellow. Human. Kewpie. Doll.

... Beloved by all who want to see your naked glory and humiliate you while you are in the course of your normal travels.

58 posted on 11/16/2010 8:44:33 AM PST by bvw
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To: Wolfie

The only way to keep terrorists from attacking an airport is to not have airports.

Security measures can be deterrants, but are not protective, especially if you are only looking for what has already been done. When is the last time they tried something again?

You can set up cameras to monitor your house, but they dont stop thieves from coming in. You can build a fence, but it doesnt stop tunnels from being dug. You can lock the deadbolt, but it doesnt stop a window from being broken.


59 posted on 11/16/2010 8:44:33 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Daveinyork

Who says that insecure flights are going to be cheaper?

Where are you going to get suicidal pilots to fly for the same salary as present-day pilots? You gonna fly it yourself?


60 posted on 11/16/2010 8:45:08 AM PST by qwertypie
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