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Almost arrested for refusing the TSA pat-down.
Mike Evers

Posted on 11/17/2010 11:22:37 AM PST by Mike Evers

Very unpleasant experience today with TSA employees on a mission from God to conduct full body pat-downs whenever they could. You’ve heard about it. You’ve seen it on television. Well, it actually happened to me this morning and I almost went to jail over it.

I was attempting to fly out of Sarasota, Florida to Atlanta, Georgia today. I cleared security and got out to my gate only to discover the flight was delayed for another hour and a half. So I exited the boarding area and went to one of the restaurants in the main terminal. When I attempted to go back through security I was detained and told to sit in a Plexiglas cubical. I was now separated from my carry-on bag, my shoes, wallet, cell phone, watch and belt. Eventually a TSA employee entered and began to describe the procedures he was going to use to pat-down my entire body. I declined, and said I wanted to go back through the scanner. After all, I had cleared it earlier in the morning, and there was nothing new on my person. Perhaps it was just a misreading.

Well, they would have none of that. A very pompous little supervisor came over and asked me if I wanted to fly today. I informed him that was my intention. Otherwise, why would I be in his little plexiglass cubical. I told him I did not wish to submit to the full body pat-down because I believe it is unwarranted and potentially an unconstitutional invasion of my right to privacy—you know, the privacy right the Supreme Court says is in the Constitution even though there are no such words to that effect. Not persuaded by my argument, the supervisor told me to submit or he would have me arrested. I asked what law I was allegedly violating. He said refusal to submit to federal authority. I replied that I thought there were less intrusive alternatives. He said “No,” and once again demanded that I submit. I declined, so he brought over his superior and three Sheriff’s deputies. Now it was getting interesting.

So much time was taken up with all this nonsense that I missed my flight. When I informed them that I wished to leave the screening area so I could see about another flight I was advised that I was not allowed to leave. Now that I had tripped into their briar patch I either submitted to their search or face arrest. I contemplated the arrest scenario in earnest. When I was in law school 30 years ago, I don’t recall things being like this. Certainly there have been some changes, especially after 9-11, but full body pat-downs and groping of genitalia? When did all this come about Janet Napolitano? Last week? Well, I don’t think it will be around six months from now, so enjoy it while you can.

Facing certain arrest if I refused to submit to their police tactics, I agreed to the search and was led to a private cubical with frosted glass to keep things a bit more private. A Sheriff’s deputy stood inside because I said I did not wish to be without witnesses should the TSA employee get a bit too frisky while feeling every inch of my body, and I do mean “every inch!” Ladies, you are going to love this new procedure when you get singled out for “special” treatment. And guys, you are not going to like it one bit. No happy ending!

Naturally, the extraordinary feel-down didn’t produce anything explosive, or otherwise. Nevertheless, I was informed that the contents of my carry-on bag needed to be searched. Once again, I protested, informing them that it had already passed through screening on the x-ray conveyor belt. Well, now things were different. Now that I was getting the “special” treatment, the entire contents of my bag were laid out on the table for all to see. About 13 local and federal agents gathered around for this little training exercise, or as our beloved President Obama would call it, a “teachable moment.” Fortunately, I wasn’t carrying any sexy lingerie or other items that could cause one to blush. And the extra look-through didn’t produce anything explosive or dangerous, even though I mentioned that my house key could be used to poke out someone’s eye. They failed to see the humor in that observation and stuffed my belongings back into the bag and escorted me out of the screening area and into the ticketing terminal. I got booked on a late afternoon flight, rented a car for three hours ($18 is a lot cheaper than a taxi), and came home to catch on some work before returning to the brave new world of TSA dominance.

As a Million Miler with Delta, I have a little bit of experience with this whole flying thing. I was flying long before 9-11 brought about all this beefed up security and intrusiveness. I’ve faced plenty of airport security issues about the decade, had valuable items stolen from my checked bags by TSA employees, and now this arrogant display of unbridled assault and battery on my body, all in the name of protecting the American public. I publish this missive and add my voice to the growing tide of rebellion over this unprecedented intrusion against our personal freedom.

Now, it’s time to head back to the airport and pray that there has been a shift change in the screening area. If not, please come visit me wherever they decide to lock me up.


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To: Mike Evers

I’m going to tell them I don’t feel comfortable being touched by a guy and request someone of the opposite sex.

Or I may ask if the guy touching me is gay. He’ll probably say he doesn’t have to answer that, but isn’t that my right to know if I am submitting to an illegal groping?


51 posted on 11/17/2010 11:43:14 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Lazamataz

What if EVERYONE refuses? Will they arrest entire passenger lists for not complying? We could shut this crap down in a nanosecond if everyone was on the same page.


52 posted on 11/17/2010 11:43:24 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Mike Evers

The refusal to submit to Fedral authority appears to me to be the “cattle-car clause”.

If it is part of the USC, it needs to be deleted. This is really dangerous.


53 posted on 11/17/2010 11:44:14 AM PST by texmexis best
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To: donna
. . . Obama uses to instigate the disruptions that lead to the destruction of our country.

You mean you think we can't take the metrosexual-in-chief?
54 posted on 11/17/2010 11:44:54 AM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: driftdiver

I was considering dressing up as a muslim and carrying an quoran. They won’t dare violate my rights and profile me, so it’s probably safer to dress like the enemy while going to the Airport.


55 posted on 11/17/2010 11:45:23 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Mike Evers

Thanks for telling your story. The airlines are going to go out of business if this thing doesn’t change.


56 posted on 11/17/2010 11:45:44 AM PST by McGruff (A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs)
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To: pillut48

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57 posted on 11/17/2010 11:46:07 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Reagan69

I AM a lawyer!


58 posted on 11/17/2010 11:46:48 AM PST by Mike Evers
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To: Mike Evers

You, a mere mortal, DARED to question their authority! As I said earlier, this is really about training us to submit to their authority.

Liberalism is really another name for fascism.


59 posted on 11/17/2010 11:46:52 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: Grunthor

You know, it would be funny if someone had the nerve, when they go between the legs, if someone would urinate on their hand. I know it’s gross but...

Some woman called in to Hannity’s show this week and threatened to strap a Di*do under her skirt.

There must be something that can be done to ‘reward’ their digusting, groping hands.


60 posted on 11/17/2010 11:46:52 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (No Compromise!)
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To: SpaceBar

Unfortunately most will submit. I know I will have to submit. I have a security clearance and don’t want to lose it when traveling for the government.

If flying on my personal time I would definitely refuse.

We need a real rosa parks moment.


61 posted on 11/17/2010 11:47:03 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: pillut48

Just sent a letter to Delta that they lost four flights this coming year. They need to get lobbying.


62 posted on 11/17/2010 11:47:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: Paladin2

I like it! Something along the lines of ‘blow me’ .....

;)


63 posted on 11/17/2010 11:47:28 AM PST by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Mike Evers
The first mistake was leaving the secured area. That just gives TSA another shot at you. The person checking ID/boarding passes may have remembered you or you ID’ed your self by casual conversation as a re-enter. That just makes it more likely for a secondary screening episode. The TSA may be pure lard inside but have 12” of armor plate up front. They are well equipped for a direct confrontation.

I am not saying what the TSA is doing is right or the Napoleon wannabe supervisor handled the situation well. Its just that they are low on the food chain along a attitude to match and are doing what they are told.

Their reflex reaction is always up the ante and to involve a LEO as muscle.

64 posted on 11/17/2010 11:47:57 AM PST by Polynikes (Haakkaa Paalle)
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To: relictele

I can imagine it.

Barack Obama and Janet Napelitano would tell their agents to stop it because illegals can do whatever they want in the United States while they go out of their way to limit the rights of American citizens.

This is the nature of the evil liberal beast in all its forms.


65 posted on 11/17/2010 11:48:06 AM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Paladin2

ROFLOL!!


66 posted on 11/17/2010 11:48:06 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Outlaw Woman

I was considering putting on a strap on :-) or as someone in another thread suggested...wear a kilt without underwear.
And to kick it up a notch...throw a liberal amount of KY or Vaseline on the hangdown :-)


67 posted on 11/17/2010 11:48:39 AM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: relictele

NO CONTROLLING LEGAL AUTHORITY !!!


68 posted on 11/17/2010 11:48:49 AM PST by Hoodat ( Don't touch my junk, Bro !)
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To: for-q-clinton

And the reason dressing as a muslim and carrying a koran would work is because some balsy muslims before you stood up to the system. The right needs to learn a few lessons about real social hand-to-hand combat from the left.


69 posted on 11/17/2010 11:48:49 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Mike Evers
I AM a lawyer!

Well if even YOU guys are intimidated, we are finished.

I thought you guys salivate at the chance to nail an egregious violator of Constitutional liberties?

Or is the Constitution that far-gone already?

70 posted on 11/17/2010 11:49:15 AM PST by Lazamataz (Pelosi: Like a rapist, PROUD of their handiwork.)
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To: Mike Evers; All

I wonder what would have happened if after declining the pat down search if you instead offered to drop your drawers and raise your shirt for a visual inspection instead of the groping? You know at my age it is a way of getting even, what has been seen can not be unseen, they would have to live with that image for the rest of their lives!


71 posted on 11/17/2010 11:49:34 AM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: Never on my watch
I am of the call a lawyer opinion, but it seems they separated him from his phone.

So the thug claimed he was about to commit some 'crime' for not allowing himself to be sexually assaulted. At the very least, when being accused of this, it would be best your attorney is involved and speaks for you to the "authorities" rather then you attempt to handle it on your own. Maybe you should refuse to speak with them until they contact your attorney for you if your phone isn't handy. If they treat you like a common criminal then they need to deal with your attorney, not you.

72 posted on 11/17/2010 11:49:40 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: for-q-clinton
I’m going to tell them I don’t feel comfortable being touched by a guy and request someone of the opposite sex.

And ask for clean gloves and a doctor to perform the "examination".

73 posted on 11/17/2010 11:50:06 AM PST by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: PERKY2004

Hope they bought you dinner & flowers.


74 posted on 11/17/2010 11:50:36 AM PST by sleddogs
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To: radpolis

The disparity between these searches and the treatment of illegals by the federal government is simply stunning.


75 posted on 11/17/2010 11:51:18 AM PST by texmexis best
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To: Mike Evers

I wonder how we have survived for so long (during the Bush Adm) without having to be molested at the airport before boarding?

Maybe if the TSA (Obama Adm) figured out who the real enemy is normal citizens would go about our daily lives without this crap!


76 posted on 11/17/2010 11:51:24 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Mike Evers; All

I wonder what would have happened if after declining the pat down search if you instead offered to drop your drawers and raise your shirt for a visual inspection instead of the groping? You know at my age it is a way of getting even, what has been seen can not be unseen, they would have to live with that image for the rest of their lives!


77 posted on 11/17/2010 11:51:41 AM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: for-q-clinton
We need a real rosa parks moment.

We had it with the 'don't touch my junk' man. He was escorted from the airport and the TSA director in LA says the TSA is going to 'probe' him further and said he is liable for a fine exceeding $10,000.

78 posted on 11/17/2010 11:52:05 AM PST by Never on my watch (Touch my junk and I call the cops!)
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To: for-q-clinton

Great ideas. lol


79 posted on 11/17/2010 11:52:44 AM PST by Outlaw Woman (No Compromise!)
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To: Reagan69

When you sue the Feds, the Feds have to agree to be sued. It makes that a bit tougher.


80 posted on 11/17/2010 11:52:50 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Mike Evers
Facing certain arrest if I refused to submit to their police tactics, I agreed to the search and was led to a private cubical with frosted glass to keep things a bit more private

I may be faced with a similar decision soon. I'll take arrest and continue to resist and we'll see what happens.

81 posted on 11/17/2010 11:52:50 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Mike Evers

82 posted on 11/17/2010 11:53:07 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: Mike Evers

Hubby found a unique way to get through the TSA screening fairly quickly. This week he is escorting his mom’s cremated remains back home to have them interred next to his dad’s. He was also taking a set of decorative spurs as a gift to a collegue. So, the young TSA female agent was giving him some grief about the spurs, took them out of the box to inspect them, questioned him about their purpose, etc. Finally got through with that, Hubby slides over the box with my MIL’s remains in it, the TSA agent says, “I’m going to have to look in that, too. What do you have in there?”

Hubby says, “My Mom.”

He says the look on her face was priceless, and she could not get the box through the screening fast enough. She practically refused to touch it. He laughed all the way to the plane.


83 posted on 11/17/2010 11:53:55 AM PST by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Mike Evers

My question is: Why did you submit to search and not allow the arrest which you would have beaten in open court. You had violated no law by refusing to submit to an unlawful search and seizure.


84 posted on 11/17/2010 11:55:01 AM PST by calex59
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To: Paladin2
Or wear this:


85 posted on 11/17/2010 11:56:04 AM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: Esther Ruth
Revelation 13:16-18 (New International Version) 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 This calls for wisdom. Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man.[a] That number is 666.

I'm just sayin'...
86 posted on 11/17/2010 11:56:37 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Mike Evers

Pictured above is an excellent alternative to the TSA Pat Downs and Death by Xray at airports.

Outside the terminal, place hundreds of these new bomb/IED proof booths. Notice there is even a unit to accommodate people in wheel chairs.

All passengers and their luggage must enter one of these Perfect Solution booths. If they are carrying any explosives on them or in their luggage, the booths will detonate the explosives. That will eliminate any terrorist with a bomb and open up seats on the airlines during holidays and other high use days. The units can be self cleansing after each use like the French Porta Potties.

This will also eliminate any bs about profiling, as everyone with a ticket will have to enter and pass or go boom/ByeBye.

Female terrorists can remain in their Burkas until the divine moment, and Islamofascist terrorists will not have to run crying to CAIR and our crybaby AG to complain about profiling and racism. They can even bring their prayer rugs into the booths.

After a few weeks, the TSA can be dismantled, saving billions. Boy and Girl Scouts can escort the approved passengers to their terminals.

87 posted on 11/17/2010 11:56:43 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Paladin2

wouldn’t zinc oxide work as well?


88 posted on 11/17/2010 11:56:55 AM PST by antivenom (OBASTARD must become a "Half Term President" * Impeach the anti-Constitution Bastard!)
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To: relictele
Can you imagine the response of La Raza, ACLU et al if a Border Patrol agent said the words “Submit to Federal Authority!”

Can you imagine the response if the Bush Administration had dared try to implement this perversion?!

89 posted on 11/17/2010 11:57:10 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: Mike Evers

What happens if one has to “break wind” while one iw being felt up”


90 posted on 11/17/2010 11:57:10 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: McGruff

“The airlines are going to go out of business if this thing doesn’t change.”

That’s the plan.


91 posted on 11/17/2010 11:57:24 AM PST by mowowie
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To: I see my hands

92 posted on 11/17/2010 11:57:43 AM PST by kcvl
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To: tgusa

Or, “What, no reach around?”


93 posted on 11/17/2010 11:58:02 AM PST by Grunthor (Touch my junk and I’ll knock you the f**k out)
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To: antivenom

Good question. I don’t know.


94 posted on 11/17/2010 11:58:18 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: for-q-clinton

hey man, haven’t run into you in a while.

I’ve been traveling every week for the last 8. Not once have I seen someone in muslim garb selected for search. Each time they are waved thru while grandpa gets the glove.

So you may be on to something.


96 posted on 11/17/2010 11:59:45 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: jazminerose
Not all airports have the scanners—yet. Could be helpful when trip planning to know which do.

I thought about that --- but they could still have you submit to the intrusive full body feel up/down even if the new scanners are not in place

Believe me, I'm trying to decide whether to change my daughter's flight to an airport without the full-body scanners, but that doesn't mean that they won't do the full-feel up/down

I am feeling full-force rage at this illegal affront.

97 posted on 11/17/2010 11:59:59 AM PST by coder2
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To: Paladin2
"I have a severe allergy to latex it will send me into shock, if you must do this it has to be with bare skin, you will need to wash your hands before touching me as you were wearing latex gloves, oh by the way I am having a flare up of genital warts so have at it sunshine....."
98 posted on 11/17/2010 12:00:30 PM PST by sniper63 (I am the leader of the TEA Party, I, myself am the leader of me, myself for I am the TEA Party!)
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To: Paladin2
You don't even need to get Barium Sufate. Some pennies glued on pieces of children's construction paper in the appropriate pattern would suffice. Make sure the message is broken up between several pieces of paper so as to make it harder for the TSA claim you were sending them obscene messages. If your lucky the X-ray operator would fall over laughing.
100 posted on 11/17/2010 12:01:28 PM PST by Polynikes (Haakkaa Paalle)
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