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Iran Claims itís Got its Own S-300, Really Guys?
Defense Tech ^ | 11/18/2010 | Defense tech

Posted on 11/18/2010 2:16:15 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

Well, only a few months after Russia decided not to sell the advanced S-300 surface to air missile system to Iran, spinsters in Tehran are touting a homegrown version of that very missile.

From the AP:

Iran has successfully tested a newly developed air defense missile system during the country’s biggest ever air defense drill, the country’s military announced Thursday.

Iran’s state television said the test was Tehran’s response to Moscow’s refusal to deliver the advanced Russian S-300 air defense system amid U.N. and international sanctions on the country.

Gen. Hamid Arjangi, a spokesman for the five-day exercise, said the system — known as Mersad, or Ambush in Farsi — and Shahin, or Hawk, were developed by Iranian scientists and is capable of identifying and hitting targets at low and medium altitudes.

The article goes on to say:

The locally developed missiles were similar to the anti-aircraft missile system that Russia has refused to deliver, citing the latest round of U.N. sanctions imposed in response to Tehran’s nuclear program.

“The Iranian-made missile system is an upgraded version of the anti-aircraft Russian S-200 missile system and has the same capability as that of the Russian S-300 missile,” the television reported.

So this means Tehran is already “mass producing” a SAM comparable to the ones it was desperate to buy from Russia until the Kremlin nixed the deal last summer (much to the relief of certain Western air force planners). Right.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airdefense; armstrade; iran; missiledefense; russia; s300

1 posted on 11/18/2010 2:16:19 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; Mr. Mojo; James C. Bennett; mowowie; Captain Beyond; darkwing104; JRios1968; ...

Ping


2 posted on 11/18/2010 2:28:29 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
It's got big rims and a system too.


3 posted on 11/18/2010 2:29:23 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

I think that stands for stuxnet 300,000 infections. Pretty sure thats what they got.


4 posted on 11/18/2010 2:41:40 PM PST by steel_resolve (E)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

It’s really 300 bottle rockets strapped to a coffee can.


5 posted on 11/18/2010 2:43:07 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Israel might bring us the biggest Christmas present of all this year.

How much longer can they take the goading from IRAN & the Nutjob?

Just think- Carter could have taken care of this problem in 1979. The coward didn’t. I am convinced that Nutjob was the leader of the Iranian rebels who took our embassy people hostage.


6 posted on 11/18/2010 2:57:37 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Of course they have. Like with the last missile, they got a great deal on Airfix plastic kits.

They’re now looking for some cheap glue.


7 posted on 11/18/2010 3:53:15 PM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
“The Iranian-made missile system is an upgraded version of the anti-aircraft Russian S-200 missile system and has the same capability as that of the Russian S-300 missile,” the television reported.

That statement is foolish and unbelievable. The S-200 started life in the early 1960s. The S-300 in the late 1990s. You mean to tell me the Iranians were able to leapfrog 30+ years of missile development in a few months? (since the S-300 deal went sour)

Never mind the obvious computer and radar system advancements...consider propellant chemistry and composition advances, metallurgy advances (motor casings), materials science advances (rocket motor throat), etc. etc.

The S-300 is a very different system than the S-200. It's not like hot-rodding a car for better performance. You basically have to start over from scratch. That's not so good. Unless they have had a very extensive testing program they are prone to making all the same mistakes we (anyone who has developed high performance missiles) have made. They're also likely to have made a lot of mistakes in the command and control, radar software, etc. (just like us). There is a definite learning curve to "getting it right" and getting it right the first time on a home-grown system is very, very unlikely.

8 posted on 11/18/2010 5:34:08 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Ping.

Lemme guess, it is the Paykan of missile systems.


9 posted on 11/18/2010 6:09:57 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Probably just a cover story for when the real S-300 missiles being secretly supplied by the Russians are discovered by Israeli intelligence.


10 posted on 11/18/2010 6:13:28 PM PST by Captain Rhino (¬ďSi vis pacem, para bellum¬Ē - if you want peace, prepare for war.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

FYI; S-200 is known by its NATO name of SA-5 “Griffon


11 posted on 11/18/2010 8:21:00 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ThunderSleeps

In fact S-300 is a mid’70s design. Still too much a challenge for a nation like Iran is.


12 posted on 11/24/2010 12:05:00 AM PST by cunning_fish
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