Skip to comments.Sarah Palin's Mike Huckabee problem
Posted on 11/23/2010 8:14:30 AM PST by onyx
1. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said Monday that Sarah Palin might well "run away" with the Republican nomination for president.
It's funny Huckabee should say such a thing, because he's got a lot of say over whether she does just that. And it has to do with whether he even runs in the first place.
As potential 2012 candidates weigh their prospects and determine their plans for the next presidential race, one thing is clear: that Huckabee and Palin inhabit largely the same space -- i.e. they each would perform well without the other, but they might undercut each other if they are in the same race.
There is currently a four-candidate top-tier consisting of Palin, Huckabee, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich. And indeed, a new Quinnipiac University poll on Monday showed the four of them all huddled between 15 and 19 percent of the vote.
But while Huckabee and Gingrich have pretty broad support, the base of support for Huckabee and Palin is readily apparent, and for both of them, it starts with born-again evangelicals. The two of them combine for 46 percent of that vote, compared to just 26 percent for Gingrich and Romney. Palin and Huckabee are also the top two vote-getters among women and people without college degrees.
So why is that important? Because if any of the four frontrunners seems least likely to run for president, it would be Huckabee. And, if he doesn't take the plunge, where is his 26 percent share of evangelicals going to go? Where is his 18 percent share of women going? Who gets his 17 percent share of those without college degrees?
The obvious answer to all three of those questions is Palin.
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Well said, my friend!
So what exactly is Mike’s Sarah Palin problem? That he’ll relapse from his diet and try to eat Trig?
I don’t doubt you at all, which is why I consider the righteous right to be as dangerous to freedom as the loony left.
It seems there is a concerted effort to push Huckabee out of the race. But if it is true that Huckabee and Palin “occupy the same space”, maybe Palin supporters realise that slash-and-burn isn’t the best tactic against Huckabee, so they are trying the carrot-and-stick approach instead.
But the goal is the same, to tear down one way or another every other candidate, in the hopes that voters will go with the one that is left least damaged, rather than rebel against the lack of choices.
I’m wondering if a few of the announced non-candidates are actually playing the game of hiding in the corner hoping to be the “reconciliation” candidate after the frontrunners burn down the house.
People who know nothing about Christianity or Christians think Huckaphony can be used to stop Sarah and then be discarded as Mitt rides to the rescue.
“Seriously these dim bulbs (some in my own family) want a preacher.”
Ask them if Moses ought to have jettisoned all that Exodus stuff and run for Pharaoh, or Jesus just skipped that Gethsemane and Golgotha business and just gone to Rome. That usually clogs the works, sometimes to good effect if they see the absurdity of their position.
LOL. Put like that, it’s funny...LOL>
Yeah, he talks like a conservative but he's got a track record in Arkansas of governing as a socialist. Plus there's the pardon thing you can guarantee they'll be plastering everywhere once the MSM gets him the nomination.
Theres a bible verse about women not having authority over men and while I believe that is directed at the leadership of the church, some evangelicals believe it translates to leadership of the country as well.
There is also a chapter about Deborah, assuming they read the Old Testament at all.
Good Lord, those men need to get some P.T. in their body!!
Correct. He would be the Judas goat which gives us Mitt in 2012, just as he was the Judas goat who gave us McCain in 2008.
Unfortunately, I wouldn't put it past him.
I won’t let the MEDIA dictate our canidate. I would vote for Palin...I won’t vote for Huckabee except I would vote for him to remain at FOX news...
I’m missing something here. Why all the Huckabee hate? I mean, yeah, Sarah Palin is a great candidate, but why bash Huckabee because of it?
Are there political platforms that Huckabee holds that need to be shot down? Has Huckabee done something morally repugnant that he should be rejected for?
Does the media not understand they are transparent?
Agreed. Some sort of White Horse ‘prophetic’ aspect to contend with as well.
The Huckster is just showing his true colors again.
Never a doubt.
Well the one good thing is Huck and Mitt hate each other. I’m not buying that Huck is going to conspire with Mitt to take out Palin. The other way around is more likely. I would never vote for Huck in a primary and he is a lot of things, but an establishment elitist is not one of them.
It is so weird. They have forgiven him his transgressions (he was just demonstrating his Christian love! He is not responsible for the sin of man...I think they blame the devil)
I’m going to try the Moses and ‘Jesus to Rome’ tack. I gotta find something...
I don’t get that reasoning about 2008, the only guy that could be mad at Huckabee for 2008 would be Mitt Romney.
You are right, of course. But it’s not so much a conspiracy...the establishment is USING him.
Stroking his ego big time. Just watch for all the positive articles and press he is going to start receiving.
Well said, my friend!
Do a search on his granting clemency... his raising taxes... his nepotism... his lying... his socialism...
Better yet, look down my About Page for all the ammo you need to get the message out about the Huckster.
Huck himself is obviously playing along.
I'm also not 100% sure that Huck's hatred for Mitt is anything more than show business. They have far more in common than most of their respective fan bases would care to admit.
No, seriously...I’m half-Arkie, but if God meant Mike to be president, He wouldn’t have set him down in Hope, nine years after Bill Clinton. Bubba has poisoned that well for the rest of Mike’s life.
And then he’s had two clemency moves go lethally wrong on him, and it’s still two years to the election. If Sarah Palin’s record makes her unelectable in a general election, I have trouble seeing how Mike makes it out of the primary.
Bible believing Christians know that there is no such thing as a “Christian homosexual”. That same logic applies to a “Christian socialist”. A socialist is nothing but a patient communist. They are both bent on replacing God in society with government.
Exactly. This punditry and establishment GOP did not get November’s message: BUTT OUT.
The more those two groups try to push candidates, the more those candidates will be rejected “before” the campaigns even start!
No problem. I am reluctant to repeat any variant account because the exact facts are murky, although the incident is not denied.
Very abnormal, and very disturbing in any rendition though.
Oh, wow. You’ve done a lot of research on Huckabee.
Please see OB1kNOb’s forum page: scroll down until you see the information on Huckabee.
Split the vote enough in the base, and the Mittster walks through the door McCain went through.
Look at our new Michigan squish/RINO governor. We had three excellent conservatives running, and this guy was the benefactor of splitting their votes .
I don’t know. He seems to think he’s better known and oh so popular.
That’s the truth, tndarlin. Those two couldn’t beat McCain, but they both think they’re ‘the one’ this next time around. The lust for power... makes me sick. Both are non-starters.
Thank you! Some of the links no longer work, but it will be a good resource. I appreciate it!
Glad to be of service.
Right, Huckabee is delighted to play along. He’s smitten, in fact. All the attention and flattering words have gone to his head. This morning on Fox ‘n Friends, he was sickening to watch.
You peaked my interest in Iowa elections on the evangelical Christians and are spot on:
From a USA Today 2008 article:
Long-shot Republican candidate Mike Huckabee declared “a new day in American politics” Thursday after riding strong support from evangelical Christians into a decisive victory in the Iowa caucuses.
Huckabee, an ordained Baptist minister and, like Bill Clinton, a native of Hope, Ark., managed to win despite trailing badly in national polls for most of the year. He out-hustled runner-up Mitt Romney and better-known candidates John McCain, Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani with a coalition of pastors, home schooling adherents, gun rights advocates and supporters of a new national tax system...
Susan Geddes, a former Huckabee volunteer who became coordinator for a 14-county area, cited turnout from “social conservatives” who also liked his positions on protecting the border and keeping taxes low. “He’s been consistent for all the years he’s been a public servant,” added Geddes, a home-school teacher who caucused at a church in Martensdale...
Iowa Republican presidential caucus, 2008
Candidate Votes Percentage
Mike Huckabee 40,841 34.41%
Mitt Romney 29,949 25.23%
Fred Thompson 15,904 13.40%
John McCain 15,559 13.11%
Ron Paul 11,817 9.96%
Rudy Giuliani 4,097 3.45%
Duncan Hunter 524 0.44%
Alan Keyes 247 0.08%
Tom Tancredo 5 0.00%
Thank you! Just frustrated that the media keeps pushing RINO’s. Really I am just sick of the whole mess. After the election, I thought something would change...all it really did was show the true colors of the elites in DC.
“There is currently a four-candidate top-tier consisting of Palin, Huckabee, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich.”
If those are the only four choices, I choose Sarah. Hopefully there will be a few more choices out there.
I think Sarah would have to choose someone more (Romney) to her left in order to moderate the ticket or someone viewed by the party (higher ups) as more of a serious (Demint) intellect.
Yep. Last time we had nothing but moderates to pick from. This time they want to load up with moderates whom they’ll all say are arch-conservatives, so as to try to split the Palin vote. Mitt or Mitch will stand alone as the moderate ‘adult’ positioned between Obama and the far-right fire eaters.