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Why Unhappy People Become Liberals (. . . and why liberalism makes them even unhappier)
Dennis Prager ^ | 11/24/2010 | Dennis Prager

Posted on 11/24/2010 6:38:37 AM PST by WebFocus

According to polls — Pew Research Center, the National Science Foundation — and studies such as Arthur Brooks’s Gross National Happiness, conservative Americans are happier than liberal Americans.

Liberals respond this way: “If we’re unhappier, it’s because we are more upset than conservatives over the plight of those less fortunate than ourselves.”

But common sense and data suggest other explanations.

For one thing, conservatives on the same socioeconomic level as liberals give more charity and volunteer more time than do liberals. And as regards the suffering of non-Americans, for at least half a century conservatives have been far more willing to sacrifice American treasure and American blood (often their own) for other nations’ liberty.

Both of these facts refute the liberals-are-more-concerned-about-others explanation for liberal unhappiness.

So, let’s look at other explanations.

Perhaps we are posing the question backwards when we ask why liberals are less happy than conservatives. The question implies that liberalism causes unhappiness. And while this is true, it may be equally correct to say that unhappy people are more likely to adopt leftist positions.

Take black Americans, for example. It makes perfect sense that a black American who is essentially happy is going to be less attracted to the Left. Anyone who has interacted with black conservatives rarely encounters an angry, unhappy person.

Why?

Because the liberal view on race is that America is a racist society. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, a black American must abandon liberalism in order to be a happy individual. It is very hard, if not impossible, to be a happy person while believing that society is out to hurt you. So, the unhappy black person will gravitate to liberalism and liberalism will in turn make him more unhappy by reinforcing his view that he is a victim.

The unhappy gravitate toward the Left for a second reason. Life is hard for liberals and life is hard for conservatives. But conservatives assume that life will always be hard. Liberals, on the other hand, have utopian dreams. At his brother Robert’s funeral, the late Sen. Edward M. Kennedy recalled his brother saying: “Some men see things as they are and say, ‘Why?’ I dream things that never were and say, ‘Why not?’”

Utopians will always be less happy than those who know that suffering is inherent to human existence. The utopian compares America to utopia and finds it terribly wanting. The conservative compares America to every other civilization that has ever existed and walks around wondering how he got so lucky as to be born or naturalized an American.

Third, imagine two Americans living in essentially identical socioeconomic conditions. They earn $45,000 a year, they have the same amount of debt on their homes, and both have the same number of dependents. One seeks governmental assistance wherever possible; the other eschews any governmental help. Which one is likely to be the liberal and which one is likely to be the happier individual?

This is not a question only an oracle can answer. The one who yearns for governmental help is the one who is likely to be both liberal and less happy. Conservatism, which demands self-reliance, makes one happier. The more a man or woman feels like captain of his or her ship (as poor as that ship may be), the happier he or she will be.

A fourth explanation for greater unhappiness among liberals is that the more people allow feelings to govern them, the less happy they will be. And the further left one goes, the more importance one attaches to feelings.

It is liberal educators and liberal parents who have clamored for protecting young people from the pain of losing games. The liberal world came up with the idea of giving trophies to kids who lose; they don’t want their children feeling bad. Conservatives, on the other hand, teach their kids how to lose well. They are less worried about their children feeling bad.

A couple of years ago, I gave a speech on happiness to the students and faculty of a prestigious high school in the Los Angeles area. The subject was the need to act happy even when one isn’t feeling happy — because it is unfair to others to inflict our bad moods on them and because we will never be happy if we allow our feelings to dictate our happiness.

From what I experienced that day and learned later, liberal students and faculty generally loathed my speech; conservative students generally loved it (there were no conservative faculty to speak of). Why? Because conservatives are far more likely to be comfortable with the idea that feelings are not as important as behavior.

Those who know that feelings must not govern us, but that we must govern our feelings, are far more likely to be happy people.

The upshot of all this? There is an amazingly simple way to defeat the Left: Raise children who are grateful to be American, who don’t complain, who can handle losing, and who are guided by values, not feelings. In other words, teach them how to be happy adults.

— Dennis Prager is a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host and columnist


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1 posted on 11/24/2010 6:38:42 AM PST by WebFocus
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To: WebFocus

Conservatives believe in GOD.
Liberals believe in Santa Claus.


2 posted on 11/24/2010 6:44:32 AM PST by mirkwood (Palin-Bolton 2012)
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To: WebFocus

Great article. I think he’s right.


3 posted on 11/24/2010 6:47:14 AM PST by November 2010
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To: mirkwood

RE: Liberals believe in Santa Claus.


Also, Santa Claus = Government

One big difference — Santa Claus GIVES. Government TAKES.


4 posted on 11/24/2010 6:48:31 AM PST by WebFocus
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To: WebFocus

Why Unhappy People Become Liberals.Some people just flat out love pity.


5 posted on 11/24/2010 6:49:22 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: WebFocus

Great article, thanks for posting it.

Sometimes I can take the shorthand the liberalism is a mental disorder, but that groups a lot of people in who probably shouldn’t be. A lot of liberals haven’t thought very deeply about their positions, but is seems to be nearly a passive outlook of “Who would be against the government helping poor people? That sounds like a good thing to me...” or “I don’t know...why can’t healthcare be free? Shouldn’t everyone get free healthcare?”

It is the committed liberals, the ones who have labored hard and long to build their own “logical underpinnings” to their viewpoints. They never stop to check their intial premises, and build a huge castle on the foundation of a flawed premise.

Cognitive dissonance is a common malady amongst committed liberals, and I have always thought it is because many of them ARE indeed intelligent, and there is still a part of their primitive hindbrain that operates below their subconscious, constantly and continually sending subtle signals to their conscious brain that they are wrong. Their filters to their conscious brains are set up to ward those warning messages off, but I think it is like a continuous, erosive Chinese water torture that gives them ulcers, bilious personalities and a constant state of unhappiness.


6 posted on 11/24/2010 6:51:22 AM PST by rlmorel (TSA's new motto: "You don't get on, Until we get off.")
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To: mirkwood

I, too, think happiness is linked with belief in God and the afterlife.

One of the reasons the left has become so hateful and unhinged is because of the rise of the atheist movement.


7 posted on 11/24/2010 6:52:34 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Vaduz

I think that is a factor for many of them.


8 posted on 11/24/2010 6:54:27 AM PST by rlmorel (We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves. (Rush Limbaugh))
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To: rlmorel

I also notice this -— YOUNG KIDS, those who are most susceptible to influence, tend to be liberal from high school to a few years after graduating from college ( I’d say a majority ).

I would attribute this to the overwhelmingly left-wing mindset of their high school teachers ( most of them union members ) and their college professors ( most of whom vote Democrat ).

The moment they start holding down a job, have a family and then take on the responsibility of having to raise their kids and pay taxes... they begin to realize the burdensome encroachment of the government....they also begin to realize that without the church, the traditional morality that they themselves repudiated when they were in college, they cannot discipline their kids.

Slowly, but surely, the sensible ones become more conservative.


9 posted on 11/24/2010 6:56:04 AM PST by WebFocus
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To: miss marmelstein

Agreed.

This should be a very good thread.


10 posted on 11/24/2010 6:56:53 AM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: WebFocus

With God’s grace, my children will never fall into that trap, even at a young age.
We’re teaching them from a biblical worldview and how to defend that worldview,
as well as starting at a young age to be a master of their emotions, not the other way around.

There was a book/seminar out some time ago called “Self-discipline and emotional control”. I have found the techniques and rational explanations in this material to be quite useful, especially when (re)taught through a biblical lens.


11 posted on 11/24/2010 6:59:08 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: WebFocus

I try to be patient with many younger people. The old saw “If you a young person and aren’t a liberal, you have no heart...if you are an older person and you aren’t conservative, you have no brain” does have some validity.

My whole life I was as conservative as a kid could be. I remember the 1968 election and being completely on board for Richard Nixon (okay, I know he is no conservative, but...you get the idea)

But even still...I DO remember as a college student (and this was after I served four years in the navy) taking a sociology course, and thinking it was the most amazing thing, gushing over a book like “Walden II” (those of you who may have read it will know EXACTLY what I mean)

It was only a few years later, I came to realize it was all liberal, socialist, statist claptrap. But I was caught up in it, me who had traveled around the world by age 21, a conservative, etc.

What you said in your paragraph about holding a job is so true.


12 posted on 11/24/2010 7:03:35 AM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: WebFocus

I notice a lot of people who have worked in industries that are noted for low-pay and rough working conditions (retail, local radio, etc.) tend to become Liberals. They develop a deep-seated hatred for “greedy” bosses, and an overwhelming consumption with seeing them “punished”.


13 posted on 11/24/2010 7:20:12 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Right. It is how tyrannies are fostered...they have people (unions) egging them on.

Nobody gives a rat’s patootie that when you get rid of the bosses, and you destroy the profit motive, who is going to run the company? “Oh! The PEOPLE will run the factory!”

Then it is “Hello Soviet Union”...


14 posted on 11/24/2010 7:23:57 AM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: miss marmelstein
I, too, think happiness is linked with belief in God and the afterlife. One of the reasons the left has become so hateful and unhinged is because of the rise of the atheist movement

BINGO! We have a winner. It all does thread back to G*d. If you have the worldview and belief system that after a some painful illness you will become wormfood and cease to exist then our nature will cause us to react in a negative way and display traits not very Chris like(Hate, treachery, selfishness, murder, callousness, self love). I know alot of liberals are New Age and Eastern Mystic types, but those belief system ultimately consist of essentially the same thing, you will die and eventually lose your identity and soul and fall into some endless sleep. It's our nature to be rebellious and sinful and liberalism is the same old lie fed to Eve, that we can be G*ds, we can change the unchangeable, we can go at it our own way without our Heavenly Father. Liberals basically have no peace in their life, it's why when they win a battle they seem to get more angry and determined. Their empty hole can never be filled, with humanly pursuits such as spreading the wealth or other sloganeering. Sadly most of the world and ultimately most of the hardcore leftist are going to find out that endless soul sleep is not what awaits them, but the fires of hell. Not because they were angry, petulant, or bitter but because they forsaked the Lord Jesus Christ, they didn't need or want him or believe in him.

15 posted on 11/24/2010 7:26:24 AM PST by pburgh01
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To: rlmorel
>> This should be a very good thread. <<

Maybe, at least if nobody finds out that on Dennis's show the other day, he said the TSA pat-downs and full-body scans are basically OK.

Moreover, I promise not to tell anybody that Dennis often seems sympathetic in other ways to the typical RINO outlook!

16 posted on 11/24/2010 7:26:45 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: WebFocus

Liberals are lured into their cult by guilt or some claim to esoteric knowledge and then kept there by fear, and usually it involves the “Hitler card.” Doubt that go to any lefty site where there might be debate about internal cult politics, the “Hitler card” is never far from use.


17 posted on 11/24/2010 7:27:36 AM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: WebFocus
Liberals are unhappy because they don't see existence for what it is. It's challenging, difficult and sometimes painful.

Liberals seek to avoid their difficulties or mitigate their effects without facing them head-on, hence using pity as a tool for protection.

Love to a liberal is often means someone who can take away the pain and protect them like Daddy and Mommy.

Alas, this is why so many liberals don't want kids. They don't want to face the pain and be the protectors, the earners and producers for others.

18 posted on 11/24/2010 7:32:07 AM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: WebFocus

Miserable people are only happy when they are surrounded by other miserable people.


19 posted on 11/24/2010 7:33:01 AM PST by dfwgator (Congratulations to Josh Hamilton - AL MVP)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

RE: I notice a lot of people who have worked in industries that are noted for low-pay and rough working conditions (retail, local radio, etc.) tend to become Liberals.


I’ve known about this for some time. But this begs the following questions :

1) Do they have any other alternatives ? It’s not like someone is holding a gun to their head and forcing them to work there...

2) If the answer is NO, then it seems that they CHOSE to work there, not because someone forced them to.

3) If the answer is YES, then why not apply to another job? Why not tell their boss — “Take this job and shove it”

The mentality looks to me like this — because I hate my boss and his stinginess, and I have nowhere else to go, I’d like GOVERNMENT to make his life more miserable.

What he does not realize is the moment he gets his wishes, his boss just might say to himself — it isn’t worth doing this business with the government continually burdening me.

If he closes shop or moves, where is this guy going to find his job then ?

THAT is exactly what happened to a city like DETROIT (a very vibrant city just 50 years ago) on a very large scale.


20 posted on 11/24/2010 7:36:39 AM PST by WebFocus
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To: WebFocus
The more a man or woman feels like captain of his or her ship (as poor as that ship may be), the happier he or she will be.

Amen to that. No amount of "security" underwritten by a nanny state with its tentacles around every aspect of life, choking off the free air we breathe, is worth the loss of freedom.
21 posted on 11/24/2010 7:51:27 AM PST by mrsmel
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To: rlmorel
...there is still a part of their primitive hindbrain... continually sending subtle signals to their conscious brain that they are wrong...like a continuous...Chinese water torture that gives them ulcers, bilious personalities and a constant state of unhappiness.

Your entire post is a brilliant summation. Regarding the above part, I don't have the research, but would be willing to bet that the majority of substance abusers are "liberals."

22 posted on 11/24/2010 7:54:51 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: WebFocus

Two principles: Give and Get

The conservative is more likely to give; the liberal is more likely concerned with getting.

It is more blessed to give than to receive - scriptural, I believe.


23 posted on 11/24/2010 8:16:31 AM PST by i_dont_chat ("The Jihadists are coming!" "The Jihadists are coming!" In my best Paul Revere imitation.)
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To: TheThinker
Love to a liberal is often means someone who can take away the pain and protect them like Daddy and Mommy.

Many incorrigible liberals also have a serious issue with abandonment. Having been abandoned as a child by a parent through addiction, mental illness, divorce, death or some other reason, the unfortunate child projects a need for nurturing and support outside of the family. They demand "womb to the tomb" care that must be provided by the state. It is comforting to be recognized and provided for because the state will never gow away like an abandoning parent.

24 posted on 11/24/2010 8:24:24 AM PST by frithguild (The Democrat Party Brand - Big Government protecting Entrenched Interests from Competition)
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To: WebFocus

Conservatives and republicans are the party and beliefs of “I can do it myself”. Democrats and liberalism are the party and beliefts of “I have to wait for Government to do for me”

In a nutshell, that is why people become more conservative as they become self sufficient. We don’t need to wait around and/or ask permission to do things. We can do it ourselves.


25 posted on 11/24/2010 8:42:21 AM PST by Personal Responsibility (The more the plans fail the more the planners plan - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Albion Wilde

To kick substance abuse and become usefully whole, the sufferer has to have a psychic overhaul — that is, they have to change from being selfish and self-centered to becoming more interested in helping others. That is why the A.A. program works — it is centered around helping others.

If that isn’t an good description of converting a Liberal to a Conservative, then I don’t know what is.

You’ll hardly ever find a more conservative group of people than a group of long-term A.A members. (Notice, I said LONG-TERM. It takes over 20 years sometimes for the change to take place.)


26 posted on 11/24/2010 8:46:56 AM PST by i_dont_chat ("The Jihadists are coming!" "The Jihadists are coming!" In my best Paul Revere imitation.)
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To: Hawthorn

IMO, that doesn’t invalidate the premise of this article by mr. Prager.

The two subjects are mutually exclusive, and I can agree with him on this and disagree on that.


27 posted on 11/24/2010 9:10:00 AM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Albion Wilde

I don’t know if I would go that far, since I count alcoholism as substance abuse, and I have known more than a few conservatives who were alcoholics, including my father. I guess I have never really looked at substance abuse along political lines, though I do identify a key difference: Liberals accept substance abuse and try to explain personal responsibility away to other root causes...bad childhood, etc...I think it is no mistake most people support programs for drug abuse are liberals, but that is more a function of government cheese jobs.

BTW...nice hearing from you AW, have a nice Thanksgiving!


28 posted on 11/24/2010 9:16:59 AM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: WebFocus

Prager makes many good points. I’d like to say that TV is the number one culprit for making people into liberals. TV is where the majority of people get their liberalism — the more educated will get it from the university. The less educated will get it from watching liberal shows on TV or almost anything from Hollywood. TV is a one way stream of information that wants you to react emotionally. Therefore, Hollywood, the news, commercials, TV shows, etc., are experts at manipulating your emotions, manipulating how you feel. Liberalism is about feeling “good.” To be fair, religious programs also manipulate feeling. And liberalism does have similarities with religion: both can be very idealistic. But with liberalism there is very little encouragement to think about the issues — most of the issues are presented prepackaged and the public is suppose to accept and react. It activism is its missionary work.

This has been going on for some time but I think the 60s were pivotal in pushing liberal values and the importance of feeling: pop & rock music were the first big public educators. We’ve been trained to feel. The 60s liberal values were in the “air” and spread everywhere, even to future generations of people.

Today the Tea Party want fiscal conservatism but are they socially conservative? Many aren’t, but the national debt factor mitigates their liberalism. In other words, they too have been watching TV all their lives but something is working against it’s influence: common sense.

Liberalism is also a big escape if you have nothing to loss — the person working in a sh*t job thinks he is equal to and should have the same as Brad Pitt. Life is unjust and the government handout is a paltry recompense for the great injustice of not being Brad Pitt. Where did he get that idea that we should all be equal? Television. Most desperate people buy lottery tickets and vote democrat. But the liberal “feels” he is being moral if he gives government permission to give handouts to the desperate guy who “feels” the injustice of not being Brad Pitt. One is a fool and the other is a desperate fool — but the ultimate root of the foolishness is liberalism.


29 posted on 11/24/2010 9:45:22 AM PST by Blind Eye Jones
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To: i_dont_chat

As a former enabler who spent time in Al-Anon and ACOA, I agree with everything in your post.


30 posted on 11/24/2010 9:49:35 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: rlmorel

Hey, rlmorel, a very happy Thanksgiving to you and family as well!

As to drug and alcohol abuse, the exceptions prove the rule. Like I said, I don’t have the research. But yes, the ones who not only don’t maintain themselves somehow, as your dad did, and who don’t recover but need frequent taxpayer-supported rehabs — are those likely to be conservatives? Possibly only the veterans who have PTSD as a primary wound.


31 posted on 11/24/2010 9:53:09 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I notice a lot of people who have worked in industries that are noted for low-pay and rough working conditions (retail, local radio, etc.) tend to become Liberals.

Interesting. A friend who I grew up with and who came from a conservative family is now a hardcore liberal. He has worked in radio since high school. Maybe that explains what happened to him...

32 posted on 11/24/2010 10:03:44 AM PST by Some hope remaining.
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To: WebFocus

I’ve noticed that a common characteristic among liberals I know is jealousy. My neighbor was so upset that another neighbor, a retired cop, was going to be a teacher. She felt it was unfair that he would get 2 pensions when he retired from teaching.


33 posted on 11/24/2010 10:18:00 AM PST by mom.mom
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To: TheThinker

“Alas, this is why so many liberals don’t want kids. They don’t want to face the pain and be the protectors, the earners and producers for others.”

It’s also why they feel so victimized when a tiny baby starts using up some of their body space.

A 2 year old has far more fortitude and maturity than your average liberal.


34 posted on 11/24/2010 9:21:12 PM PST by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: mirkwood
Conservatives believe in GOD.
Liberals believe in Santa Claus.

But do these describe symptoms and not the cause? The author descsribes the differences in symptoms pretty well but he never really gets to the underlying cause, whatever that may be. For example, and in my observations generally, libtards are eternal pessimists; conservatives, eternal optimists. But why? I think a deeper understanding of cause and effect would be a lot more helpful.

What causes one person to look at life and declare, "Life isn't fair", and uses it as justification for all manner of toxic bahavior? While another person declares, "Life isn't fair" but deals with it on a more rational, ie, adult level. To me the answer is simple and not necessarily a news flash since I've seen excellent articles and essays written on the subject and that is, libtards were never able to grow beyond adolescence emotionally. Conservatives were somehow able to make the leap to adulthood which allows them to accept the world as it is and commit themselves to dealing with it.

Especially difficult for parents raising children these days when schools, Hollywood, Madison Avenue, and of course the federal government in particular elevates fantasy and encourages dependency. IOW, they have usurped to role of parents and the church.

35 posted on 11/24/2010 10:08:44 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (You have just two choices: SUBMIT or RESIST with everything you've got!)
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To: November 2010
Great article. I think he’s right.

Same here. Prager is right on target as usual.

36 posted on 11/24/2010 10:18:26 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: WebFocus

Recently, a researcher announced the discovery of a “liberal” gene: people who have it and were very social adolescents tend to be liberal. The researcher (a probable liberal) called it an “open-minded” gene, because liberals are so accepting of alternate life-styles and so forth. I would call it something else—a gullibility gene, maybe, since liberals seem to fall for any hair-brained scheme.

While I don’t think that genetics holds the entire answer, I do think that it plays a part. Also, since liberalism is a multi-faceted belief and behavior system, I think that other genes will be identified that also influence people to become liberals.

Identifying the genes is the first step towards finding a treatment.


37 posted on 11/27/2010 4:47:17 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: WebFocus
According to polls — Pew Research Center, the National Science Foundation — and studies such as Arthur Brooks’s Gross National Happiness, conservative Americans are happier than liberal Americans....

[C]onservatives on the same socioeconomic level as liberals give more charity and volunteer more time than do liberals. And as regards the suffering of non-Americans, for at least half a century conservatives have been far more willing to sacrifice American treasure and American blood (often their own) for other nations’ liberty.

Happier people are more generous...hmm. Too common-sensical for the academy?

38 posted on 11/27/2010 6:47:05 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: WebFocus
Ooooh, Dennis, I love this:

Utopians will always be less happy than those who know that suffering is inherent to human existence. The utopian compares America to utopia and finds it terribly wanting. The conservative compares America to every other civilization that has ever existed and walks around wondering how he got so lucky as to be born or naturalized an American.

39 posted on 11/27/2010 6:52:45 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: WebFocus

bump


40 posted on 11/27/2010 6:56:28 PM PST by gibsosa
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To: WebFocus

I remember some older liberals in college telling me that if you were truly intelligent, then OF COURSE you would have to be depressed, with all your knowledge of the suffering in the world. I disagreed with this, saying that to depress and stymie yourself with the sad parts of the world would keep you from being one of the positive influences in the world, and they all thought I was an idiot.


41 posted on 11/27/2010 7:00:53 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: WebFocus

Another interesting thing is to ask a liberal atheist why he does not believe in G-d. He will tell you that it’s because there is evil, or suffering, or bad in the world, so HOW COULD THERE BE A G-D??? There could not be a G-d because children die. Etc.

Think of how stupid that is. There cannot be an omnipresent omnipowerful Creator because obviously He is not Santa Claus??? Or a magical fairy who does everything you wish??

What kind of argument is that? A human father is benevolent; no one loves his child more than he. And yet even a Dad cannot save his son from that car accident, or cancer. A Divine Creator has obviously created a very complex universe. Just because we are not sappily happy all the time is no reason to say that WE are the most powerful forces in this universe, that there could be no loving creator at all.


42 posted on 11/27/2010 7:05:48 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
A human father is benevolent; no one loves his child more than he. And yet even a Dad cannot save his son from that car accident, or cancer.

They would just say, that's because Dad is not omnipotent, as God is supposed to be. They are cocksure that they would run the universe differently if they were omnipotent.

Which amounts to their assuming that they are already omniscient.

I sometimes ask kids, "Is there anything that God cannot do?" They usually answer, "NO!" But the answer is, there are lots of things God cannot do. The Bible says "there is nothing too hard for God", but it also tells us that He cannot lie, and He does not violate His nature, nor ours. He does not force Himself on the unwilling, and he respects their choices.

Which is one reason why there is so much evil around. God could very well wipe it all out, and eventually He will, but it's not a quick fix.

43 posted on 11/27/2010 9:18:09 PM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: rlmorel

I think that colleges would do a much poorer job of liberal indoctrination if high school grads took a dead end job for a year between high school and college, or a stint in the armed forces.

So much of what college peddles is clearly nonsense, if you have even a bit or real world experience.


44 posted on 11/27/2010 9:22:38 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant

True words...


45 posted on 11/27/2010 9:44:34 PM PST by rlmorel ("We treat terrorists with kid gloves, and our citizens with rubber gloves." Rush Limbaugh)
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To: Hawthorn
Whatever other opinions Prager has, this is a pretty good analysis. The missing piece is, What predisposes otherwise intellectually competent people to become and stay liberal? This is where the element of self-deception comes into play. A person who has shakey self-esteem due to infantile(narcissistic) rage, envy, resentment, separation anxiety, will seek external validation that he is a "good" person.

Liberal deceits like utopianism offer ample basis to believe in one's goodness by identifying with allegedly altruistic and Higher motives. All one has to do is deny their harmful outcomes, inevitable given the deception and aggression at the base.

This is also why liberals turn to hate so quickly when their view of themselves is challenged. Offer up a genuinely good person, like Sarah Palin, who has never done harm to another human being, and the shallow self-deception of the liberal as a "good" person begins to fall apart.

This is why I maintain, Liberalism is the Politics of Denial.

46 posted on 11/28/2010 9:25:53 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Hawthorn
Whatever other opinions Prager has, this is a pretty good analysis. The missing piece is, What predisposes otherwise intellectually competent people to become and stay liberal? This is where the element of self-deception comes into play. A person who has shakey self-esteem due to infantile(narcissistic) rage, envy, resentment, separation anxiety, will seek external validation that he is a "good" person.

Liberal deceits like utopianism offer ample basis to believe in one's goodness by identifying with allegedly altruistic and Higher motives. All one has to do is deny their harmful outcomes, inevitable given the deception and aggression at the base.

This is also why liberals turn to hate so quickly when their view of themselves is challenged. Offer up a genuinely good person, like Sarah Palin, who has never done harm to another human being, and the shallow self-deception of the liberal as a "good" person begins to fall apart.

This is why I maintain, Liberalism is the Politics of Denial.

47 posted on 11/28/2010 9:28:56 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Hawthorn
Whatever other opinions Prager has, this is a pretty good analysis. The missing piece is, What predisposes otherwise intellectually competent people to become and stay liberal? This is where the element of self-deception comes into play. A person who has shakey self-esteem due to infantile(narcissistic) rage, envy, resentment, separation anxiety, will seek external validation that he is a "good" person.

Liberal deceits like utopianism offer ample basis to believe in one's goodness by identifying with allegedly altruistic and Higher motives. All one has to do is deny their harmful outcomes, inevitable given the deception and aggression at the base.

This is also why liberals turn to hate so quickly when their view of themselves is challenged. Offer up a genuinely good person, like Sarah Palin, who has never done harm to another human being, and the shallow self-deception of the liberal as a "good" person begins to fall apart.

This is why I maintain, Liberalism is the Politics of Denial.

48 posted on 11/28/2010 9:29:31 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: WebFocus

misery loves company.


49 posted on 11/28/2010 5:08:24 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (every bad idea once seemed good to someone.)
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To: Hawthorn

I share your view. Prager is often like someone who can diagnose an illness in others, but can’t see that he suffers from it himself. Bless his heart.


50 posted on 11/28/2010 7:48:00 PM PST by Tax-chick (We know that terrorists are Moslems. I repeat, we know that terrorists are Moslems.)
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