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Should Congress Give Luis Perez the Chance to Practice Law? [Barf Alert]
Wall Street Journal Law Blog ^ | 11/26/10 | Ashby Jones

Posted on 11/26/2010 9:45:27 AM PST by AtlasStalled

What does one see when one looks at Luis Perez? A model citizen and role model? A scofflaw? A reminder of just how broken our immigration system is? Let us explain: Perez recently got his law degree from UCLA (pictured), and in so doing became the first “undocumented” immigrant ever to do so. He’s planning on taking the California bar exam in January. But for now, his immigration status prevents him from practicing law and, for that matter, landing a legal-industry job. * * * Perez has got a quick rejoinder to all those who think he’s no better than a common criminal. “Being undocumented is not a criminal issue, it’s a civil issue,” he said. “The law sees us not as lawbreakers but as people without legal status.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ca; crimaliens; deport; illegal; lawyer; ucla

1 posted on 11/26/2010 9:45:32 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: AtlasStalled

Ya. Because we all need another attorney criminal. FU, Luis.


2 posted on 11/26/2010 9:50:05 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: AtlasStalled

It won’t be long before the ABA and the California Bar welcome him with open arms. As the song says, “only in Americaaaaaah....”


3 posted on 11/26/2010 9:56:48 AM PST by 4Runner
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To: AtlasStalled

Send his ass back to where he came from. America already has 100 times the number of shysters than we need. We don’t need this maggot out there causing trouble and sueing the U.S. taxpayers every time we turn around. Deport his ass!


4 posted on 11/26/2010 9:56:48 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't touch my junk!!!)
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To: AtlasStalled
If this yahoo thinks that being an illegal alien in a civil rather than a criminal issue, he definitely shouldn't be allowed to practice law.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

5 posted on 11/26/2010 9:59:48 AM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: AtlasStalled

6 posted on 11/26/2010 9:59:50 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: AtlasStalled
“Being undocumented is not a criminal issue, it’s a civil issue,”

Obviously, the boy didn't learn anything while he was wasting U.S. taxpayer dollars sliding through "law school" on the taxpayers' dime.

7 posted on 11/26/2010 10:02:46 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't touch my junk!!!)
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To: AtlasStalled
Perez: Being undocumented is not a criminal issue, it’s a civil issue ... the law sees us not as lawbreakers but as people without legal status.

Zakeet: An uncommonly good ability to bullsh*t demonstrates a high potential for a successful legal career.

8 posted on 11/26/2010 10:03:32 AM PST by Zakeet (Like the wise Wee Wee said, "We can't be broke ... we still have checks in the checkbook.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I disagree that he learned nothing.

He has learned the the justice system in America is a friggin joke.


9 posted on 11/26/2010 10:05:21 AM PST by Venturer
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To: AtlasStalled

This is BS. At age 18 what did HE do to become a legal resident? Nothing. Now he says this is a civil issue? Deport the SOB and make him pay back any monies paid by the state for his education.


10 posted on 11/26/2010 10:07:05 AM PST by celtic gal
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To: Venturer

He must be denied. Sorry. Try doing it legally next time. Adios.


11 posted on 11/26/2010 10:08:10 AM PST by Benchim
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To: AtlasStalled

Disgraceful that this is even a serious question.


12 posted on 11/26/2010 10:08:26 AM PST by Conservative Tsunami (2012: "Ich bin ein Tea Party-er!")
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To: Venturer
I agree.

He also learned that stealing other people's money is easier and a lot safer if you have a "law" degree. You don't have to carry a knife or a gun. You've got some moronic "judge" and "jury" who are your willing accomplices.

13 posted on 11/26/2010 10:08:38 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Don't touch my junk!!!)
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To: AtlasStalled

“Being undocumented is not a criminal issue, it’s a civil issue,” he said. “The law sees us not as lawbreakers but as people without legal status.”

If he wants to be a lawyer, he needs to study up on the law a little better before making statements like that.

Immigration and Nationality Act - Penalties
Sec. 266. [8 U.S.C. 1306]

(a) Any alien required to apply for registration and to be fingerprinted in the United States who willfully fails or refuses to make such application or to be fingerprinted, and any parent or legal guardian required to apply for the registration of any alien who willfully fails or refuses to file application for the registration of such alien shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall, upon conviction thereof, be fined not to exceed $1,000 or be imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

(b) Any alien or any parent or legal guardian in the United States of any alien who fails to give written notice to the Attorney General, as required by section 265 of this title, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall, upon conviction thereof, be fined not to exceed $200 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both. Irrespective of whether an alien is convicted and punished as herein provided, any alien who fails to give written notice to the Attorney General, as required by section 265 , shall be taken into custody and removed in the manner provided by chapter 4 of this title, unless such alien establishes to the satisfaction of the Attorney General that such failure was reasonably excusable or was not willful.

(c) Any alien or any parent or legal guardian of any alien, who files an application for registration containing statements known by him to be false, or who procures or attempts to procure registration of himself or another person through fraud, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall, upon conviction thereof, be fined not to exceed $1,000, or be imprisoned not more than six months, or both; and any alien so convicted shall, upon the warrant of the Attorney General, be taken into custody and be removed in the manner provided in chapter 4 of this title.

(d) Any person who with unlawful intent photographs, prints, or in any other manner makes, or executes, any engraving, photograph, print, or impression in the likeness of any certificate of alien registration or an alien registration receipt card or any colorable imitation thereof, except when and as authorized under such rules and regulations as may be prescribed by the Attorney General, shall upon conviction be fined not to exceed $5,000 or be imprisoned not more than five years, or both.


14 posted on 11/26/2010 10:12:43 AM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: AtlasStalled

Why doesn’t he take his nice little degree compliments of the taxpayers and return to his own country where it might do some good?


15 posted on 11/26/2010 10:19:40 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: AtlasStalled

Why don’t we all disobey civil law until our government decides to enforce it with regard to illegal aliens, or decides to criminalize illegal entry to our country? After all, if I refuse to pay my child support, it’s not a criminal matter, just a civil matter.


16 posted on 11/26/2010 10:19:53 AM PST by skookum55 ("We can give up on America or we can give up on this president ...." D. D'Souza)
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To: AtlasStalled
his immigration citizenship status prevents him from practicing law

Fixed it.

17 posted on 11/26/2010 10:22:34 AM PST by thecodont
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To: AtlasStalled

NO NO more Lawyers,especially ones that belong in another country.


18 posted on 11/26/2010 10:27:56 AM PST by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: skookum55

“Why don’t we all disobey civil law until our government decides to enforce it with regard to illegal aliens, or decides to criminalize illegal entry to our country?”

No matter what this guy says, this is not a civil matter. A civil matter is between individuals or individuals and a business involving things like breach of contract, personal injury, or property rights, etc.

A criminal matter is between the government and an individual that involves legal action for breaking the government’s law.


19 posted on 11/26/2010 10:34:30 AM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: AtlasStalled
"....it’s hard to read Tobar’s piece and come away not liking Perez, who was smuggled into the country when he was eight."

No its not - its easy.

He's an illegal, he breaks our laws everyday. He comes from a family who is illegal and breaks our laws every day. He and his family are moochers and crooks, illegally and immorally taking for their own what others have worked for.

He took up a space in school and college that did not belong to him. Who paid for his education? It certainly wasn't him.

Why would we want to see a person who has a history of ignoring and breaking our laws put in a position where he is (supposedly) working to apply the law?


20 posted on 11/26/2010 10:51:02 AM PST by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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To: AtlasStalled

.Good for him. He managed to steal from this country for all these years. He would make a great lawyer in his own country. (Mexico?) He will fit right in with a totally corrupt government, having prior experience and all.
BTW He is not an “undocumenteg student”, he is an ILLEGAL ALIEN!!! A criminal.
.


21 posted on 11/26/2010 10:58:19 AM PST by snowtigger (.)
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To: AtlasStalled

First, UCLA law is not easy to get into and he basically took a spot that should have gone to an American student.

Second, to even get into the bar, you have to pass the moral turpitude test, which is an oxymoron, but a criminal shouldn’t be allowed to practice law in any state.

Third, Mexico is falling apart. He should take his education to build up his own country instead of tearing apart ours.


22 posted on 11/26/2010 11:10:05 AM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: Benchim

He must be denied. Sorry. Try doing it legally next time. Adios.”

Besides: There are lots of drug dealers in Mexico who could use a lawyer for all the mayhem they are causing.


23 posted on 11/26/2010 12:54:46 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: radpolis; AtlasStalled
Second, to even get into the bar, you have to pass the moral turpitude test, which is an oxymoron, but a criminal shouldn’t be allowed to practice law in any state.

http://admissions.calbar.ca.gov/MoralCharacter.aspx

Business and Professions Code Section 6068

Duties of Attorney

It is the duty of an attorney to do all of the following:

(a) To support the Constitution and laws of the United States and of this state....

Attorney’s Oath

I solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of California, and

that I will faithfully discharge the duties of an attorney and counselor at law to the best of my knowledge and ability.

24 posted on 11/26/2010 1:06:25 PM PST by thecodont
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To: AtlasStalled

No. That was easy. What’s next?


25 posted on 11/26/2010 2:23:07 PM PST by newzjunkey (groped by Obama's TSA / an expired "Bush taxcut" = Obama Tax Increase)
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To: Elyse

Thanks for the clarification; makes sense to me.

But, perhaps its time for civil disobedience: we should all violate the government’s laws as long as the government allows illegal aliens, including Obama, to violate the government’s laws.


26 posted on 11/26/2010 9:32:31 PM PST by skookum55 ("We can give up on America or we can give up on this president ...." D. D'Souza)
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To: AtlasStalled

Yes, practice your craft in Mexico City.


27 posted on 11/26/2010 10:30:48 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: All
Perez has got a quick rejoinder to all those who think he’s no better than a common criminal. “Being undocumented is not a criminal issue, it’s a civil issue,” he said. “The law sees us not as lawbreakers but as people without legal status.”

Are you ready for this, Americans?

The "American" Bar Association's new president, Stephen N. Zack, will announce a new direction for US law.

Zack intends to hold public hearings across the country to “study” whether the US legal system is “addressing the needs of Hispanics.”

What's next Zack----imposing Sharia Law on Americans?

The ABA is no longer concerned with “US law.” They Are Peddling Race Instead of Law. The ABA is poised to segregate Americans into classes each with their own “laws.”

According to the ABA, we now have “Hispanic law,” “African American law,” "Sharia Law," “Gay Law.” ………………… maybe a little “White law” thrown in here and there. Maybe “non-human law” is next? In case your dog might want to sue someone.

The reason we have “Hispanic law”? Because Stephen N. Zack the new president of the ABA is a Cuban-lawyer from Miami, Florida. Can you say conflict of interest?

The disturbed left’s identity politics, its propensity to separate us and balkanize American into different segments moves ahead apace with the era of Obama........

Obama....you remember him, that post-racial president that was supposed to “heal” America? Yeah, that one.

28 posted on 11/27/2010 4:18:04 AM PST by Liz
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To: AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; La Lydia; raybbr; TADSLOS; Kimberly GG; CutePuppy; ...

ping


29 posted on 11/27/2010 4:18:43 AM PST by Liz
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To: thecodont; AuntB; Liz

his immigration citizenship status prevents him from practicing law

Fixed it.
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his illegal alien status prevents him from practicing law

There ya go kid...


30 posted on 11/27/2010 4:27:29 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: snowtigger
THOUGHT FOR THE DAY It's alright to preserve one's culture as long as it's not white Western exceptionalism.

Perez managed to steal from this country all these years-----God knows how many fake identities and stolen SS cards he, and his family, used to get on the US gravy train.

RIDING THE US GRAVY TRAIN An illegal alien w/ wife and five children violates our borders. He gets a job mowing loans for $5.00 or 6.00/hour. At that low wage, with six dependents, he pays no income tax, so each year, he files an Income Tax Return to get "EITC---earned income credit" of up to $3,200 scot-free.

He qualifies for Section 8 housing and subsidized rent. He qualifies for food stamps and no deductible, no co-pay free health care. His children get free school breakfasts and lunches.

The kids qualify for monthly SSI checks, faking ADD; the illegal and his wife get SSI if they fake being aged, blind or disabled; SSI qualifies them for Medicare.

Plus illegals don't worry about pricey items like car insurance, life insurance, or homeowners insurance, and qualifies for relief from high energy bills.

ALL OF THAT IS COLLECTED WITH JUST ONE IDENTITY Evidence shows illegals establish several identities with stolen SS nos and fake documents (which these "poor immigrants" buy from document brokers for several thousand dollars).

=========================================

Now here's a great idea.

wmal.com | November 26, 2010 | Amanda Gaines, 630 WMAL News
FR Posted on Friday, November 26, 2010 by 69ConvertibleFirebird

WASHINGTON - An elected Maryland state delegate is preparing to file a civil injunction against Montgomery College for allowing illegal immigrants to attend the school. "According to the statistics we have, we think it could be as much as $10 million in taxpayer subsidies being used for in-state tuition illegally," said Delegate Pat McDonough, a Republican representing Baltimore and Harford counties.

McDonough called for a criminal investigation into the public institution last month. While some other public universities in the area allow illegal immigrants as students, Montgomery College is one of the few to afford them with low in-state tuition rates. The blame falls on the college and County Executive Ike Leggett for allowing illegal aliens not only to attend the school, but to pay the same costs as legal in-state students, McDonough told WMAL. He added that the injunction will be filed "in the very near future." "They've all pleaded guilty," he said.

"What they don't understand is, you're entitled to your own opinion, but you're not entitled to your own law.

So we plan to go to the state prosecutor and the federal prosecutor because it's a violation of both federal and state law." Some Montgomery County residents are already planning to join the lawsuit, McDonough said.

He called Montgomery College the "tip of the iceburg," and says he suspects illegals are being offered similar deals at other public institutions of higher learning in the state. "The money has already been spent," he said. "The taxpayer's money has already been used under unlawful conditions. Somebody has to be responsible for that."

31 posted on 11/27/2010 4:29:49 AM PST by Liz
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To: Tennessee Nana

M-u-c-h better.


32 posted on 11/27/2010 4:31:57 AM PST by Liz
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To: Liz; Tennessee Nana; AuntB

Not a citizen. Illegal alien. Can’t practice law here.

Agreed.

What was UCLA thinking!


33 posted on 11/27/2010 12:13:28 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

this POS needs to be in jail or deported.

we have lots and lots of poor americans, and one of them was likely denied admission and scholarships to support this CRIMINAL law breaking FILTH.

God Bless America. Let’s take it back, NOW!


34 posted on 11/27/2010 3:47:55 PM PST by OilCanDan23
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