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CHINA TELLS AMERICA: Turn Around The USS George
BJ ^ | 11/26/10 | Gus Lubin

Posted on 11/26/2010 1:56:43 PM PST by Flavius

China has warned against military activity near its coastline ahead of U.S.-Korea naval exercises, according to Reuters.

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To: Flavius

MAKE US...


51 posted on 11/26/2010 2:40:22 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Americanexpat

I am going to stop eating Chinese food in protest!

Serenity Now!!!!


52 posted on 11/26/2010 2:41:44 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: All

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/koreas-brink-war-attack-fire-12229431


53 posted on 11/26/2010 2:43:32 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Vendome

” I am going to stop eating Chinese food in protest! “

Naaaah - just call it ‘Freedom Food’, and carry on as usual....


54 posted on 11/26/2010 2:43:39 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Flavius
"If this sounds familiar, it's because the same thing happened after the Cheonan shipwreck. America sent some warships to join in naval exercises, China was outraged, and America yielded and moved the exercises primarily to a more distant location."

I'll huff and I'll puff...and do nothing. More window dressing to cover for inaction.

55 posted on 11/26/2010 2:43:52 PM PST by Red Dog #1
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To: Sacajaweau

China is mad at us about the Feds printing dollars in addition to telling us a while ago about the Naval exercises. As far as owning us well the Fed. (Bernanke) is now the largest holder of our debt but I believe they are also furious because the Fed is devaluing the dollar (and they have $884 Billion of them) and we are exporting our inflation to boot. There’s a lot of hungry Chinese to contend with so much so they’ve started subsidizing them but for how long?

China warns against US-S Korea joint naval drills

Beijing: China Friday warned against any military acts in its exclusive economic zone without its permission as the US and South Korea prepare for joint naval exercises in the Yellow Sea this weekend in a show of strength against belligerent North Korea, Beijing’s close ally.

“We hold a consistent and clear-cut stance on the issue. We oppose any party to take any military acts in our exclusive economic zone without permission,” Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said in a statement.

The comment came as the US and South Korea are to launch a joint naval exercise on November 28 amid heightened tensions after North Korea shelled a South Korean island on Tuesday.

http://www.zeenews.com/news670617.html

China introduces subsidies amid food shortages

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11772184

The Biggest Holder Of US Debt Is Ben Bernanke

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/today-biggest-holder-us-debt-united-states-america


56 posted on 11/26/2010 2:45:48 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Texas Eagle
About a year ago our President went around the world telling other leaders what a bad bunch the USA was. According to Obama we were the pits when it came to living with the world. Most of them believed what he said because it was good political cover back home. Now our President is faced with a North Korea and China that have no respect for us, and he just ran out of courage.
57 posted on 11/26/2010 2:48:03 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Let Gulf Beach Club)
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To: clamper1797

Tend to agree I think we’re being setup for the big one. Generated crisis


58 posted on 11/26/2010 2:48:17 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: nascarnation

A strongly worded statement, delivered by a junior statesman, because our (basketball) Player, the President, has a busted lip. Dear God, help us the next 2 years.


59 posted on 11/26/2010 2:49:03 PM PST by i_dont_chat ("The Jihadists are coming!" "The Jihadists are coming!" In my best Paul Revere imitation.)
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To: Sacajaweau

China owns us. Until they fire the first shot at us. Then we stop all payments on our debt to them. They get really really mad, and we put our hands to our ears and tell them we can’t hear them.


60 posted on 11/26/2010 2:49:38 PM PST by Enterprise (TSA - The Silly Agency)
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To: Flavius

I am sure when China attacks us...Obozo will just say it is a one-time event and Hillary will rush a “RESET” button over to China.

Of course they will TWEET their verbal warnings so they make a bigger impact on China...


61 posted on 11/26/2010 2:49:48 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: surfer

i never understood these conventional wars/shellings when everyone is warming up the nukes

whats the point exactly


62 posted on 11/26/2010 2:52:00 PM PST by Flavius
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To: Sacajaweau
China is going stupid?? Or do they “own us”...

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Neither. This is a face-saving public remark that everyone knows is fairly meaningless. The US/SK exercise was planned long ago and will take place hundreds of miles from China's economic territories.

On a side note, the number of freepers clamoring for war is pathetic (I do not include you). There would be nothing good short, mid or long term from an Asian war. Just death and global economic upheaval.

63 posted on 11/26/2010 2:53:05 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Flavius

“Lets get it on.”


64 posted on 11/26/2010 2:53:12 PM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: Flavius

What would really get China’s attention would be to start shifting sourcing to countries like Taiwan and India. There must be overseas markets with labor pools large enough to take a bite out of our China imports.


65 posted on 11/26/2010 2:53:48 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Scratch a “progressive” and a fascist bleeds)
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To: reagan_fanatic

The armada will be “diverted” because of some manufactured crisis.

Maybe a mall arrent in Omaha.


66 posted on 11/26/2010 3:05:08 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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To: dragnet2
Hold on, they'll tar and feather you for making that North / South mistake. Give Sarah Palin a call, she will help you out. LOL
67 posted on 11/26/2010 3:06:43 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Obama, Pelosi and Reid, the Axis of Fascism.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

lol...


68 posted on 11/26/2010 3:09:09 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Red Dog #1
Now that everyone knows that the George Washington is on the way. How soon will they be shadowed by a Chinese pig boat? Someone with more savvy that our leader should see to it that the George Washington Battle Group gets lost, a total news blackout. That will give the Chinks something to think about. Oh yes, sink the pig boat.
69 posted on 11/26/2010 3:09:58 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Let Gulf Beach Club)
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To: FromLori
Given the stated claims of the Progressives, President Soros and his minions regarding moving the US out of the rank of "Super Power", here is what I think is going down:

What we are watching is the formal stepping down of the US as a world super power and ceding this role to China.

Be thankful that President Soros hasn't yet ordered the surrender of the USS George to the Chinese in the same way that 'W' handed over a recon plane for them to steal. We didn't complain when they held our service men hostage, whats a few thousand sailors held hostage by China now?

70 posted on 11/26/2010 3:27:02 PM PST by The Theophilus
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To: Flavius

Let’s see, how many Chinese submarines need to submerge, never to rise again, just to equal the Cheonan?

The Chinese have a whole bunch of submarines.

http://www.strategypage.com/fyeo/howtomakewar/databases/submarine_database/submarines.asp

If they think they can be aggressive by proxy, perhaps it is time for them to understand that they may think they can act with impunity, but the reality is that the ocean is wide and deep, and at 400 fathoms, everybody can hear you crush.


71 posted on 11/26/2010 3:35:01 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: UCANSEE2
I heard Barry has a split lip. Wonder if it has anything to do with this?

Believe it or not, I once got a nasty split lip from a fish. While deep sea fishing off the coast of Baja California. Hardly anyone believes me when I tell them that story. Everyone just assumes a deckhand smacked me one :>

72 posted on 11/26/2010 3:36:22 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: grobdriver

Do you still think the Chinese have a one mile wide rocket?


73 posted on 11/26/2010 3:38:21 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: dragnet2

I sure hope you aren’t one of the FR critters who criticized Sarah Palin on North Korea....


74 posted on 11/26/2010 3:42:13 PM PST by MestaMachine (Aut viam inveniam aut faciam - I will either find a way or make one)
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To: Flavius

Has the eminent Secretary of State with presidential ambitions been on the scene lately


75 posted on 11/26/2010 3:43:52 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Vendome
I am going to stop eating Chinese food in protest!

Those food boycotts just do not work. I have committed myself to stop eating Mexican Food now about 4 times. Usually last about 2 days each time. That Fresh Mex is always calling.

76 posted on 11/26/2010 3:45:57 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Flavius
Yeah, China? What'cha gonna do if we don't, huh?

Obama has already told the world we can absorb another 9/11 style attack, so there! Ha! How ya like me now!

77 posted on 11/26/2010 3:46:05 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Flavius
"Turn Around The USS George "

Or what, exactly?

78 posted on 11/26/2010 3:54:14 PM PST by ronnyquest (Barack H. Obama is the Manchurian Candidate. What are you going to do about it?)
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To: frithguild

Anyone know what ships those are in Post #41?

I see the four attack subs in front and the carrier, but what are the others?


79 posted on 11/26/2010 3:57:59 PM PST by PastorBooks
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To: Flavius
U.S. to China: Korea drills not aimed at you

YEONPYEONG ISLAND, South Korea — The Pentagon Friday defended upcoming U.S.-South Korean naval exercises from criticism by China, saying the drills were aimed at deterring North Korea from another attack.

A Pengaton spokesman said it was "important" to state publicly that the exercises were "not directed at China."

80 posted on 11/26/2010 3:58:06 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Flavius

So what does China now consider as its coastal waters? 35 miles? 100 miles?


81 posted on 11/26/2010 3:58:38 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: The Theophilus

Yes I agree and if you recall just recently Soro’s said he wouldn’t support obama if he doesn’t implement his agenda (NWO)it’s so painful to watch knowing what kind of world my grandchildren will end up living in.

I’ve posted this before but if you haven’t read it...

Alinsky v. China?

http://www.acivilsociety.net/detail/alinsky-v-china


82 posted on 11/26/2010 3:59:47 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Vermont Lt
They said that exercises outside of the normal 200 mile boundary are fine.

Does china claim 200 miles out as its coastal waters? If so I did not know that.

83 posted on 11/26/2010 4:00:55 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: Flavius

Barry answered back you know. He said “okay, by the way we have some debt, do you wanna buy it?”


84 posted on 11/26/2010 4:01:50 PM PST by dforest
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To: luvbach1
Normally Economic Zones are 200 miles out. See link below. That 200 mile zone overlaps in the Yellow Sea between South Korea and China. Looks like they half that Economic Zone to about 100 miles due to the overlap. See Wikipedia image below.

Exclusive Economic Zone


85 posted on 11/26/2010 4:10:41 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Flavius
If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting.
86 posted on 11/26/2010 4:16:38 PM PST by traumer
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To: justa-hairyape

Whoa friend...

Don’t do that. Mexican food is your friend. Muy Caliente!


87 posted on 11/26/2010 4:18:53 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Flavius

The attack was nothing but a Chinese plot to create a scene in connection with the military exercises. It had nothing to do with North Korea.


88 posted on 11/26/2010 4:21:10 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Flavius
Ruh-Roh

Expats recalled as North Korea prepares for war

A mass exodus of North Korean workers from the Far East of Russia is under way, according to reports coming out of the region. As the two Koreas edged towards the brink of war this week, it appears that the workers in Russia have been called back to aid potential military operations.

Vladnews agency, based in Vladivostok, reported that North Korean workers had left the town of Nakhodka en masse shortly after the escalation of tension on the Korean peninsula earlier this week. "Traders have left the kiosks and markets, workers have abandoned building sites, and North Korean secret service employees working in the region have joined them and left," the agency reported.

Russia's migration service said that there were over 20,000 North Koreans in Russia at the beginning of 2010, of which the vast majority worked in construction. The workers are usually chaperoned by agents from Kim Jong-il's security services and have little contact with the world around them. Defectors have suggested that the labourers work 13-hour days and that most of their pay is sent back to the government in Pyongyang. Hundreds of workers have fled the harsh conditions and live in hiding in Russia, constantly in fear of being deported back to North Korea.

89 posted on 11/26/2010 4:25:27 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: pandoraou812
Hmmm China wants us to stay away....

You bet they do. I don't think China has any real control over the Norks but they will use whatever they do to push back against us and any influence the U.S. has in the orient, real or perceived.

If this situation breaks out into unrestrained conflict we should respond without any restraint at all. Devastate NK totally. Then make it clear to China that, while it was the only thing we could do to protect S. Korea, they can take it as a message in Beijing too. No apologies, no qualifications, no caveats at all.

90 posted on 11/26/2010 4:27:53 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Flavius
War games set Koreas on collision course


91 posted on 11/26/2010 4:34:07 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Joe Boucher
Whatever he does he'll blame it on his fat lip and the whorehouse media will sympathize.
92 posted on 11/26/2010 4:41:42 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: wtc911

Very well said.

And let’s throw in the fact that the US military is pretty busy in the middle east right now.

The logistics don’t work out.


93 posted on 11/26/2010 4:43:37 PM PST by berdie (qill)
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To: Joe Boucher

The Carrier will turn around—after some excuse is made. We dare not offend our Chinese masters.


94 posted on 11/26/2010 4:44:11 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Flavius

I guess we’ll finally see how much of US China owns.


95 posted on 11/26/2010 4:53:23 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Flavius
Situation is definitely not winding down yet.

Japan On Alert Over N Korea Developments

TOKYO (Kyodo)--All members of Prime Minister Naoto Kan's Cabinet were on alert Saturday for developments in North Korea prior to a four-day joint military drill to be conducted by South Korea and the United States in the Yellow Sea from Sunday.

Cabinet members have been ordered by Kan to stay in Tokyo until Wednesday and be at their ministry offices within an hour in the event emergency situations develop.

96 posted on 11/26/2010 4:53:28 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: Sacajaweau

Thanks to the politicans selling us out, they now “own “ us.


97 posted on 11/26/2010 4:55:35 PM PST by sport
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To: Logical me

Wrong. You are tired of it, I am tired of it, and perhaps a handful of Freepers and other like minded individuals are tired of it. The vast amount of Americans could care less. Just tell them what kind of useless junk is on sale for Black Friday so they can run up their credit cards. That’s all most Americans care about.

You can bet we will back down on this matter. We have just under 40K US Troops in South Korea. If we wanted to send a message it could have already been done. No, what do we do we send a Carrier task force that will take a few days to steam to the Yellow Sea. And once again you can bet they have orders not to put the pedal to the metal as well. I doubt they will ever get to their destination without being pulled back. And if I’m wrong and they do get there you can also bet they will be under orders to deedee at the first sign of hostilities. These aren’t goat herders in some back-water-istan. If the balloon goes up here it will be the real deal and our current so called leaders will simply not pursue the matter. I wish like hell my predictions were wrong on this. But deep down you probably know I’m correct.


98 posted on 11/26/2010 5:10:23 PM PST by Graneros
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To: berdie

The 25ID is the first line of reinforcement should thingspop in Korea. They have been stripped of multiple Stryker and other combay elements to plug holes in the WOT. If anything were to happen we would be re-activating multiple NG units and that would take weeks if not months.


99 posted on 11/26/2010 5:19:05 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: wtc911
Thank you for your reply. Not being military, let me see if I get the whole picture.

The 251D has been stripped of necessary defense elements?

We would have to reactivate the National Guard to have enough troops to make a difference? In my mind, that is as dangerous as no response at all. At least to the troops.

So I wonder...worst case scenario...would the current ROE that are in effect in Afghanistan apply to another military action?

100 posted on 11/26/2010 5:34:35 PM PST by berdie (qill)
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