Skip to comments.Asian gangs, schoolgirls and a sinister taboo
Posted on 11/26/2010 5:03:10 PM PST by PotatoHeadMick
At a pristine house on the outskirts of Derby, life is slowly getting back to some semblance of normality. The teenage girl living here is a college student whos put photos of herself dancing and laughing with her friends on several social networking websites.
A few miles away, another teenager, only a little older at 18, won a prize last month for being an inspirational student at her college. A third girl, a child of 14, has a loving mother who waves her off to a Derby school each morning from a terrace home with a manicured front garden and picket fence.
The three girls from decent families have, almost certainly, never met. Yet each has become caught up in whats believed to be the biggest case of serial sex abuse ever uncovered in Britain. This week, nine men from Derby were jailed for a string of offences against these girls and 24 others whom they groomed for sex.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
The simple fact is that the perpetrators are almost all Asian and from the north of England and their victims white."
Just to clarify by "Asian" the reporter means of Pakistani descent.
The Shire needs to be cleansed.
thank you for that clarification.... now it makes sense..... the lack of respect for females....
“But as Emma, a 21-year-old who eight years ago became a sex slave in another northern town and now counsels other victims, told the Mail recently: The truth is, most men running the gangs in the north of England are Asians of Pakistani origin. But very few of the authorities will say this.
Yup. In almost all these stories "Asian" actually means Pakistani Muslims.
The political correctness in Europe is even worse than here.
Muslim gangs? Did you hear the one about...........
Two moderate muslims were seated next to a very polite Marine on flight. The Marine kicked off his shoes to relax, then decided he wanted a Coke, so upon getting up, he asked the two muslims if they wanted one also. They said yes, but when the Marine had gone forward, they picked up his shoes and spat in them.
Shortly before landing, the Marine slipped on his shoes and knew immediately what had happened. He turned to the two muslims and ask; Why does it have to be this way between us? Will it always be this way? The muslims asked what he was referring to. He said you know, the spitting in shoes and pissing in drinks
These "Asian" people are culturally devoid of any redeeming value. The more culturally insensitive we can be to them, the better.
They have Muslim names, all but one. Why does Britain call them “Asians”?
This is Moose disgusting. Even here the taboo holds sway of telling exactly what most of the trouble makers are. These ain’t Koreans or Chinese or Japanese or Indians or even Rooskies.
I was under the impression that “Asian” has always meant people of Middle Eastern origins to the folks in the UK ... not necessarily being PC. ??
If they want a place that kowtows to Moose social standards they should go back to Pakistan or depart for some other Moose country. Flying-carpet baggers! Actually I bet they are happy to see these “slags.” No genie could grant them such a wish in an Islamic country.
Monsters like these should be executed. Any creature (I won’t dignify them by calling them human) who would kidnap and rape a human like these animals did, doesn’t deserve to live.
I’m sure the courts will come down hard on them (extreme sarcasm).
Watch the movie, Harry Brown.
I’m told it mirrors reality in some parts of Britain. This particular thread proves it.
gromed for sex... isn’t that what public schools are supposed to do these days?
This is a form of ethnic cleansing. Angelina Jolie's movie will portray the Muslims as the victims of this.
Read the book titled “Franklin Cover-up” and realize that what is exposed therein, is applicable worldwide, and is the glue that holds the Global March to One World Government players, both minor and major, together!
“Why does Britain call them Asians? Might it be because Pakistan is in Asia?”
That is true, but it would be similar to calling Sicilian mobsters “Europeans”. It obfuscates more than it reveals.
Of course it's also in Pakistan, and the people from there have an identifying name besides "Asian".
Mohammed Romaan Liaqat and Abid Mohammed Saddique
Yeah, that’s the most important identifier here.
F*ing press. All deserve the death penalty.
Most folks from Asia in Britain are from South Asia—India or Pakistan. In proper British usage, one talks about “East Asians” (meaning Chinese, Japanese or Koreans) and “South Asians” (meaning Indian or Pakistani or Sri Lankan or. . .), but, the latter being far more common in Britain, “South Asian” gets shortened to “Asian” in common usage, esp. in news headlines.
(Despite only having spent a total of four weeks in the U.K. in my entire life, I’m used to British usage because I’ve taken to reading the British press. I was about a year ahead of Rush, who now quoted The Telegraph fairly often. And lots of FReepers have taken up the practice, since you can get real news that way.)
Why not just call them Pakistani expats. That’s what they are. I call the illegals “Mexicans” because that’s mostly what
they are. If I called the illegals the popular PC term
“Hispanic”, I think it would be unfair to Hispanic American
Citizens. Or other Hispanic people that have actually gone through the legal process to come here.
yeah, whatever, you know what I mean. They are Muslim men, for the majority, weren’t they?
The Brits have always referred to them as Asians.
Sikhs blame British policy of ‘Asian’ tag
RASHMEE ROSHAN LALL
The Times of India
Nov 17, 2006.
LONDON: British Sikhs have stepped up their attack on the UK’s politically-correct policy of lumping Sikhs and Hindus with the omnibus tag ‘Asian’ instead of clearly identifying Muslims as the offenders when needed, just 48 hours after a Scottish Sikh teenager was viciously attacked by a white gang and forced to submit to having his long hair hacked off.
In a loaded attack on British political correctness, Sikh leaders blamed the Edinburgh incident on the UK’s refusal to identify Asian Muslims as perpetrators of crime. Instead, said the Sikh Federation, Britain's only Sikh political party, racist offenders against whites are routinely described by the British media as “Asian”. The Federation said, “The media by adopting such a crude policy was putting at risk those most visible amongst Asians - a simple phrase that the media is using to describe those with brown skin.”
The attack on British political correctness comes nearly a fortnight after the high-profile sentencing in the Scottish city of Glasgow of three ‘Asian’ Muslim men who horrifically killed a young white man, Kriss Donald, in a racist attack that shocked Scotland and much of the world.
On Friday, UK Sikh leaders said the community believed that the attack on the Sikh teenager was “directly linked to (the) conviction in Scotland for the horrific killing of a young white man by four Muslims.”
I wish I knew more about the differences in the Sikhs and the other muslims... I know it isn’t fair to lump all together, but when one doesn’t have the facts, it is difficult....
This is a dialectical difference between Britain and the US.
In England, "Asian" is always used to refer to people we would call "South Asian": Pakistani, Indian, Bangladeshi, etc.
Persons we would call "Asian" in the USA are always called "Oriental" in Britain.
Sikhs are not Muslims, nor Hindus.
They believe in God, reincarnation, and purification of the human soul (until one unites with God). Christians and Sikhs should be able to live in harmony, even though the two religions have striking (and insurmountable) differences. Unlike Muslims, Sikhs would not use force to try to convert others.
Jihad and Sharia are fundamental concepts of Islam. There’s no reason to mince words. Islam is the problem.
Sikhs are not Muslim at all. Quite the opposite, in fact.
They originally formed as an offshoot of Hinduism to fight the Muslims who had invaded India.
thank you. I needed to know that.
All at taxpayer expense. Nice.
In my America, oriental was commonly used in reference to Chinese, Japonese, Koreans, and Philipinos when I was a kid. Asians is a term I've only hear in the last twenty years.
My take on the British use of Asians is that it's more vague than the common term Pakis. The British press and Politicians are simply using it as a euphemism.
Sikhs are not Muslim at all
true, I have a question, are they allowed to carry their ceremonial, religious knives on planes?
No. I wouldn’t think so.
Sikhs are not any kind of Muslim.
Here is a short review of Middle Eastern and South Asian religions:
Before historical times there were only Hindus in India and pagans everywhere else. Most of the inhabitants of India remain Hindus, and are polytheists with dozens of major gods and some 70 million minor deities.
The Jews arose in Babylonia about 2000-1500 BC before their adventures in Egypt and the Holy Land. The Zoroastrians developed at about the same time in Persia. These were the first two great monotheistic religions, and may have arisen from a common root. The Jews of course persist in Israel and the West, while the Zoroastrians are now almost wiped out by the Muslims.
Separately, Gautama Buddha lived in India in ca. 300 BC and founded the school of knowledge that bears his name, and is as much a philosophy as a religion. Very few Buddhists remain in India, but there are large numbers of devotees in Tibet, Thailand, and East Asia.
Christianity of course arose in the first century AD. There are numerous Christians in India, some converted by missionaries in modern times, while others belong to Christian traditions dating back to the first few centuries AD, some of them supposedly even evangelized by St. Thomas himself. However, they are far fewer than Hndus and the other main religions.
Islam dates to the 7th century in Arabia and the Middle East. Shi'ite Muslims followed the son-in-law of Mohammed and are now found primarily in Iraq and Iran. Sunni Muslims are the majority elsewhere, including Pakistan and India, and followed other leaders after the split with the Shi'ites in the century after Mohammed's death. Sunni Islam moved eastward and conquered the Indian subcontinent in the 1000-1500 AD time frame (the Rajput, Delhi and Moghul Empires.)
The Sikhs appeared in Punjab in the late 1400's. This is a new religion and is not Hindu or Muslim, although it incorporates elements of both older religions. It is monotheistic and highly egalitarian, and in many respects is the most admirable of all the Eastern religions. The Sikhs were persecuted by the Muslim Moghul Empire and developed a mighty warrior tradition in their defense. These are the people one typically sees wearing the turban, and it is a great slander and mistake to attack them for being Muslim.
Hinduism is not exactly polytheistic, because the term ‘Hinduism’ itself is an arbitrarily constructed concept.
The Bhagavad-Gita, the main scripture of what we know today as Hinduism, is deeply monotheistic, and echoes that declaration throughout its length.
Nor is Hinduism exactly monotheistic. Would be an enjoyable discussion to follow should it come up elsewhere in a more suitable topic.
Wow, that looks like a great movie, I wonder why I never heard about it here in the U.S.? Loved the trailer, especially the last line, “You have failed to maintain your weapon...”
Harry Brown is similar to the Death Wish series, but I think the British did a better job of it. I’m sad to say, people tell me Harry Brown reflects reality in many parts of Britain today. The inmates are definitely running the asylum both here and there, but I hope goodly people are waking up.
As I understand it, the British left INTENTIONALLY imported the problem so as to destroy British society and create a new order (disorder?). I think the American left wants the same thing here. That’s what the multi-culti and diversity crowd are aiming for, the destruction of WASP culture. If President Obama really loved America, do you think he’d be constantly talking about changing it? No. I think he hates us.
Asian in Britain means either ‘South Asian’ which is Indians, Pakistanis, Bangladeshis or Goans. OR ‘Asian’ on its own means what would also be called oriental races ie Japanese, Chinese, Thais etc.
Middle Eastern in Britain means simply that: those who live in Iraq, Jordan, Iran etc. Including Egypt.
Moroccans, Tunisians etc are ‘North African’.
Some races like Afghans, Nepalese, Bhutanese are simply referred to as that, and not lumped into either the ME or Asian category.
The Brits are actually geographically correct, and less politically correct then the US press.
Pakistan and India are located in Asia. They typically refer to the people the US media refers to as "Asian" and come from the region around Japan, China, and the "far East" as "Oriental."
The PC thought process in the American media is so pervasive, I'll never forget an article I read that referred to a Black from Africa (who had never actually been to America) as an "African American African!"
If Hinduism as practiced is not polytheistic, then the word has no meaning.
That is precisely why Hinduism is so interesting and unintelligible to me. There are local or popular cults worshipping any number of gods or deities. There are those who believe all those gods or deities are simply the manifestations of a supreme being. I think there is even a branch which is somewhat atheistic. Maddening, trying to sort it out.
"Nay, and of hearts which follow other gods
In simple faith, their prayers arise to me,
O Kunti’s Son! though they pray wrongfully:
For I am the Receiver and the Lord
Of every sacrifice, which these know not."
- Bhagavad-Gita, Ch: IX, Lines: 92-96.
LORD! of the men who serve Thee—true in heart—
As God revealed; and of the men who serve,
Worshipping Thee Unrevealed, Unbodied, far,
Which take the better way of faith and life?
Whoever serve Me—as I show Myself—
Constantly true, in full devotion fixed,
These hold I very holy. But who serve—
Worshipping Me The One, The Invisible,
The Unrevealed, Unnamed, Unthinkable,
Uttermost, All-pervading, Highest, Sure—
Who thus adore Me, mastering their sense,
Of one set mind to all, glad in all good,
These blessed souls come unto Me.
The travail is for whoso bend their minds
To reach th’ Unmanifest. That viewless path
Shall scarce be trod by man bearing his flesh!
But whereso any doeth all his deeds,
Renouncing self in Me, full of Me, fixed
To serve only the Highest, night and day
Musing on Me—him will I swiftly lift
Forth from life’s ocean of distress and death
Whose soul clings fast to Me. Cling thou to Me!
Clasp Me with heart and mind! so shalt thou dwell
Surely with Me on high. But if thy thought
Droops from such height; if thou be’st weak to set
Body and soul upon Me constantly,
Despair not! give Me lower service! seek
To read Me, worshipping with steadfast will;
And, if thou canst not worship steadfastly,
Work for Me, toil in works pleasing to Me!
For he that laboreth right for love of Me
Shall finally attain! But, if in this
Thy faint heart fails, bring Me thy failure! find
Refuge in Me! let fruits of labor go,
Renouncing all for Me, with lowliest heart,
So shalt thou come; for, though to know is more
Than diligence, yet worship better is
Than knowing, and renouncing better still
Near to renunciation—very near—
Dwelleth Eternal Peace!
Who hateth nought
Of all which lives, living himself benign,
Compassionate, from arrogance exempt,
Exempt from love of self, unchangeable
By good or ill; patient, contented, firm
In faith, mastering himself, true to his word,
Seeking Me, heart and soul; vowed unto Me,—
That man I love! Who troubleth not his kind,
And is not troubled by them; clear of wrath,
Living too high for gladness, grief, or fear,
That man I love!
Who, dwelling quiet-eyed,
Stainless, serene, well-balanced, unperplexed,
Working with Me, yet from all works detached,
That man I love!
Who, fixed in faith on Me,
Dotes upon none, scorns none; rejoices not,
And grieves not, letting good and evil hap
Light when it will, and when it will depart,
That man I love!
Who, unto friend and foe
Keeping an equal heart, with equal mind
Bears shame and glory, with an equal peace
Takes heat and cold, pleasure and pain; abides
Quit of desires, hears praise or calumny
In passionless restraint, unmoved by each,
Linked by no ties to earth, steadfast in Me,
That man I love!
But most of all I love
Those happy ones to whom ’tis life to live
In single fervid faith and love unseeing,
Eating the blessèd Amrit of my Being!
The simple fact is that the perpetrators are almost all Asian and from the north of England and their victims white."
And from later in the article:
"At this point, it should be said loud and clear that the vast majority of Asian men are decent, law-abiding citizens and that rapists come from all racial and social backgrounds."
And a bit after that:
In Derby this week, Shokat Lal, chairman of the citys Pakistani Community Centre in the Normanton area where many of the girls were taken to seedy flats and then sexually attacked by the gang spoke out, too: It is important that political correctness or fear of offending any particular group of people does not get in the way of protecting those who are vulnerable.
These people are just like Obaama: they think that mouthing the right words will make everything OK, even if you then turn around and *do* the opposite of what is required.
NO cheers, unfortunately. We're doing much the same thing with respect to illegal immigrants from Mexico -- whether Mexican expatriates or jihadists sneaking in *through* Mexico.
Bump! And God bless you for your relentless work!
I read the article, and two of the four men sentenced had Pakistani names - but one had a Hindu name, and the other was a white British man.
In London and the south, a lot of the organised pimping is by Jamaican gangs.
The girls in question are lured by underage drinking and drug taking. Where are their parents? Why are they freely going out onto the streets to be driven off in cars by men whom they do not even know?