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Batteries v. gas - so far, it's no contest
Globe & Mail [Toronto] ^ | 11/27/10 | Richard Gilbert

Posted on 11/27/2010 7:04:00 PM PST by Nachum

Richard Gilbert is a Toronto-based consultant who focuses on energy and transportation. His latest book is Transport Revolutions: Moving People and Freight without Oil, written with Anthony Perl.

My last post suggested that two types of transportation fuel could replace oil products. One kind – including natural gas and biofuels – could be used in versions of the internal combustion engines (ICEs) that today provide propulsion for almost all road vehicles. The other alternative fuel – electricity – would require a switch to electric motors (EMs) for propulsion. I concluded that electricity is the best alternative, especially where there is a surplus of electricity generation or it could be readily expanded.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: batteries; contest; efv; electricity; energy; gas; recharging
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To: Army Air Corps
My gasoline-powered car also loves the highway. There are a few highways in Texas with 80mph speed limits. I set the cruise ocntrol at 80mph and average 35-38MPG.

What on earth are you driving that gives you 38mpg at 80mph????

41 posted on 11/28/2010 1:07:51 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Army Air Corps

We have driven all over the state of Texas for years and have never seen any 80MPH speed limits on public roads. Where are the ones you are speaking about?


42 posted on 11/28/2010 1:12:05 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Figment
What is this range of which you speak?

You have top parse the sentence as it **is** government-speak. The range that won't be sacrificed is their pet poodle named Range. No sacrifices will have to take place.

43 posted on 11/28/2010 3:38:23 PM PST by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: Ditter

That would be I-10 with a posted limit of 80mph (especially going west from San Antonio). It was 80 the last time I was down there about a year ago. There are also stretches of highway in West Texas with posted limits of 80mph.


44 posted on 11/28/2010 3:39:11 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Nachum
Richard Gilbert is a Toronto-based consultant who focuses on energy and transportation.

Yeah? Who is he a consultant for?

45 posted on 11/28/2010 3:40:07 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Nachum

How is the electricity it takes to charge a battery produced?


46 posted on 11/28/2010 3:41:52 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Army Air Corps

I live 2 blocks from I10 in Houston and I have driven it all the way out to west Texas. I don’t recall any 80MPH speed limits, but if you say there is, I’ll just have to take your word for it.


47 posted on 11/28/2010 5:11:16 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Postman
I don’t defer to 18 wheelers because I can’t keep up with them

I guess all you Prius drivers like the scenery so you go up hills at 35 MPH.

When an 18 wheeler has to slow down behind you while other traffic clears, it takes a long time and distance for them to pass, but they do that.

If you calculate the cost per mile for running a Prius, it is more than my motorhome. Also you have to enjoy the sagebrush on the hills around you.

48 posted on 11/28/2010 5:45:43 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Ditter

I am just going by what was on road signs from Junction all the way to SA about a year ago.


49 posted on 11/28/2010 5:49:48 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Nachum

the Federal Gov’mt makes more money off a gallon of gas than any other entity in the World. They aren’t gonna give but lip service to anything else unless they can “replace” that somehow.

A really medieval mindset.


50 posted on 11/28/2010 5:52:31 PM PST by mo
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To: Army Air Corps
Wow that is new. We have friends in Boerne and relatives in Fredricksburg I'll ask them when this happened.
51 posted on 11/28/2010 5:54:33 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Ditter

Well, a few yeats ago, TXDoT announced that some highways would have their limits raised to 80mph. A few months ago, I drove down to Sonora and saw 80mph limits on I-10 down there. There are some others (I-20 among them, if I recall correctly). I does make some of my trips to visit relatives in central Texas a bit shorter.


52 posted on 11/28/2010 6:00:50 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Dan(9698)

So in addition to your demonstrated ignorance about the topic at hand (and about hybrids and the Prius in particular), it’s apparent that you also don’t comprehend what you read. You take my words out of context to make a very belabored point and you are probably blind to (traffic) events that occur around you (while you’re driving).......you must be a liberal.


53 posted on 11/28/2010 7:46:45 PM PST by Postman
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To: Postman
I just made a trip that included driving the highway between Provo Utah and LasVegas.

I can only report what I observed.

There were more than one Prius going up 5% grades at 35MPH.

They either used up their battery in the 100 miles or so before the hill, or they enjoyed the scenery.

In any event, there were trucks that had to slow to follow them for a period when traffic would not allow the truck to pass. If the left lane was open, the truck moved to the left lane and passed.

I don't have a problem with Prius drivers who enjoy the scenery so they slow down to enjoy it even more. I do notice that none of the other cars do that so it must be just the Prius drivers who like the sagebrush that much.

The sagebrush isn't green, so I guess I don't understand why they like it so much.

54 posted on 11/28/2010 8:13:04 PM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: J Edgar

2010 Tesla Roadster Sport 0-60 in 3.7 seconds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF8fFVuIS2M

too bad most people will never be able to afford one.


55 posted on 11/29/2010 9:00:31 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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