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Some travelers pushing for child-free flights
News Channel 13 ^ | November 27, 2010 | Jonathan Petramala

Posted on 11/27/2010 7:14:56 PM PST by inflorida

A growing movement is pushing for flights with no children on board.

A recent survey by a travel fare-comparison site showed that 59 percent of passengers support creating special sections on flights for families.

The idea even has its own Facebook page, with 670 members and counting on the "Airlines should have kid-free flights" page.

Kristen Wince said she might have been one of those members - before her son was born.

"Yes, having been flying with no children, it seems like a good idea," she said. "Flying with children, it seems like a really bad idea."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: childfree; flights
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I can understand this even so I have a toddler. His first flight was last month and he screamed the entire time. I felt awful for the other passengers.
1 posted on 11/27/2010 7:14:58 PM PST by inflorida
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To: inflorida

TSA pat downs and underwear bombs we can stand, but not children! Heavens no!


2 posted on 11/27/2010 7:18:01 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

I’d rather have a liberal free flight.

Bring on the children.


3 posted on 11/27/2010 7:18:47 PM PST by Carley (IT'S THREAT ANALYSIS, NOT RACIAL PROFILING)
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To: mylife

Basically, with the current “naked pics or grope” approach of the TSA, they will have child-free flights pretty soon, anyway.


4 posted on 11/27/2010 7:21:11 PM PST by Zarro (Hands off Our Junk!)
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To: inflorida
My kids had their moments when they were little, but they were generally excellent travelers.

I'd rather have a flight free of idiotic adults who:

  1. Constantly get up and force those in the seats in their path to do likewise.
  2. Grab window seats and keep the shades pulled for the duration of the flight or, conversely, keep the shades up even when the setting sun or rising sun is clearly annoying their fellow passengers.
  3. Refuse to buy two seats or move over, even when their fat ass is hanging over into yours.
  4. Have to have their seat all the way down into your lap for the entire duration of the flight, even when they aren't asleep.

Most kids eventually give up on making a nuisance of themselves. The above examples of adults (and more) do not.
5 posted on 11/27/2010 7:23:41 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Carley
I got stuck sitting next to two kids with ADHD, as their parents chose to sit in a different row. I would much rather sit next to two little hyper brats than the somebody that spills over the boundaries of their seat.

Save me a spot in the kids section, they are better behaved than the average adult.

6 posted on 11/27/2010 7:23:45 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: inflorida

I have no problem with a person wanting a “Child free flight”.
Let them pay extra for it.

Take a family flight, pay the regular price.
Take a “child free” flight, pay premium for the privilege.


7 posted on 11/27/2010 7:24:09 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: inflorida

I remember my first flight with my now 8 year old when she was about 2. I had her in a car seat strapped to the airline seat. Her little legs stuck straight out (not long enough to bend). So her feet were pushing into the seat in front of her, which, of course, was in full recline. The lady in the seat in front of her scolded me the entire flight that my daughter was bothering her. Many folks forget what it’s like to have young children.


8 posted on 11/27/2010 7:24:45 PM PST by keepitreal ( Good manners never go out of style)
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To: Zarro
Free drinks and smoking used to work just fine to keep the little heathens at bay ☺
9 posted on 11/27/2010 7:26:10 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: inflorida

There is something wrong with a society that does not like to be around kids.

Years ago my Mother told me she was at a neighborhood ladies’ coffee party and one retired schoolteacher was complaining about taxes, and that she should not have to pay for taxes for schools since she had no children of her own. My Mother who was extraordinarally wise, was irate at the hypocracy of a person whose lifelong job was in education making such a statement.

It sounds a lot like the adults who lived in the Neuschwanstein castle in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.


10 posted on 11/27/2010 7:26:16 PM PST by Gumdrop
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To: inflorida
In the last few years I've taken several 14-16 hour long flights...the most recent just 10 days ago.On all but one of them the screeching of 50 different 12-month-olds just about drove me crazy (I was in cattle class for each one).I'd be all for kid-free flights.
11 posted on 11/27/2010 7:27:00 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Carley

It seems like a fair exchange till one of them screams in you ear “It’s not fair!!!!”


12 posted on 11/27/2010 7:27:54 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: inflorida

Typical nonsense from the self-obsessed abortion culture.


13 posted on 11/27/2010 7:28:12 PM PST by wideawake
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To: netmilsmom

Awww Jeez.

There you go being reasonable.


14 posted on 11/27/2010 7:29:06 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Vigilanteman
With the pitch of seats today I hardly ever recline my seat. It has gotten to the point where you can't even get a laptop on the tray table.

I will also never ever, ever never, never ever fly on a red eye that connects through Vegas. That was the weirdest flight I've ever been on.

15 posted on 11/27/2010 7:29:16 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Gumdrop

Our school district exempts people over 65 from paying school taxes on homesteads.


16 posted on 11/27/2010 7:31:59 PM PST by lonestar
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To: Allegra; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; Tijeras_Slim

17 posted on 11/27/2010 7:33:37 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: inflorida
I demand
18 posted on 11/27/2010 7:34:54 PM PST by DaveyB (Fear is the foundation of most governments -- John Adams)
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To: inflorida

A more reasonable approach would be to have a designated family section for travelers with children, much as there once was a designated smokers section when smoking was still permitted on commercial domestic flights.

Put the kids in the back where they can irritate each other and be close to the restrooms.


19 posted on 11/27/2010 7:35:14 PM PST by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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To: netmilsmom
There's some justification for higher costs, for adults-only flights. Children tend to weigh less than adults — therefore, an adult-only flight would probably have less capacity for freight, or have to burn more fuel.
20 posted on 11/27/2010 7:35:14 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Vigilanteman

I’ll add to your list, lol.

*People who take aisle seats and sleep the whole flight, so when middle or window seated passengers have to get up we feel like heels. (I always take the aisle so I can stretch and I can’t sleep on flights, even really long ones.)

*People who decide to use the flight time to clip their finger nails, and let the clippings fling off in all directions, amongst other gross grooming practices.

I remember one flight when my brother and I were kids where I had a window seat and my brother had an aisle seat, and in between us was an obese man who REFUSED to let us sit next to each other and he smoked what seemed like a carton of cigarettes blowing the smoke in our faces. Of course that was when smoking on planes was still allowed. This must have been a last minute trip or something for us to have gotten stuck in those seats, at least I hope it was because I doubt our parents had banked on us being tortured for 5-6 hours!


21 posted on 11/27/2010 7:37:17 PM PST by KJC1
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To: inflorida

Children should sit in first class for no extra charge. After all, they are future taxable assets. We’re gonna need them.


22 posted on 11/27/2010 7:42:57 PM PST by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: inflorida

Count me in!!!!


23 posted on 11/27/2010 7:43:58 PM PST by Mountain Bike Vomit Carnage (Tattoos are for identifying corpses and criminals.)
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To: USNBandit
I hear you. I've got to wonder why the idiot who specified moving the seats closer together so they could get a few extra rows and revenue on the flight didn't have the decency to specify limiting the recline ability of the seats by the same ratio.

I'm a big guy, but not so big I can't fit into an economy seat with the armrests down. So I've got to wonder why people a foot or so shorter than me have to have the seats in the full recline position when I can sleep with them in the half recline position out of courtesy to the people sitting behind me.

24 posted on 11/27/2010 7:46:52 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: inflorida

Works for me: my kids ain’t going thru a sexual assault gauntlet just to fly.


25 posted on 11/27/2010 7:48:53 PM PST by ctdonath2 (+)
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To: inflorida

Isn’t there some kind of mild sedative safe for children that they can take before flights? Also seems like a good idea to let them suck on a bottle during landings so their ears won’t hurt from the pressure.


26 posted on 11/27/2010 7:52:19 PM PST by tflabo
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To: tflabo

Hey kid you look like you’re coming down with a rash. Honey, get the Benadryl.


27 posted on 11/27/2010 7:55:10 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Carley
I’d rather have a liberal free flight.
Bring on the children.

Amen. Let the libs walk. It's greener.

28 posted on 11/27/2010 7:56:18 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: inflorida

This is life and people simply need to deal with it. Kids have been crying on planes, trains, buses, etc. since people started traveling. Kids have to travel sometimes, too and their parents ought not have less freedom than anyone else.


29 posted on 11/27/2010 8:00:43 PM PST by sand lake bar
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To: USNBandit

Perhaps a few drops of Nyquil in the bottle water would do wonders. I don’t mind kids but its the screaming I can’t handle for very long. My MP3 player helps spare me some before forced to turn it off when landing.


30 posted on 11/27/2010 8:02:50 PM PST by tflabo
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To: inflorida
My 2 grandchildren have flown from Seattle to HSV from the time they were very young babies. My daughter never had any trouble with them because she took toys, etc for them to play with in the air. People with kids just get on the plane and expect their kids to be happy as a lark doing absolutely nothing. Of course they are going to cry and be unhappy. When they were old enough, they started flying by themselves. Now, each has a toddler girl and they are getting ready to take them to Seattle for the first time. I expect them to do as well as the parents did. They know what to expect and will be prepared.
31 posted on 11/27/2010 8:03:47 PM PST by MamaB
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To: inflorida

I don’t have a dog in this fight. If I can’t get somewhere by driving my car, I am not going.


32 posted on 11/27/2010 8:03:47 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: inflorida

About 10 years ago, I spent a coast-to-coast flight in the middle of 5 center seats next to a screaming 18 month old. It was terrible, but it was probably worse for the father, who was nearly in tears by the end of the flight. He did try everything he could think of to calm his son — he even tried to get some brandy from the flight attendant.


33 posted on 11/27/2010 8:04:42 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: inflorida; a fool in paradise

How about child only flights? Passengers and crew?

(Just as realistic as this bright ideer!)


34 posted on 11/27/2010 8:05:19 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: inflorida

How many of those travelers would be willing to pay a few hundred dollars more for the special “child-free” flights?


35 posted on 11/27/2010 8:06:56 PM PST by VRWCmember (Jesus called us to be Salt and Light, not Vinegar and Water.)
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To: inflorida

I flew about 130,000 miles last year. (Thankfully far fewer this year, will finish with about 28,000 miles.)

That being said I found many adults to be more annoying than most kids. The worst offenders were those who fly a lot and have a sense of entitlement on the airlines.


36 posted on 11/27/2010 8:07:55 PM PST by Gamecock (New TSA Slogans: 1. If We Don’t Get Off, You Don’t Get On 2. We Love Your Fly and It Shows)
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To: tflabo
I seem to remember a friend of my daughter's used benadryl or cough syrup to keep hers quiet on flights to Scotland.
37 posted on 11/27/2010 8:08:29 PM PST by MamaB
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To: Carley

“I’d rather have a liberal free flight.”

Amen to that; put liberals in the cargo hold.


38 posted on 11/27/2010 8:09:18 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: sionnsar; Carley
Let the libs walk. It's greener.

d@mn straight! ...Make 'em ride that j@ck@$$ / mule everywhere.
...& let 'em (the enviro-terrorists) freeze in the (very) cold dark night


39 posted on 11/27/2010 8:12:21 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Imam Zer0: DeathCARE, Is my only "health" plan....to hell w/ free enterprise system :^)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I suppose this effective method would be considered abuse?

When I was 2 or so, I had to go to the dentist. I was terrified. Screamed bloody murder. Mother was asked to leave the room.

The Doc proceded to put his hand over my mouth. I bit his fingers. He adjusted and clamped firmly on my mouth again. I continued to scream though muffled by his hand. He proceded to pinch my nose off and on—enough to breathe but little else. I quickly decided that breathing was more important than screaming.

Mother came back in and insisted on learning the trick. For the rest of her life, any screaming kid within earshot—the mother got a high pressure lesson from my mother in what she SHOULD do.

LOL.

I used it in counseling a few times. I’d tell the parents who were unable to find a sitter, that they could bring the child. However, I had a firm rule. Either they controlled the kid or I did, or they would have to leave.

Of course, the 2 year old was usually in charge of the parents. Even with that strategy, I usually found that the 2nd convincing was followed by not being able to peel the kid off my lap. He was usually desperate for limits and felt the caring in the limits compared to the wishy washy walk all over his parents standard at home.


40 posted on 11/27/2010 8:12:55 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: inflorida

Define child.

if they mean under 8, then I understand. too many people don’t discipline their kids these days. I don’t want to be near them.


41 posted on 11/27/2010 8:13:06 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Gay State Conservative

“In the last few years I’ve taken several 14-16 hour long flights...”

Asia, So. Africa, Australia or ...?


42 posted on 11/27/2010 8:13:47 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: inflorida

Kids aren’t the problem,it’s their parents.Frankly speaking,I’m waiting for the airlines that lets my dog sit next to me ,in a paid seat.That will eliminate a certain group from flying on that airlines.Snarl.


43 posted on 11/27/2010 8:14:28 PM PST by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: inflorida
Screaming children don't bother me so much. The children who kick the seats bother me.

The worst flight I remember was a red eye from Salt Lake to Atlanta. This was right after they put those game consoles in the back of the head rests. The woman behind me kept punching my headrest with her stylus or pen or something. Bang bang bang, tap tap tap - finally I turned around and said PLEASE STOP!

44 posted on 11/27/2010 8:24:26 PM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch ( T.G., global warming denier.)
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To: tflabo
Isn’t there some kind of mild sedative safe for children that they can take before flights?
Both Young Living's Peace and Calming and Lavender essential oils are considered safe for young children. In fact, we currently have Peace and Calming on our dogs' paws, because they get very riled up when "grandpa" comes over to watch the ND game on TV. Works splendidly. The oil, however, should not be used for cat.

And if you have older kids, yes, even adults! that act up, Frankincense is awesome ...
45 posted on 11/27/2010 8:25:41 PM PST by mlizzy (Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee ...)
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To: Gumdrop

“There is something wrong with a society that does not like to be around kids.”

They keep you young and aware of what life is all about. Not self, self and self. Young parents need an older person to ask is this normal when a child melts down over something. Some people forget it happens in the best of families. Visit one of the adult only retirement developments they are a breeding ground for stupid liberal ideas. More chad problems per square block than in the real world.


46 posted on 11/27/2010 8:25:57 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: DaveyB

I want laptop free flights where the person next to me keeps using me for a desk.
No reclining seats. Why should I have someone’s head in my lap so he can read his screen without glasses.


47 posted on 11/27/2010 8:28:57 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: inflorida

Headphones.


48 posted on 11/27/2010 8:52:28 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: MamaB

You flew to the Herpes Simplex Virus? From Seattle? Huh...


49 posted on 11/27/2010 10:01:35 PM PST by stormer
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To: inflorida

I can understand this even so I have a toddler. His first flight was last month and he screamed the entire time. I felt awful for the other passengers.

****************

Did you at least fly coach??

;)


50 posted on 11/27/2010 10:47:47 PM PST by ROTB (Sans Christian revival, we are government slaves, or nuked by China/Russia when we finally revolt.)
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