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Local TSA Agent Speaks Out On Pat-Downs
CBS Pittsburg ^ | November 24, 2010 | Jon Delano

Posted on 11/28/2010 4:00:52 PM PST by MsLady

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1 posted on 11/28/2010 4:00:58 PM PST by MsLady
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To: MsLady

Then quit and go work at home depot


2 posted on 11/28/2010 4:05:10 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: MsLady

Have been through the Pittsburgh checkpoints recently. The TSA personnel are very professional and respectful.

This would be in contrast to the officious, self-important gestapo “guarding” the Kansas City airport.


3 posted on 11/28/2010 4:07:05 PM PST by troublesome creek
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To: al baby

Hear! Hear!


4 posted on 11/28/2010 4:07:51 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


5 posted on 11/28/2010 4:08:14 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: MsLady

“I vas chust followink orders!”


6 posted on 11/28/2010 4:08:44 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: troublesome creek

Or the Uganda crew @ Hartsfield.


7 posted on 11/28/2010 4:08:56 PM PST by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: al baby

TSA = Too Stupid for Arby’s


8 posted on 11/28/2010 4:09:50 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: al baby

He may have many mouths to feed. I doubt if “Home Depot” is hiring or that they’d pay him $18/hr.


9 posted on 11/28/2010 4:12:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Re: Gov. Sarah Palin: Even the lion has to defend himself against flies. ~German Proverb)
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To: troublesome creek

Pittsburgh is probably my favorite of the large airports.

They are always professional.


10 posted on 11/28/2010 4:13:08 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well he could become a garbage man 21 dollars an hour plus all you can eat


11 posted on 11/28/2010 4:16:06 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: al baby

walk off the job


12 posted on 11/28/2010 4:17:17 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: troublesome creek

It’s terrible and I have to agree with the other posters. Although it would be a sacrifice, those that understand this is wrong need to quit the TSA. My guess is all but, the Neanderthals knows this is wrong.


13 posted on 11/28/2010 4:18:51 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

No kidding!!!! If TSA keeps getting away with this and the people quit fighting it, they will go farther. Just like a bully, keeps pushing and pushing, but, push back and the run with their tails betwixed their legs.


14 posted on 11/28/2010 4:20:16 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: mylife

Agree with you on Pittsburgh.


15 posted on 11/28/2010 4:20:43 PM PST by troublesome creek
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To: MsLady

It is part of the weeding process to find out who will follow any orders when they work for the Civilian Defense Force.


16 posted on 11/28/2010 4:22:04 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: dusttoyou

The Idi Amin’s of the TSA.


17 posted on 11/28/2010 4:22:17 PM PST by troublesome creek
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To: MsLady

I rather get pat down than have the body scan. The radiation in those are really bad for you. I think any little bit can help with all the crazy terrorist out there.


18 posted on 11/28/2010 4:25:23 PM PST by mbravo37
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To: troublesome creek

The thought of DFW makes me cringe LoL
Always has.

Seems like its a requirement there that TSA are muslim.


19 posted on 11/28/2010 4:25:26 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: MsLady

““I truly feel that it is morally and ethically wrong to do it,” the agent noted. “This does not make flying safer. It’s just taking away American citizens rights.””

It is also criminal. So quit.


20 posted on 11/28/2010 4:25:50 PM PST by devere
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To: mad_as_he$$

Isn’t it a bit like, you don’t bite the hand that feeds you? It would be hard to quit, especially if you don’t have prospects of an equal job. Or maybe no prospects for any job. This is where your principles have to take over and you have to rely on God as your source.


21 posted on 11/28/2010 4:25:55 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: al baby

If these people quit, All that will be left are the brown shirts and perverts.


22 posted on 11/28/2010 4:26:27 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: MsLady
Yes. A real dilemma in the economy 0 has created.
23 posted on 11/28/2010 4:27:35 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: devere

It’s true, it is criminal and everyone participating should be arrested. Especially PISTOLE, what a _______ fill in the blank.


24 posted on 11/28/2010 4:27:58 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

While I know certain elements here will say that TSA is perfect Jack boot thug training, there was a person that asked the Cop Talk section of Glock Talk if working for TSA would enhance his chances for employment as a police officer when the hiring agency was considering job experience.

The concept and the TSA was universally ridiculed and bashed by the officers on the forum.


25 posted on 11/28/2010 4:29:07 PM PST by 5Madman2 (There is no such thing as an experienced suicide bomber)
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To: al baby

If you went through the airport to get on a plane. Could you do a citizens arrest? You refuse the scanner and refuse the molestation and they insist on it. Or do they not insist, hold you, which wouldn’t that be holding you prisoner, that’s also against the law....hmmmm.


26 posted on 11/28/2010 4:30:31 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

I applaud this agent for blowing the whistle and working from the inside to affect change rather than handing over all TSA functions to the lowest of the low.


27 posted on 11/28/2010 4:30:43 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: MsLady

re: “I truly feel that it is morally and ethically wrong to do it,” the agent noted. “This does not make flying safer. It’s just taking away American citizens rights.”

I agree with the agent’s words on this point. Obviously, however, the agent doesn’t completely agree with his own words, or he’d quit.

Much as I hate the actions of the TSA staff, I realize they never expected to be in such an ethical morass. It’s difficult to admit that you are being asked to do immoral things, and harder to admit that, if you stay, you might not be able to avoid becoming immoral yourself. I have experience with quitting a job where I realized I was working for criminals (it was a job with the University of California, by the way). The best advice I can give to someone who is considering quitting due to ethical considerations: quit, get a good night’s sleep (might be the first good night’s sleep you’ve had in a while), accept that your life will temporarily become much more difficult, let people help you pick up the pieces, and move on. None of those actions were easy for me, and they might not be easy for you, but they are the right thing to do.


28 posted on 11/28/2010 4:31:05 PM PST by Jubal Harshaw
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To: mylife

Good point!!!! Maybe more and more TSA agents will step forward. Could they not just refuse to do the pat-downs? Against orders, go ahead fire me, kinda thing. The government doesn’t fire anyone and when they try, there is tons of paperwork and it can take months.


29 posted on 11/28/2010 4:32:57 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
“I truly feel that it is morally and ethically wrong to do it,” the agent noted.

Eichmann alert!

30 posted on 11/28/2010 4:33:25 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Happy Thanksgiving to all!)
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To: MsLady
JANETS8


31 posted on 11/28/2010 4:35:28 PM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: devere

The agent is blowing the whistle.
If TSA fires them, TSA looks bad and the agent gets unemployment.

If they quit, the job goes to someone without a conscious and the agent loses all benefits.

Quitting is for losers


32 posted on 11/28/2010 4:35:49 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: MsLady

I really think dissent in the ranks would bring about change faster than us peons complaining.


33 posted on 11/28/2010 4:38:27 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Jubal Harshaw

Amen to that!!!! Has to be diffcult and it makes me wonder. Did the government hire these people at a good hourly rate knowing that they would be doing this at some point. Once your working, making good money, knowing your not trained to do much of anything else but, work at wal-mart, it would be very difficult. I could see where you would feel trapped. This is when you rely on God as your source and quit or refuse to do the illegal, immoral things they are asking you to do. You know who hard it is to fire a federal employee? Takes months.


34 posted on 11/28/2010 4:38:27 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: mylife

I agree, and this would be the way to go. I would think. Takes a lot to fire a federal employee.


35 posted on 11/28/2010 4:39:57 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

Remember how the Libs all screamed about how intrusive the Patriot Act was?

For looking at your library card.


36 posted on 11/28/2010 4:41:23 PM PST by JohnnyP
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Remember how the Libs all screamed about how intrusive the Patriot Act was?

For looking at your library card.


37 posted on 11/28/2010 4:41:23 PM PST by JohnnyP
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To: FrankR

LoL!!!!


38 posted on 11/28/2010 4:42:07 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: MsLady

The push-back is starting. Believe me, it is.


39 posted on 11/28/2010 4:43:11 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: MsLady

I hope more agents start grumbling.


40 posted on 11/28/2010 4:43:43 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Agreed.


41 posted on 11/28/2010 4:44:22 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: mbravo37
I rather get pat down than have the body scan. The radiation in those are really bad for you. I think any little bit can help with all the crazy terrorist out there.

I fear the erosion of the Constitution more than I will ever fear any terrorist. Terrorists may kill a few... those who take our freedoms get us ALL.

Welcome to FR.

42 posted on 11/28/2010 4:47:24 PM PST by PalmettoMason (It's easy being a menace to society when half the population is happy being sheep.)
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To: mylife

It’s that or Love Field! I usually ride SWA and avoid DFW - and the chronic Delta/American “difficulties”.


43 posted on 11/28/2010 4:51:48 PM PST by troublesome creek
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To: troublesome creek

Yeah, Love Field is a welcome alternative.


44 posted on 11/28/2010 4:53:28 PM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: troublesome creek

Incoming International post Customs TSA checkpoint, sure looks like Idi’s kin and about same attitude. “Get in line CRACKER”!


45 posted on 11/28/2010 4:53:28 PM PST by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: MsLady

Wonder if he was or will be fired.


46 posted on 11/28/2010 4:56:11 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: MsLady

Since they have yet to catch a terrorist maybe they should reevaluate what they are doing.


47 posted on 11/28/2010 4:57:47 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Slings and Arrows

Thanks for the chuckle!


48 posted on 11/28/2010 4:59:06 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: MsLady

Then where is the spine of the TSA Agents? Why are they not en masse saying this is wrong? Talk is cheap.


49 posted on 11/28/2010 5:00:59 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: mylife

Just like the Air Marshals complaining they have to dress in Business Formal even on holidays where they stick out like a sore thumb !

> I really think dissent in the ranks would bring about change faster than us peons complaining.


50 posted on 11/28/2010 5:04:56 PM PST by CORedneck
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