Skip to comments.Author on Fox News: Obama's Grandmother Said Barack was born in Mombasa, Kenya
Posted on 11/29/2010 11:40:47 AM PST by RobinMasters
Watch how fast the Fox puppets change the subject. What are they so afraid of ?
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"Anabaptist Bishop" Ron McRae had a radio interview with Sarah Obama. She is supposed to have said in her native language that she was there when he was born, but the interview is so confused that it's hard to say what was going on and who she was talking about, especially if you don't understand the Lao language.
McRae confused things further asking her if he was born in the village or born in Mombasa, which is on the other side of the country. By this point there was so much uproar in the household that it's even harder to figure out just what she said or wanted to say.
Somehow this is taken as her saying that Obama was born in the village, but also that he was born in Mombasa, hundreds of miles away. Both couldn't be true, and the evidence for either is pretty slim.
About the account you relate: When you can put a name to it, and there's somebody around who can say "Are you calling me a liar?" it's hard to know how to respond, but if you saw something in print with as little evidence as that, would you accept it as true?
You didn’t read my post did you? I SAID that while the article translates (or the translator-because she didn’t speak English) to read “the POTUS passed through my hands...” did the translator TRANSLATE “even Barack Obama passed through my hands” meaning his father.
But take questionable quotes/translation as fact, whatever
I prefer to take the birther movement to a more factual leaning.
Obama is a usurper so Biden his choice is disqualified too along with all of their decisions. What has happened already cannot be changed such as all the money already spent but every other law, Presidential proclamation, treaty etc. is immediately rescinded. For the time being the Speaker of the House becomes President.
This is a published article, linked and quoted. I did not read your “post”, would you care to link it?
The article I quoted and linked is in English. It’s an African online newspaper. They do speak English in Africa because many of the countries were British colonies and business is done in English. Kenya in particular.
What makes the article “questionable?” Where is your evidence of any “translation” versus the article being written and published in English?
There was no confusion in the quote. Even the US president seems clear to me. It’s a QUOTE, so unless this journalist is sloppy, how would Sarah mistake BHO Senior for the “US president?”
Biden ran as the VP candidate in ‘08. He was elected. It doesn’t matter WHO chose him to be that candidate.
Biden is first in the line of succession. Obama’s being declared ineligible and a usurper would fit in the category of ‘unable or unfit’ to serve. The constitutionally established succession would kick in. There is no question about Biden’s eligibility to serve as VPOTUS under the Constitution. If, on the very long shot, Obama were removed from Office, Biden would take his place constitutionally.
He was not elected separately. He came in the package and the package is denied. If he for some unlawful reason did become President he would be a laughing stock. It would be like putting two stakes into the heart of the Democrats.
Please note my comment to autumnraine on the subject of Sarah stating that the president passed through her hands: comment 61.
I didn’t say that Bien ran separately, but he did run for the Office of VPOTUS and there are laws in place for such contingencies as the removal of the POTUS or POTUS-elect. The disqualification of Obama on eligibility ground would not affect Biden’s having been elected. Only one person in that scenario would be denied, not ‘the package.’
Let’s leave Obama and Biden out of this. It’s 2032 and the Jones/Smith ticket wins the majority of electoral votes. They’re certified by the electoral college and the Congress in early December. Jones dies in late December of ‘32. Smith would be installed as POTUS on 1/20/33.
Folks have to know when they vote in a presidential election that #2 on the ticket could step in as POTUS at any moment. They certainly knew that about Sarah Palin. If they weren’t paying attention to Joe Biden, that’s just too bad. They weren’t paying quite enough attention to Obama, either.
Now, you may not like the individuals, but the succession policy is designed to provide stability in a time of crisis. There’s always another election.
Yes, WND has it wrong.
WA state Calendar for School Year
for the fall quarter 1961 for which Dunham was enrolled,
indicating classes at the university began Sept. 25, 1961:
From my understanding there are (surely discreet!) witnesses with signed affidavits submitted in court that were present when Zero as Senator mentioned being born in Kenya.
In addition, while debating I’ve seen and copied deep in the comment bowels of this youtube video which made headlines,
one DrWizardMan (user no longer exists, can’t imagine why)
who made these comments:
“I met Obama in Chicago in the early 2000s, while he was still a state senator. I was discussing some issues and mentioned my sister’s husband is from a native Kenyan; he laughed and mentioned how he was born there, as well.
I don’t dislike this man, in fact he’s doing a pretty good job as president, but it’s pretty obvious he’s lying about his birth certificate.”
Thank you - I remember a lot of discussion about this very point a long time ago.
Thanks. I remember reading that. She didn’t say “Barak 0bama passed through my heads”, she said “the US President passed through my hands”.
There are only two ways to look at it - she was telling the truth, or lying.
There are certainly exceptions, but I believe in most instances this is not the case.
One more point. Obama had brought this all on himself. All he has to do is produce a real birth certificate and unseal his record. However, I know he will not.
Like anyone with 10 watts of brain power know... Obama obviously has something to hide, or he would not have sealed it. End of story. It’s a no brainier.
Firstly, this information would be in paper records, as there were not computerized records at that time. Those papers would be stored in boxes, if they are even still retained. Hawaii state law only requires retaining records for 7 years. In some circumstances more, but the most would be 25 years after the last data entry, or after a minor attains majority. In either case, they may not still have them.)
Where do hospitals store boxes of records? Not in expensive and valuable hospital space. Most hospitals contract with a secure records company, such as Iron Mountain, or Access to store records offsite. Those records cannot be easily accessed - one has to request access, and have an authorized person sign off on the request.
Finally, anyone giving out information is liable for a large fine or a prison sentence.
Earth Frisk is going to have to back up those claims to be believable. They haven't done that.
See my reply to Patriot08, post #135
The succession is the least problem. The real problem is everything thing he has done while in office, good, bad or indifferent becomes null and void.
Upthread somewhere I said that in the theoretical situation where Biden would be installed as POTUS that his first action most likely would be to affirm everything that Obama had done while he was President. (good, bad, indifferent)
It would be along the lines of Ford pardoning Nixon. For the stability of the country it had to be done, regardless of how folks felt about it, and Ford DID pay the price. Succession is in place to assure that the removal of one person from the Office of POTUS results in the most stable environment during a time of crisis.
Regardless of what anyone may think of Obama, his removal from office would be a crisis situation. Our form of government allows always for the smoothest possible transition of presidential power. “The King is dead, long live the King” is one important tradition the Founders took from England. And that is a good thing.
Now, about these darn newspaper announcements and the Birth Certificate. Folks have it bass ackwards. No one has to put them in the paper. Newspapers in ye olden days merely got the files from the office that issued birth certificates. You know, like the one-liner obituary list?
In the Holy Era of Blesséd Obama's Birth (HEBOOB) an Hawaiian birth certificate was a far less reliable document than an Hawaiian car title, or dog license. Anyone could get one (the Birth Certificate, that is) by claiming that, "little Won Hung Lo was born to my daughter in my house at 1313 Blueview Terrace, Honolulu at 12:00 PM on the 4th of July, 1961 with me and the wife as witnesses."
"Why thanks Granpa Lo! Here's your genuine Hawaiian Birth Certificate."
Of course, little Won Hung Lo was already three years old and had been born in Manila. No problem.
Very common situation at the time. Won Hung Lo has a perfectly good official Hawaiian Birth certificate, and so by golly does Barack Obama. Probably. As in the case of little Won Hung Lo, nobody can now prove fraud, because everyone who committed it, is dead.
So Obama's Birth Certificate is probably going to say "Hawaii." IMNSHO, There's gotta be something else on that BC that is an "embarrassment" to Bill Ayers' buddy and that could harm sales of Bill Ayers' masterpiece of hagiographic creative writing, "Dreams of My Father," which as it turns out, has many a true word in it: among them, "and," "the," "but," and dozens more.
Keep up the pressure, my teamates. But let's not go tinfoil and expect to get the guy out before 2012. This was a well planned coup and all we can do is damage control.
That is not to say some massive scandal will not blow him out There's no lack of those hidden IEDs out there, from the gay bathouse membership, to the Blago Revelations, and beyond. But there, we're talking Hope and Change.
The birth announcements really don’t seem like they came from a list put out by the HDOH. Too much difference between the lists in the different papers, with names showing up weeks apart and some showing up in only one of the 2 papers. The accounts given by alleged witnesses to the process in 1961 differ on critical points. The retention schedules and Administrative Rules don’t allow for newspaper lists until 1978. HDOH responses seem to confirm that they didn’t have any lists in 1961.
There are other problems with the announcements that were posted online as well, indicating that the microfilms were changed out at least once and in a couple libraries at least twice. Scratch lines that disappeared over time, pristine copies coming from library archives that the librarian accurately said were nearly unreadable, “close-ups” that have different markings than the whole-page view, etc.
There is not a doubt in my mind that the newspaper announcements were forged. Which proves nothing from a legal standpoint but does show how far Obama was willing to go in his desperation to have something credible, when he could have just consented to have the HDOH disclose his BC.
Official communications from the HDOH indicate that Obama does have a BC and either it or the supplemental affidavits claim he was born in Hawaii. But that BC isn’t legally valid because it was amended in 2006. My best guess based on HDOH responses is that the HI BC was only COMPLETED in 2006 - probably to add a birth weight, which Madelyn Dunham had no documentation for when she reported the birth to the local registrar and which the parents had 30 days to document through a HI doctor examining the baby.
The HDOH has indirectly confirmed in 2 different ways now that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery. His real BC probably makes the same claims as on Factcheck but the reason Obama forged a document is because the genuine COLB would note the amendment in 2006 and would make it obvious that the BC is not legally valid.
But anything we conclude based on the HDOH communications depends on whether they’ve been honest at all, which isn’t a given, based on my experiences with them. That’s why what I really, really want is a legal investigation. There are more than enough discrepancies and laws/rules broken to justify - and actually DEMAND - an investigation.