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Freep this Poll: Mitt Romney vs. Sarah Palin: Who do you like in 2012?
Boston Herald ^ | November 30, 2010 | Hillary Chabot

Posted on 11/30/2010 7:29:19 AM PST by Josh Painter

38% - Strong-jawed Romney.

17% - Tough-talking Palin.

27% - A third choice, please.

18% - Give it up, GOP, Obama’s staying.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: barackobama; chat; freep; freepthispoll; mittromney; other; poll; sarahpalin
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To: trisham

Sorry, I don’t know why everything is double and triple posting.


151 posted on 11/30/2010 11:05:25 AM PST by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: Military family member

I think most of us have done it at least four or five times. :)


152 posted on 11/30/2010 11:09:03 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Vendome
Sorry, but to what rules are you specifically alluding to?

http://www.freerepublic.com/home.htm

If you scroll down about three quarters of the way you will find a definition of the purpose of this site and what is and isn't expected in terms of behavior and viewpoints in this community.

Free Republic isn't a liberal debating society, it is a community of FRiends gathered to help promote the Conservative movement. This is what differentiates it from other websites and why it is so influential. It is a good read and something to definitely keep in mind when posting, especially if you feel like flaming somebody, either a FReeper or a good conservative politician.

Sure there are disagreements between FRiends, but we don't hammer on each other or those on our team. That is counterproductive and downright unFRiendly. (RINOs and libs we hammer on ;0)

153 posted on 11/30/2010 11:23:16 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: ansel12

Thanks for this background info. This guy was seriously getting on my nerves. I took a break. This doesn’t usually happen. Life’s too short, etc...

He seems to have quieted down. Let’s hope he stays that way.


154 posted on 11/30/2010 11:26:14 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: paulycy; warchild9

It’s still a debating society. Just roll with it.

If the boss had a problem with warchild9 ZOT would have ensued a long, long time ago.

Post on.


155 posted on 11/30/2010 11:39:14 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
It’s still a debating society. Just roll with it.

Within limits and within the goals of the site. I've learned this in my (relatively) short time here. Jim has a way of letting people know when they've crossed the line. They shape up or ship out, regardless of how long they've been here.

156 posted on 11/30/2010 11:48:50 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: paulycy; Vendome

Actually, I believe that Jim has specifically addressed this issue.

http://www.freerepublic.com/^http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2627138/posts


157 posted on 11/30/2010 12:01:27 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Actually, I believe that Jim has specifically addressed this issue.

Yes, good point. And wc's second amendment views were... interesting... too.

Calling everyone here gay hating bible thumpers - including JimRob - doesn't necessarily fall under the category of civil debate in my book.

158 posted on 11/30/2010 12:07:00 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: Diogenesis

But once again, how much power does the VP really have? None. He would be on the ticket simply to attract ‘moderate’ and independent votes.


159 posted on 11/30/2010 12:08:59 PM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat. (AKA The Pope's Hat))
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To: Josh Painter; dynachrome

31% - RINO, pro-abortion Romney.

37% - Tough-talking Palin.

19% - Huh?.

13% - Give it up, GOP, I’m delusional and think Obama’s staying.

Total Votes: 1,840


160 posted on 11/30/2010 12:10:45 PM PST by TheOldLady (The only way to run our country is conservatively.)
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To: paulycy; Vendome

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2627159/posts?page=262#262

To: Monorprise
No thank you. FR is not a debating society. Our unalienable rights are not subject to debate and are NOT negotiable.
Those who do not understand this fundamental truth or are unwilling to defend it to the death can KMA on the way out the door!!

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

262 posted on November 15, 2010 6:20:43 PM EST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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161 posted on 11/30/2010 12:14:54 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: paulycy

Agreed.


162 posted on 11/30/2010 12:15:33 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)

Bravo. Thanks for the post.

163 posted on 11/30/2010 12:23:46 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: paulycy

Thank Jim. :)


164 posted on 11/30/2010 12:25:18 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
Thank Jim. :)

Oh, I thank Jim alright, and I believe I posted when he originally posted that thread.

I thank you for following up on this particular thread. A lot of current FReepers kinda don't get it. It helps a lot to keep reminding them. I appreciate your post a great deal, FRiend.

165 posted on 11/30/2010 12:33:48 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: paulycy

Thank you. You’re right-it seems that too few of us have read Jim’s statements regarding this site. It should be very clear what his goals are here, as he’s certainly made every effort to educate us.


166 posted on 11/30/2010 12:41:15 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Josh Painter
I'd vote for Sarah Palin before I'd vote for Mitt...

I'd even vote for Bristol Palin before I would vote for Mitt...

In fact, I'd vote for Levi Johnston before I would vote for Mitt...

167 posted on 11/30/2010 12:45:13 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: trisham
It should be very clear what his goals are here, as he’s certainly made every effort to educate us.

For obvious reasons I only make a stink in extreme cases but today qualifies in my book. The constant trashing of Sarah with nothing positive said about any other conservative is simply destructive with no benefit to the conservative movement or to FR whatsoever. That has to stop IMO.

We need to talk about ALL the potential candidates' positives and negatives. We don't know what's going to happen. We can trash RINOs and libs. But allowing ANYBODY to just tear down good conservatives for no good reason has to be fought against. That's not what Free Republic is all about.

168 posted on 11/30/2010 12:48:06 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: paulycy
For obvious reasons I only make a stink in extreme cases but today qualifies in my book. The constant trashing of Sarah with nothing positive said about any other conservative is simply destructive with no benefit to the conservative movement or to FR whatsoever. That has to stop IMO.

We need to talk about ALL the potential candidates' positives and negatives. We don't know what's going to happen. We can trash RINOs and libs. But allowing ANYBODY to just tear down good conservatives for no good reason has to be fought against. That's not what Free Republic is all about.

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I could not agree more. I'm very concerned about this issue. We have two short years before the 2012 election, and we need to build on our mid-term successes, but there seems to be a vocal group whose goal seems otherwise.

169 posted on 11/30/2010 12:55:34 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
there seems to be a vocal group whose goal seems otherwise.

There is a lot of grumbling about this issue going on. Maybe if we

1) continue to ask about who the bashers positively support

2) start a ping list for positive candidate support (or somesuch) so that we can get backup like you provided me today (that was really helpful.)

3) complain just a bit more about the more serious bashers...

I don't know. I've never kept a ping list and I don't want to seem like a vigilante jerk. But this is a serious issue. Do you like any of these ideas? Do you know how to do a ping list?

170 posted on 11/30/2010 1:05:30 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: Josh Painter

31% - Strong-jawed Romney.

36% - Tough-talking Palin.

20% - A third choice, please.

13% - Give it up, GOP, Obama’s staying.


171 posted on 11/30/2010 1:20:43 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: paulycy; All

I like ping lists for those of us who have mutual goals. They can be extremely useful, both as sources of information, and to alert their members to problems and issues that should be addressed.

I’ve never done a ping list, but perhaps someone on this thread can help.


172 posted on 11/30/2010 2:06:48 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Celtic Cross
Celtic Cross: (RomneyBOT):
"how much power does the VP really have? None. He would be on the ticket simply to attract ‘moderate’ and independent votes."

Actually, Romney would drive voters away.
But, Romney is also not qualified, not eligible,
and has shown he is a backstabber.
Other than he is a dog abuser who makes great fake badges,
what is his qualification?


173 posted on 11/30/2010 2:19:59 PM PST by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: trisham
I’ve never done a ping list, but perhaps someone on this thread can help.

I'm glad I didn't scare you off! :0)

We'll see if we can fight this. There are a lot of FReepers that care about the direction of this site and hate all the non-constructive bashing. It'll come around.

174 posted on 11/30/2010 2:21:52 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: paulycy; onyx

That sounds good to me. :) I do think that a ping list is a great idea. Onyx has a Palin ping list, but a list that responds specifically to Palin (and perhaps other conservatives) bashing might be a very useful effort.


175 posted on 11/30/2010 2:27:28 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Josh Painter

No, to both of them. I like West, Pence, Demint.


176 posted on 11/30/2010 2:28:32 PM PST by seoul62
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Freep this poll! Freep this poll! Freep this poll!
Herald Pulse
Mitt Romney vs. Sarah Palin: Who do you like in 2012?

31% - Strong-jawed Romney.

36% - Tough-talking Palin.

20% - A third choice, please.

13% - Give it up, GOP, Obama’s staying.
Total Votes: 2,149


177 posted on 11/30/2010 2:52:19 PM PST by Bellflower (All meaning is in The LORD.)
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To: trisham; paulycy

Oh, okay then.

Free Republic is a posting society.


178 posted on 11/30/2010 2:53:09 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Josh Painter

Please Dear LORD, save us from Romney! In Jesus Holy Name.


179 posted on 11/30/2010 2:54:34 PM PST by Bellflower (All meaning is in The LORD.)
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To: trisham

Didn’t we vote ZOT on Monoprise?


180 posted on 11/30/2010 2:56:24 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
Oh, okay then. Free Republic is a posting society.

Strategic discussions among team members is different from fundamental debate between antagonists.

But I think you know that already.

There is plenty of room for disagreement. But the point is not to simply disagree, but to further the Constitutional conservative movement. Rancorous, pointless bashing of the people on our own team doesn't help. In fact, it is counter-productive and effects the thousands of people who simply lurk and learn rather than participate in the forum.

But I think you know this already, too.

181 posted on 11/30/2010 3:00:08 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: Vendome

Oy vey. It’s not a posting society. This is from the home page:

Welcome to Free Republic!
Free Republic is the premier online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We’re working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America. And we always have fun doing it. Hoo-yah!


182 posted on 11/30/2010 3:01:10 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Vendome

We did?


183 posted on 11/30/2010 3:01:59 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Josh Painter

C’mon Freepers ! Push it up !

Mitt Romney vs. Sarah Palin: Who do you like in 2012?

31% - Strong-jawed Romney.

36% - Tough-talking Palin.

20% - A third choice, please.

13% - Give it up, GOP, Obama’s staying.

Total Votes: 2,222


184 posted on 11/30/2010 3:03:11 PM PST by jimt
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To: paulycy; Vendome

Well said.


185 posted on 11/30/2010 3:05:44 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: paulycy

I am still not getting where this is all coming from.

You act like I am supporting some liberal cause and for the life of me I have no idea what the context of these post are but, I can go on all day just being contrarian.

Are you using the Mission Statement to quell discussion so you can get your supposed way by suppression and what exactly do you disagree with?


186 posted on 11/30/2010 3:07:20 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: trisham

My Gawd, if you just wanna pick and choose:

“Free Republic is a site dedicated to the concerns of traditional grassroots conservative activists. We’re here to discuss and advance our conservative causes in a more or less liberal-free environment. We’re not here to debate liberals. We do not want our pages filled with their arrogant, obnoxious, repugnant bile. Liberals, usurpers, and other assorted malcontents are considered unwelcome trolls on FR and their accounts and or posts will be summarily dismissed at the convenience of the site administrators.”

What is your point anyway? Are seeking to supprese thought of anyone you disagree with and what exactly do you disagree with that started all this?

It might take me a while but I could zip back through some posts of JR we do in fact become stronger through debate. Not that we need him to tell us that, it is a fact but he made clear to some nOOb in the last week or two that we do argue among ourselves but it isn’t personal.

And I am still trying to recall what the subject matter of my posts or the genesis, if you will, that is such a problem for you and paulcy.


187 posted on 11/30/2010 3:11:39 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: trisham

I thought we did. Hang on.


188 posted on 11/30/2010 3:12:10 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome

You are not the target. I am not sure why you think you are, if you do. I have no issue with you. You joined the discussion and I answered your questions. Earlier in the thread there was a poster named wtc911 (I think) that went, IMO and others, way overboard. We were discussing those posts.

Sorry if we were talking past each other. No offense meant. We are just discussing the general principles of the forum that Jim Rob is trying to make clear on a more and more frequent basis, and that a lot of us agree is necessary.

There is so much conservative bashing, typically but not limited to Sarah Palin, that some of us want to offer resistance to it. That’s what the talk of a ping list is about.

Again, I didn’t mean to make you feel as though you were under attack or anything, FRiend.


189 posted on 11/30/2010 3:16:30 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: Vendome
What is your point anyway? Are seeking to supprese thought of anyone you disagree with and what exactly do you disagree with that started all this?

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You may think anything that you like. Although some may believe otherwise, I have no ability to control anyone's thoughts. You may discuss anything that you like with your friends and relatives.

My point is that this site has a goal as expressed by Jim Robinson's mission statement and subsequent threads. This is not a "debate society", according to Jim, if I understand him correctly, and if I understand Jim's posts correctly, this site is intended to promote conservative candidates and issues.

190 posted on 11/30/2010 3:20:22 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: paulycy; Vendome

Well said.


191 posted on 11/30/2010 3:21:35 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: paulycy; trisham

Dear Gawd. I am so wetahded.

I had to step away and make a sale and just those 4 hours made me lost track.

I have no idea what I am talking about. Can we skip it?

Usually, I make my mistakes around Thursday or Friday.

Oh well, good to get them out of the way first thing.

Vendome:

I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....
I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....
I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....
I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....
I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....
I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....
I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....
I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....
I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....
I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....
...............................................................

See my follow up post. You might want to go back through the thread just for laughs.

paulcy even had a few jabs at Monoprise.


192 posted on 11/30/2010 3:26:51 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: paulycy; trisham
I remember what it was.  That moron wrote this bit of heady advice to JR and my first thought was "ZOT the Tard"  "Yuh duhnn made dah Gawhds Angry!"
 
To: Jim Robinson

It is unwise to excused folk that disagree with us on any issue.

We gain nothing from our experience on this form if we cannot test our ideas against those who disagree with em. Nor are our ideas worth anything if they cannot withstand endless challenge from every direction.

I must advice strongly that you allow liberals even socialist to post on this web-sight at least in them sections which are open to debate, rather then planning real world activity.

259 posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 3:11:50 PM by Monorprise
 
And then he just wouldn't shut up.  LOL
 
I swear to God he was so stoopid I was laughing my butt-ocks off everytime he posted.  It got funnier from there and JR had me howling.  My good friend DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis called the first ZOT and I followed with:
 
 

To: Monorprise; Jim Robinson; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis; darkwing104; Old Sarge; 50mm; Viking2002; ...
 
Uh, yeah....
 
 
Frickin Dork
 
You don't argue with the Boss Man
 
Can't possibly end well.
 
IBTZ

287 posted on Monday, November 15, 2010 4:15:34 PM by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
 
I am going to go read that thread again just for laughs.  Too funny!!!!

193 posted on 11/30/2010 3:27:36 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: ansel12

Wow, very telling posts!

How did you find them from so many years ago?


194 posted on 11/30/2010 3:30:02 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Vendome; paulycy

No problem, FRiend. :)


195 posted on 11/30/2010 3:30:14 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Vendome
America is suffering 'death by a thousand cuts' and we should know that losing the Presidency for a second term to committed Communists will be the most damning cut of all. If we can spare ourselves; if only by a thousand band-aids/increments; then believe, that is what we do.

Personally do not anticipate such desperate decisions ahead for Repubs; certainly hope/pray not. We have some good, capable possibilities of which Sarah is one. Mitt would never be my choice; but if these Repubs pull him out of the hat - in spite - will vote nonetheless; but not happily. Do hope they are smarter than this.

. (There are, of course, many strange bed 'combos' in politics; Sarah offering that she would be happy to be Mitt's VP; one of the more strange; but she did ride in with McCain, so who knows. . .)

Whatever, the Commies must go! And then the RINO'S; should there be any left.

196 posted on 11/30/2010 3:31:21 PM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . .and Obama, not made in the USA either. . .)
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To: Vendome

Heh. :)


197 posted on 11/30/2010 3:32:03 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: cricket

Totally agree but I will not support some country club shill either.

If McCain hadn’t picked Sarah he would have gone down as a laughing stock and Fauxbama would have won in a landslide that would have made even my jaw drop and I damn sure don’t want to see that BS again.


198 posted on 11/30/2010 3:45:18 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
I will not be a dork for the rest of the week....

If I had to pay one penny for every time I got confused I'd owe almost as much as 0bama has gotten us into debt, FRiend..... LOL!

199 posted on 11/30/2010 3:46:56 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: Josh Painter

Mittard Romney winning in Boston is like Mao winning a chicom politburo popularity contest.

The guy’s a fag.


200 posted on 11/30/2010 3:52:56 PM PST by InternetTuffGuy
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