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Hate under cloak of religion (yes, it is a barf alert)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 12/1/2010 | Tim Rutton

Posted on 12/01/2010 2:21:34 PM PST by markomalley

The Southern Poverty Law Center is an organization with deep roots in the civil rights movement. Its ingenious lawsuits helped break the back of the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist factions, and in recent years, it has joined the Anti-Defamation League as a reliable monitor of hate groups.

The Family Research Council is an influential Washington-based advocacy group with deep roots in the religious right. Its annual political forum, the Values Voter Summit, has become a nearly obligatory stop for ambitious Republican office-seekers hoping to win the support of so-called values voters. In recent years, the council has given an increasing share of its attention to opposing marriage equality and open military service by gays and lesbians.

Now, the two groups are locked in a sharp confrontation that raises crucial questions about where the expression of religiously based views on social issues ends and hate speech begins.

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Last week, the law center added the Family Research Council to its list of more than 930 active hate groups, citing the anti-gay rhetoric of its leaders and researchers, which have included calls to re-criminalize consensual sex between individuals of the same gender. The Southern Poverty Law Center defines a hate group as one with "beliefs or practices that attack or malign an entire class of people, typically for their immutable characteristics."

The council's president, former Louisiana lawmaker Tony Perkins, reacted angrily to the designation, calling it "slanderous" and demanding an apology. "The left is losing the debate over ideas and the direction of public policy, so all that is left for them is character assassination," ...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: frc; homonaziagenda; homonazism; homosexualagenda; liberalbigots; mediabias; splc
And now that the SPLC has declared the FRC a hate group, I will imagine that web filters all over the Internet will be tuned to disallow all contact with that web site. Employees associating with it will be disciplined. IRS tax deductions will be disallowed.
1 posted on 12/01/2010 2:21:35 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

From the headline at first I thought it was about Colofornian’s Cult.


2 posted on 12/01/2010 2:24:20 PM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: markomalley

Oh, I get it...

so they just want to advance the homosexual agenda.
Understood.

Anyone that opposes promoting a sexually deviant, psychologically disordered and unhealthy lifestyle is a “hater”.


3 posted on 12/01/2010 2:26:52 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: markomalley

At first I thought this article was about islam which would make the headline absolutely true. Boy was I wrong! You are right. Barf.


4 posted on 12/01/2010 2:27:25 PM PST by MestaMachine (The headline made me)
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To: markomalley

More BS smothered in Wrong Sauce.


5 posted on 12/01/2010 2:30:52 PM PST by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: PATRIOT1876

Google “Knights of Columbus Hate Group” and look for the usual suspects.


6 posted on 12/01/2010 2:40:02 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: markomalley
Hate under cloak of religion

Does he mean the ADL?
7 posted on 12/01/2010 2:42:40 PM PST by ruination
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To: markomalley
“..Its ingenious lawsuits helped break the back of the Ku Klux Klan and other white supremacist factions,..”

I believe the record will show the FBI with the help of informants who penetrated their inner councils and then some “ingenious” prosecution by the DOJ destroyed the hate groups mentioned.

8 posted on 12/01/2010 2:43:40 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: markomalley

The Southern Poverty Law Center is now little more then a hate group itself. It goes against anyone that stands in the way of the homoagenda, the communist agenda and anything that stands for America..


9 posted on 12/01/2010 2:47:15 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: markomalley
They forgot to mention that this only applies to WHITE Christians...the entire civil rights movement had it's "roots" in American's churches.

Oh, and don't forget Reverend Wright...don't forget Reverend Wright.

The racebaiters haven't had any luck branding the TEA party as racists, or the Republicans...so now they want to call all Christians bigots...interesting, especially when these "bigots" go and vote in 2012 and cut off your funding.
10 posted on 12/01/2010 2:48:35 PM PST by FrankR (Don't let the bastards wear you down!)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
The problem with the group is they outlived their original purpose - but wanted to maintain their power. A paradigm Martin Buber deems ‘evil’... I believe they're becoming a hate group too - they work against ANYONE who's conservative. They paint with too broad a brush and they're stuck in mindsets that are 50 years old. They were also instrumental in the ‘vast right wing conspiracy’ attempted power grab.

I don't see any reason to give them legitimacy by posting their hatred of all things 'not liberal' here...

11 posted on 12/01/2010 2:56:06 PM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: markomalley
Last week, the law center added the Family Research Council to its list of more than 930 active hate groups

The LA Times is smug in the elevation and promotion of the SPLC to the:

Department of the Politically Correct

Great! A fringe left wing organization gets to define and frame what "hate" is. From this point on the arguement will have to be within THEIR framework.

If the FRC called for the killing of homosexuals, the SPLC might have a leg to stand on.

12 posted on 12/01/2010 2:57:31 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (The greatest deterrent to liberalism is sunlight.)
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To: markomalley

It’s why the LA times adorns the bottom of so many birdcages.


13 posted on 12/01/2010 3:07:56 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: markomalley
The SPLC is a business run for the benefit of Morris Dees.

While technically a non-profit in a corporate sense, it is extremely profitable for Mr. Dees.

He hires starry-eyed young lawyers with a yearning for "social justice", pays them next to nothing to work long hours in pursuit of all kinds of legal actions for which the SPLC gets paid substantial legal fees.

The SPLC also collects huge donations, even though it has $175 million in unspent funds.

14 posted on 12/01/2010 3:18:32 PM PST by wideawake
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To: GOPJ
The problem with the group is they outlived their original purpose

They had no original purpose other than to create a political platform for Julian Bond.

The SPLC was founded in 1971 - after all the milestones of the Civil Rights movement were historical facts. They were basically a liberal think tank in the beginning.

They didn't file their first anti-Klan lawsuit until 1979 when Dees and Levin realized how much money there was to be made in tort law.

15 posted on 12/01/2010 3:31:49 PM PST by wideawake
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“The Southern Poverty Law Center is now little more then a hate group itself.”

The Southern Poverty Law Center is a great big hate group. It hates anyone or anything that’s not communist, fascist or a politically correct kind of racist. Furthermore, it has credibility only with fellow communists, fascists and racists. If the date was 1940, Morris Dees would be on a streetcorner singing love songs to Hitler.

Did I miss anything?


16 posted on 12/01/2010 3:42:31 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: markomalley
...which have included calls to re-criminalize consensual sex between individuals of the same gender.

Do they mean, like, between Democrats and pigs?

I think that the guy that runs the SPLC, his grandfather or great-grandfather was a slave owner.

17 posted on 12/01/2010 3:52:57 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's black and white and red all over? HINT: Think White House)
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To: markomalley
stooopid me... i thought it was about the goathumpers
18 posted on 12/01/2010 3:59:24 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: markomalley

Back when Taco Bill Run for the Border Bill Clinton was
proving he was the Dems “unusually good liar” I took up interest in the “unorganized Militia” movement that seemed to
bother the President then. I bought a book with the name name of Morris Dees on the cover-expecting leftist fecal material and ended up tossing it in a trash can because the LIES and distortions about the Patriots who generally make up the
modern Militia movement —the LIES were too much to handle.
Morris Dees is one person-other than Obama That would necessarily have to come with full police escort-or an ambulance on call.I feel that strongly about the fecal headed LIAR.


19 posted on 12/01/2010 4:07:59 PM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: ruination

He even forgot to put the Numba One HATE group on his list- SPLC. And I did not see the DNC— or the ACLU listed either—not to leave out P (on the) Flag.ANd please do not forget Planned Parenthood


20 posted on 12/01/2010 4:11:38 PM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: wideawake
The SPLC was founded in 1971 - after all the milestones of the Civil Rights movement were historical facts. They were basically a liberal think tank in the beginning. They didn't file their first anti-Klan lawsuit until 1979 when Dees and Levin realized how much money there was to be made in tort law.

I assumed they had been active when "active" was dangerous - that usually elicits some respect on my part - but '71? That's a joke. Thanks for clearing this up. (In the 60's Bond did his part - I'll give him that...)

21 posted on 12/01/2010 8:06:51 PM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: GOPJ
According to their most recent financial report, they have $189 million in funds, raised $31 million in 2009 and spent approximately $4 million on "management".

They have 18 full-time employees. That works out to $205,000 per employee - but only five or six are lawyers, and non-profit lawyers in the rural South probably do not get paid more than $60-70K. Likely less.

I'm guessing the whole payroll - not including Dees and one or two top-ranked buddies - is significantly less than $1 million.

That leaves upward of $3 million, the lion's share of which likely goes to Dees.

And I highly doubt that his meals, his travels, his car, his medical expenses or pretty much anything else is not expensed to the SPLC.

He is living the high life, funded by donations - and a large chunk of those donations probably come from poor, working class churchgoing African-American ladies from the deep South who respond generously to his inflammatory mailers.

22 posted on 12/02/2010 11:08:17 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
He is living the high life, funded by donations - and a large chunk of those donations probably come from poor, working class churchgoing African-American ladies from the deep South who respond generously to his inflammatory mailers.

That's sad. SNCC (Snick) provided valuable contributions to the civil rights movement - this stuff trashes that legacy. Dreadful.

My concern is about their political 'take'... and I don't mean opinion. Before Hillary did her wonderful slip about the 'vast right wing conspiracy' the Southern Poverty Law Center was working with groups giving seminars to police officers ( Top Cops ) explaining that 'the enemy' was right wingers - middle-class, middle aged white men who used words like 'constitution ... they told police officers that the right wingers moved up the organizational ladder by killing police officers. Now of course on the surface it looked a little silly - when a police officer is murdered, EVERYONE - the press, citizens - everyone - knows about it - and there are public hunts for the killer - and thousands attend the funeral.

It's not a private affair.

Also the MSM covers stories of cops being killed. So IF this was happening - random murders of police officers - the information would be out there. And it wasn't. Because it wasn't happenign. That didn't stop the Southern Poverty Law Center from putting out this lie - and pitting police officers against their most loyal supporters.

It was a beautiful system - people would be afraid to stand up to the rumor - for fear they would be labeled. Also, when it's 'a secret' it isn't looked at too closely. The press - liberal that they are - would have caught the obvious fabrications - and reported on it. Then - thank God, Hillary let it slip and the country started laughing at liberals and their 'black helicopter' stuff - and the crisis ended. Even the MSM said 'where's the proof'. That was the final straw.

But the fact that the SPLC was in on this - the most totalitarian move I've seen in my lifetime - was telling...

23 posted on 12/02/2010 5:06:17 PM PST by GOPJ (Christianity: arm of Judaism bringing pagans and heathens to knowledge of the Hebrew God via Christ.)
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To: GOPJ
The thing is that even the liberal media was on to the SPLC's nonsense: both the Montgomery Advertiser (a reliably liberal Gannett publication in a still reliably Democrat-voting town) and the solidly left Harper's have done exposes on the SPLC as a tax-free cash cow for Dees and his cronies.

The Advertiser story was even nominated for a Pulitzer.

This all happened roughly within the timeframe of Hilary Clinton's on-air meltdown.

24 posted on 12/03/2010 7:12:10 AM PST by wideawake
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To: wideawake
I'm not surprised some journalist went out on a limb and took on a liberal group.

We trash the MSM here - often with good cause - but journalists are not people who lack courage. My favorite story - one expressed in different ways - is that the road is always open for members of the press. As white knuckled citizens are escaping a disaster - bumper to bumper - afraid - the journalist is driving toward it on a road wide open.

The Montgomery Advertiser and Harper's took on the SPLC? And at that critical time? I like that - restores my faith. Thanks for sharing.

25 posted on 12/03/2010 7:53:07 AM PST by GOPJ (Christianity: arm of Judaism bringing pagans and heathens to knowledge of the Hebrew God via Christ.)
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