Skip to comments.Jill Stanek: Graphic abortion ad during the Super Bowl?
Posted on 12/01/2010 4:03:28 PM PST by wagglebee
For only three hours a year do Americans actually look forward to watching commercials rather than ignoring them, muting them or running to the bathroom during them, as we do the other 8,763 hours.
That is during the Super Bowl.
In fact, commercials have become part of the entertainment during football's annual big game, a cultural phenomenon.
So imagine a 30-second Super Bowl ad showing the graphic reality of abortion.
Most Americans, including many pro-lifers, would abhor such an ad.
But pro-life activists like me would be ecstatic, if such a word can be used to describe fulfillment of a passion to see a multitude of people face the truth about abortion. Activists believe that only by understanding the reality of abortion will the culture be wholeheartedly persuaded against it.
And the publicity, oh, the publicity. Recall the controversy surrounding Focus on the Family's pro-life pablum Super Bowl ad featuring Tim Tebow earlier this year. This would be that on gigamegalo-steroids.
And there is a chance such a commercial will air during the 2012 Super Bowl.
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You confrontational attitude and slander is unwarranted. If you wish to be uncivil then I can do that. I give as good as I get.
I do not lie. Nor do I pretend to be on the side of the unborn.
If you wouldn’t want to be confronted, then whey do you think another person would?
Yes, there are ways to present facts/truth that is not confrontational. I am not trying to sugarcoat anything, but merely to get people to see a horrific thing and perhaps change their mind, thereby saving babies.
If you were just standing on the corner, then my comments don’t apply to you. You weren’t hollering. But you’ve seen those that do, and the reaction they garner.
Where does my authority come from? Same as yours, by expressing an opinion. That’s what this site is partially for. I don’t believe that I said the signs didn’t change minds. I said that confrontation doesn’t. Shoving something in someone’s face doesn’t. I changed, just as you did, but it was from critically thinking about the position. Not screaming.
So Ben, what age would you inform children about the existence of abortion? Show graphic pictures to?
I believe I understand your position. Graphic images should not be shown to young children, imho.
13-14. If they are old enough to be getting abortions, they are old enough to see the consequences.
“If you were just standing on the corner, then my comments dont apply to you. You werent hollering. But youve seen those that do, and the reaction they garner.”
No, I haven’t. I haven’t seen anyone holler on the side of the corner. I have see people assaulted, threatened, I’ve seen them tackled and hurt. I’ve seen cars try to back up over us.
But I haven’t seen anyone shout from behind the signs at other people.
“I am not trying to sugarcoat anything, but merely to get people to see a horrific thing and perhaps change their mind, thereby saving babies.”
Which is exactly what we do. Show the truth on abortion, show what abortion really does to an unborn child. That this is controversial and confrontational, shows how far down the other side of the slope we have fallen.
“I changed, just as you did, but it was from critically thinking about the position. Not screaming.”
Well it would do a world of good if you stopped lying about it. We don’t scream. Period. We show the signs. That’s all we do. It’s a confrontational approach because it makes it so that the truth cannot be denied. Many things have been confrontational, including Dr. King’s direct action. That doesn’t mean that the approach is either ineffective or unnecessary simply because it stirs up trouble.
I’m glad to have you on our side, now, please, get on board or stay out of the way. We have enough enemies as it is, we don’t need opposition from our own side.
I will no longer attempt to discuss this subject or any other with you, because I AM NOT A LIAR! You are ill tempered, reactionary, nasty, and unable to civilly engage in discussion.
You should change your screen name, because you aren’t anything like BenKenobi...except maybe fictional. If you are a troll, take a hike. If you’re sincere, then grow up.
If you don’t like my tone, remember what I said in an earlier post to you. I give as good as I get.
HAHAHAHA! Sit down and shut up? No, and it’s funny that in a post last week you asked on what authority did I present my opinion. Now look at you. On what authority do you tell someone to sit down and shut up?
I have my way of changing minds, you have yours. Why are you so threatened. I’ve already had success. I never told you to shut up. You really have alot of gall.
This isn’t about me, or what I’ve done in the past. This is everything about defending the honour of those I care for greatly. Those who have sacrificed and been to hell and back, who top things off with a smile and move on.
You want to persist in the fiction that we shout, fine. But I’m going to make it very clear that it is express policy that this does not happen. Ever. So that the folks at home can get the full picture.
You are on our side, according to you. Now, apparently you aren’t a liar, so I’m supposed to take that at face value.
If you were playing on a team, and you said something nasty about a teammate to the media, what do you think the rest of the team is going to do? You got it right, they are going to stand up for their teammate, even if their teammate is in the wrong. Why? Because there is a time and a place for these things, and this ain’t it.
Answer the question...if you are able. What authority? I took you at face value, but you flamed me and questioned my support for the unborn because I disagree with you. When and where do you think disagreements are supposed to take place?
Ok. One more time. I AM NOT A LIAR. Got it? Why would you think that? I didn’t say anything nasty about someone who wants to save the unborn. I disagree with showing it at the Super Bowl. But you seem unable to understand that. It’s your way or the highway. Well, with maturity would be able to see that there are times when graphics are appropriate and others when they are not. You are the one that is making this personal.
You stated that people who stand outside protesting abortion clinics shout at people. That is the only statement I have contested. My experience in years of working with similar folks is that they do not do this at all.
I’m aware you disagree with the Superbowl broadcast, and that is fine. That is a disagreement over a matter of opinion, over the most effective way to communicate prolife convictions.
I hope this is clearer.
No I did not. I talked about street preachers.
You state that you’re fine with my disagreement over the Superbowl. Funny, but you weren’t fine before. Nastiness and uncivilness is not how I define “fine”. Notice how I didn’t call you a “liar” as you did to me.
Repeatedly I stated that people use different tactics to achieve goal. Until now you were unwilling to acknowledge the validity of that statement. I don’t think this is about “being clear”. I couldn’t have been more clear, and my attempts displayed patience. Perhaps you need to read slower, and critically think about something of which you are sooo passionate about. You don’t even offer an apology. Sad.
Why should I offer an apology when you never retracted your calumny?
Prolifers protesting in front of the clinics do not shout. Simple as that. Until you acknowledge this, and retract your statement, which I notice you’ve been unwilling to do, we will continue to disagree.
Anyways, since I’ve been in charge of one of these demonstrations, I think it would be blindingly obvious that not everyone is cut out for them. People have different talents and different gifts.
Now, this is a two edged sword. I see you don’t like the signs or the pictures, and that is fine. There is no good to come from forcing people to do what they do not wish to do. Better to figure out what you can do to help save babies.
That being said, casting aspersions on those who protest is bad. Doesn’t matter your opinion on the issue you should show respect for those who are willing to do what you cannot. Just as you expect them to show respect for you, in declining to participate.
I’m disappointed, but absolutely zero percent surprised that an ‘ally’ continues to attack prolifers, especially when she gets called out. Far as I’m concerned, you aren’t one of us and won’t ever be.
Well, my patience is spent with you. You’re back to your original tactics. So as the old saying goes, “Sod off swampy”.
No loss there.