Skip to comments.If The NCAA Is Right, Cecil Lied And SEC Cheated
Posted on 12/02/2010 6:44:42 PM PST by Entrepreneur
In the aftermath of the NCAAs decision to clear Cam Newton to play for Auburn, we can now verify two things:
1) On November 5, 2010, Pat Forde, Chris Low and Mark Schlabach of ESPN.com reported the following:
When interviewed by ESPN.com Thursday at the familys home in Atlanta, Cecil Newton, Cams father, denied any wrongdoing.
If Rogers tried to solicit money from Mississippi State, he did it on his own, without our knowledge, Cecil Newton said.
From the NCAAs Wednesday ruling that cleared Cecil Newtons son:
According to facts of the case agreed upon by Auburn University and the NCAA enforcement staff, the student-athletes father and an owner of a scouting service worked together to actively market the student-athlete as a part of a pay-for-play scenario in return for Newtons commitment to attend college and play football. NCAA rules (Bylaw 12.3.3) do not allow individuals or entities to represent a prospective student-athlete for compensation to a school for an athletic scholarship.
Cecil Newton cannot be telling the truth if the NCAA is correct in its statement.
2) SEC Bylaw 14.01.3.2 states:
If at any time before or after matriculation in a member institution a student-athlete or any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference (except such aid or assistance as such student-athlete may receive from those persons on whom the student is naturally or legally dependent for support), such student- athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.
The NCAA ruled Wednesday that, According to facts of the case agreed upon by Auburn University and the NCAA enforcement staff, the student-athletes father and an owner of a scouting service worked together to actively market the student-athlete as a part of a pay-for-play scenario in return for Newtons commitment to attend college and play football.
The SEC bylaw clearly states that if a family member agrees to receive extra benefits from a SEC member institution, as the NCAA reported Wednesday, such student-athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.
By the SECs own rules, Cam Newton is ineligible to play football at any school in the SEC. It doesnt matter - according to SEC Bylaw 14.01.3.2 - that Auburn was not involved with the family members NCAA-confirmed impropriety.
Solicitation of funds is by definition to agree to receive funds, which is prohibited by the SEC bylaw. If that wasnt true, Newton would not have agreed to receive funds from a representative of Mississippi State if he was offered such funds.
The SEC is indisputably boxed in by its own bylaw thanks to the NCAA ruling: The NCAA says Cecil actively marketed Cam to MSU while the SEC - by ignoring its own bylaw - implies Cecil wouldnt have agreed to receive any benefits from his active marketing of Cam to MSU.
Both cant be true.
Though we are not dealing with criminal law, heres the legal definition of solicitation:
A person is guilty of solicitation to commit a crime if, with the purpose of promoting or facilitating its commission, he commands, encourages or requests another person to engage in specific conduct which would constitute such crime or an attempt to commit such crime or which would establish his complicity in its commission or attempted commission. It is immaterial that the actor fails to communicate with the person he solicits to commit a crime if his conduct was designed to effect such a communication.
The crime of criminal solicitation is the actual soliciting, or seeking to engage another to commit a crime, not the subsequent commission of a crime. Therefore, a defendant can be convicted of soliciting, even though the person refuses and the solicited crime is never perpetrated, as long as the intent that that crime be committed is present.
Again, the NCAA and SEC are not bound by criminal law, but by any possible interpretation, the act of Cecil Newtons agreement to receive funds from Mississippi State via Kenny Rogers renders Cam Newton ineligible to play for any SEC school.
SEC Commissioner Mike Slive attempted to defend his conferences decision to rule Cam Newton eligible after the NCAA announced its ruling Wednesday.
Slive to Clay Travis of AOL Fanhouse:
1. The intent of the legislation.
Based on my research the leagues intent when it added this bylaw was to ensure that if an athlete participated in an NCAA investigation that he wasnt able to transfer to another institution within our own conference. Essentially to keep one institution from getting into trouble and then have an individual attend another school in the same conference.
You could read this bylaw expansively to conclude that an athlete is ineligible at all institutions for receiving a hamburger. I did not believe and do not believe that was the intent of the rule.
The SEC bylaw: If any member of his/her family receives or agrees to receive, directly or indirectly, any aid or assistance beyond or in addition to that permitted by the Bylaws of this Conference such student-athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.
With all due respect to Mr. Slive, what on earth is he talking about?
2. The uniqueness of this case.
This was a case of first impression. (A case of first impression has no existing precedent). The SEC had to determine whether it violated SEC bylaws for an individuals family member to solicit funds from an institution that is different from the one he attended. Ultimately, I had to determine what the appropriate league response was after balancing all of these factors and after considering all of that I did not believe that he had violated our bylaws.
The SEC bylaw on the books states, such student-athlete shall be ineligible for competition in any intercollegiate sport within the Conference for the remainder of his/her college career.
With all due respect to Mr. Slive, what on earth is he talking about?
3. The legislative history of the bylaw
The league added that bylaw in 1985. Thats a long time ago and since that time it has never been applied by me as commissioner to rule someone ineligible and I dont believe any of my predecessors have ever applied it to make someone ineligible either. That was significant.
So if a law is on the books but has never been enforced, it should be ignored?
Ahhh, so thats what Slive is talking about.
According to the SEC's own bylaws, Newton shouldn't be able to play. Yet, this seems to carry all of the weight as tax law when the crook is a democrat congressman.
Up and down the line, rule of law means nothing anymore.
In the SEC, if you ain’t cheatin, you ain’t competin.
We like to refer to him as “Camputer” Newton.
If Cam didn't know what his dad was doing and Cam didn't personally receive a benefit, a judge would toss out that bylaw in a NY minute in this situation.
Why is the FBI involved? I believe it has to do with Colonial Bank.
Some of the bank’s officers were being wire-tapped when Auburn football repeatedly came up. It is alleged by some that players were given “blank” debit cards to use at their ATM’s. Pat Dye is involved with Colonial Bank, btw.
Some also allege there are ties to a casino whereby AU players would swipe a card at select slots and automatically win.
If 1/10th of this is true, AU is going to be sent to Siberia by the NCAA when this is all said and done.
I think the recent NCAA actions are simply protecting the BCS. The real hammer is going to come down later on. AU knows it, but they are already in so deep there’s no going back.
...I’m really looking forward to Saturday’s SEC title game...all the Newton hub bub really plays into South Carolina’s hands IMHO...that’s just the way Spurrier wants it...takes the focus off his team while he quietly comes up with a game plan to confuse Auburn.
....did you see the regular season game between these two?...if you did, then you know that all the Gamecocks need to do Saturday is to make a few adjustments....even though they are the under dog, this game is definately winnable.
I don’t particularly like either coach. I am pulling for Carolina because I’d like to see TCU have a shot. I also don’t want this to turn into something where Auburn wins, has its season cancelled, Newton has to return the Heisman, etc. How would you like to be conference or national champions because your opponent cheated and had to forfeit after the fact?
One of the Auburn regents or trustees seems to have an inordinate amount of control over the football program at the university. Check out the following website for a very interesting forum containing an essay concerning the Auburn situation and also a look at legislative and banking corruption in Alabama. http://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/messagetopic.asp?p=22778676
If you can pay players with casino chips and bank debit cards it’s possible to avoid the rules for awhile.
That was a very interesting read.
That might not be so crystal clear as the article claims. "Agreed to receive", does that refer to an agreement to receive something that was specifically offered, or merely agreed to receive if an offer is obtained?
There is no evidence that an offer was ever obtained, so there was nothing definite and specific to agree to receive. It doesn't seem to have gotten beyond the solicitation stage, and these are an organization's bylaws, with the final interpretation probably left to the organization.
It's not crystal clear, and from what's presented it doesn't seem that the SEC rule makes solicitation a violation of bylaws. And since so many alumni and hangers-on might try to become involved in the recruitment process, it might be intended that solicitation alone not be a violation, because it could be very murky whether an athlete had knowledge of solicitations on his or her behalf.
And no solicitations alleged involved Auburn.
I am just amazed at how much misinformation is on this page. The NCAA has been investigating this for months. Cam and Auburn had no knowledge of what Cecil Newton did at MS.
It is really terrible how the media has slandered Cam just for ratings.
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