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Economy Added Fewer Jobs Than Expected in November [unemployment rate: 9.8%]
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Friday, December 3, 2010 | By LUCA DILEO And JEFFREY SPARSHOTT

Posted on 12/03/2010 5:48:02 AM PST by MinorityRepublican

Edited on 12/03/2010 6:00:23 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: SkyPilot

“Do you mean the U-3 number? The U-6 number is over 22% today (and approaches 23% with the latest data).”

I suppose it’s a nit, but I think you are wrong. The graph you posted shows U-6 at around 17%. It is the “SGS Alternate” number that is around 22%. Again, I suggest sticking with U-6, which is much more that U-3 but significantly less than SGS Alternate.


101 posted on 12/03/2010 10:11:36 AM PST by olrtex
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To: nutmeg

fewer jobs than WHO expected?!?


102 posted on 12/03/2010 10:13:15 AM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: devolve

Good post devolve. Some new heads are needed on those, lol.
I actually pity the Republicans, digging out of this will take years but the libs will be howling in 6 months if things aren’t better.


103 posted on 12/03/2010 10:25:35 AM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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To: devolve
Nice post. I see there are lines of people needing help with heating in Georgia, large numbers of police being let go in crime ridden cities........can't imagine how bad it can get. Three evil people managed to instigate all this “hope and change”.
104 posted on 12/03/2010 10:38:47 AM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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To: olrtex
Gotcha, and you're right. Also, I did mix up U-6 and SGS, sorry.

But, we still are in lala land with the Gubmit fudging the real numbers.

Here is a little wrench in the gears as well: soon, hundreds of thousands of people may lose their perpetual unemployment checks (which some people have been collecting for almost 2 years!)

When that happens, they automatically come off the U-3 list, and go on the U-6 list! So, will Labor tell us how unemployment just dropped like mad?

105 posted on 12/03/2010 10:45:14 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: arkfreepdom

She can’t be elected Speaker. She was, however, elected as Minority Leader. Idiots.


106 posted on 12/03/2010 10:52:47 AM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: MinorityRepublican; All

Can someone please explain to me how they can say we had 50,000 jobs added, when there were 438,000 (or close to it) new applications for unemployment?

That would seem like an overall loss of 388,000 jobs? Jobs added? Surely they jest.


107 posted on 12/03/2010 10:53:28 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Is the U. S. on life support. Looks for all the world like a team has decided to pull the plug.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The democrats had a chance for a strong recovery, but they booted that opportunity by screwing over small businesses with Obamacare and other oppressive legislation. As the democrats say, “you call it income redistribution and we call it fairness.” Small business people are voting against investing and hiring more workers and then having much of their return on investment taken from them to pay for Obamacare and costly bailouts of public sector employees.

The liberals need to learn one big thing: a steadily growing national economy cannot be built up through top-down directives and mandates from the central government, but instead can only be built from the ground up by ensuring the rights of individuals to work and build business with minimal government interference and strictly limited taxation. The voters took the democrats to school on these principles last month, but I’m not sure if stubborn socialists like Pelosi, Hoyer, and Frank have learned anything yet.


108 posted on 12/03/2010 10:55:19 AM PST by socialism_stinX (He didn't invent fresh-brewed coffee, but he perfected the art of sipping it during tennis warm-up.)
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To: DoughtyOne
That would be initial unemployment claims. Even in a good economy there are claims because of normal job turnovers, etc. The benchmark to a "healthy" economy would be a weekly jobless claims number around 300-350K. Hit 400K and you're in trouble.

As has been noted, it hasn't fallen below 400K more than a week or two here and there since Zero took office.
109 posted on 12/03/2010 10:57:58 AM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: OCCASparky

Okay, I agree. I’m not sure if I’m making my point clear, but the 438,000 number is just one week’s (at least, as I understand it) new claims.

The 50,000 figure was the jobs created for the whole month.

1.6 plus million jobs lost (new claims) in November and 50,000 total added.

Is there a mistake on my part?

We’re looking at about 1.550 million less jobs at the end of the month. Do you see an error in my logic?


110 posted on 12/03/2010 11:15:13 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Is the U. S. on life support. Looks for all the world like a team has decided to pull the plug.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

On the upside, people are “green”.....they have nowhere to drive!


111 posted on 12/03/2010 11:20:59 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: SkyPilot; All

I think if the government ever told the truth about how bad things were there would be a market drop of 30-40%.


112 posted on 12/03/2010 11:35:10 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: potlatch

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Thanks potlatch -

LOL!

I imagine the lefties heads explode when they see that post!

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113 posted on 12/03/2010 12:01:33 PM PST by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0ponzi 9.8% . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The recovery is going so well. /sarcasm of course


114 posted on 12/03/2010 12:18:51 PM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: potlatch

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I saw somewhere that Chicago firefighters and police are retiring after only 20 years service with huge (UNFUNDED) pensions - and they never paid into Social Security -

Now they can sit in front of their new 60” HDTVs and drink and snack - or work for another law enforcement agency and again “retire” with another pension - or buy into a bar and end up collecting Social Security too!

.

Illinois and California think that 0pansy will give them bailouts to pay for their unfunded government pensions and pay off their huge mega-debts

You can bet in Georgia the rural citizens will find several ways to heat their homes and businesses -

It’s the grifters in Atlanta that are demanding cash to pay for their heating bills - It sure is not as cold in Georgia as it is here!

And I have figured out how to cut my heating costs in half from the last 2 years - I have the heat turned off right now - and it is 77°F inside -

Maybe I can open my windows like some Enviro-NYers do - and it will be twice as warm - and not cost me a penny!

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115 posted on 12/03/2010 12:20:15 PM PST by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0ponzi 9.8% . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Not to fear. The true (U6) unemployment rate remained unchanged at 17%.


116 posted on 12/03/2010 12:20:18 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Do you see an error in my logic?

Yes. Basically the weekly numbers are for INITIAL jobless claims. Some leave the workforce, some come back in, some find jobs. The monthly figures are a cumulative number; if there are, say, 400K NEW claims per week for a month, not all of those people are going to STAY out of work for an entire month, and some others may be offered jobs as well. Again, turnover is a normal part of those numbers. Even in a good job market, people change jobs, etc., and those are part of the weekly claim but may not show up in the monthly numbers.
117 posted on 12/03/2010 12:21:57 PM PST by OCCASparky (Obama--Playing a West Wing fantasy in a '24' world.)
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To: socialism_stinX

“Small business people are voting against investing and hiring more workers and then having much of their return on investment taken from them to pay for Obamacare and costly bailouts of public sector employees.”

Yep. Only a fool invests in economic growth when Marxists are in charge of the economy.


118 posted on 12/03/2010 12:22:35 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff!)
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To: devolve
I'm sure they would hate it, lol. They are now asking newsmen to discuss ‘problems’ with them before talking about it in public, and we know they are using ways to chastise people if they ‘disobey’.
119 posted on 12/03/2010 12:52:10 PM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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To: devolve
Yes, I know the ‘government’ jobs pay well and have perks. Firemen and Policemen have dangerous jobs but the easiest and best perks go to the US Postal workers!!

I know Atlanta has a high minority population, they even tell you at the airport to be careful where you go at night there!

[Lol, nothing like rain, wind and snow blowing in the window and the heat going full force.]

120 posted on 12/03/2010 1:01:06 PM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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