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Ron Paulís Diem Mirabilis
National Review Online ^ | 12/03/2010 | Daniel Foster

Posted on 12/03/2010 12:29:06 PM PST by OldDeckHand

In the space of 24 hours, Rep. Ron Paul (R., Texas) has voted for tax hikes, against censure for Charlie Rangel, and defended Julian Assange.

Just sayin’.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: libertarian; paul
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To: Deb
Could a straight jacket look ever become fashionable?


Hey! I'm just a political maverick.

61 posted on 12/03/2010 1:24:51 PM PST by Servant of the Cross (I'm with Jim DeMint ... on the fringe!)
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To: Lurker

He’s right. We could prosecute Assange for Espionage which would be the correct charge.
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True that. Execute Assange though. From what I’ve been reading about his proclivities he might enjoy prison more than the average guy.


62 posted on 12/03/2010 1:24:58 PM PST by November 2010
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To: OldDeckHand
Is Diem Mirabilis any relation to Ngo Dinh Diem?

I don't know why the title doesn't read Dies Mirabilis. If the noun is going to be in the accusative case, the adjective has to agree with it--so diem mirabilem--but I don't see any reason for the accusative case here instead of the nominative case.

63 posted on 12/03/2010 1:26:05 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: TigersEye
"That's what you call "a full throated defense?" It sounds like he's making a point to me."

It's either a full-throated defense, or he's a bumbling moron. It is alleged that Assange was in contact with Manning well-before any data breach occurred, making Assange part of the conspiracy.

No one alleges that the New York Times engineered the release of the classified materials they came to be in possession of - either during the Pentagon Papers fiasco, or the the Swiss banking/intelligence scandal more recently. Paul's either too stupid to understand that distinction, or he doesn't care. Take your pick.

64 posted on 12/03/2010 1:29:50 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Mamzelle

You’re correct, which is why it doesn’t bother me unless there’s an attempt to peel off the Libertarians and split the movement. Other than that, it doesn’t bother me.


65 posted on 12/03/2010 1:30:14 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: ejonesie22

That’s got to be the only way he can keep getting re-elected from Texas! Those darn kids.


66 posted on 12/03/2010 1:32:33 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: November 2010

Now there you go offering facts again... don’t you know that the RP slimers have much more fun with lies?


67 posted on 12/03/2010 1:32:42 PM PST by Elwood P. Doud (America, you voted for a negro socialist with an Islamic name - so why act surprised?)
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To: Mamzelle
"But over at NRO they have it in for him for not supporting Bush's invasion of Iraq. "

You think that's the only reason they don't like the guy?

The Corner offers some pretty varying opinions from inside the conservative movement. You'll see disagreement between their own contributors. I wouldn't call it a neo-con website, by any stretch.

"For instance, I want to know about all the GOP senators' support of the ObamafoodCare act."

I'd have to look, but I remember an article posted in the last several days on that very subject (on NRO).

68 posted on 12/03/2010 1:34:32 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: TigersEye

You’re not seriously going to put up facts against an internet blogger’s one and a partial sentence opinion are you?
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I wish people would be a little fairer about the ins and outs of votes. To say he voted against censure when he voted for it is an out and out lie. Same to say he voted for a tax increase when he voted against one.


69 posted on 12/03/2010 1:34:36 PM PST by November 2010
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To: Servant of the Cross

Hmmm...Does it come in Hot Pink?


70 posted on 12/03/2010 1:35:27 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: OldDeckHand
No one alleges that the New York Times engineered the release of the classified materials they came to be in possession of -

That's what you let the NYTs skate on? No comment on the other traitors?

71 posted on 12/03/2010 1:37:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Deb
I didn't hear Paul's speach or reasoning and I have a hard time standing in his defense -- I can't stand most of his finely nuanced positions. I do, however, know that we impeached Clinton when Conservatives and libertarian-conservatives were working together. This working together sense the Paultards have trouble doing when they think internet polls can give their hero a nomination rating higher than he is due -- we have the figures when he was the Libertarian Party nominee against Reagan.

When it comes down to it, he may never become more conservative and less Libertarian. I can only think of one thing that might make him more sensible. If we could convince him, he would greatly benefit from having three tex-mex luncheons with you a week and having you beat some sense into his head. I would start with the Habenaro sauce, if I were you.

72 posted on 12/03/2010 1:37:42 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: November 2010
To say he voted against censure when he voted for it is an out and out lie.

He voted specifically to strip "censure" from the resolution condemning Rangel.

Quit yer lyin.

Same to say he voted for a tax increase when he voted against one.

Paul voted with Nancy Pelosi on a huge tax increase.

73 posted on 12/03/2010 1:39:21 PM PST by Crichton
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To: OldDeckHand
Possibly, but as I never visit their site anymore, I missed it.

Since Lowry took over, it's all children of the Partisan Review, all the time. Kristol, etc etc.

When the TP got moving, you heard all kinds of squeaking from the cocktail party circuit at NR. Oh, mercy me, don't carry offensive signs!

There I was, risking making an idiot of myself in the heat of the summer and fall of 2009 trying to make points to my elected officials, and the effete little Ivy crowd at NR were sweating being embarrassed. They can't lead or follow, but love to be in the way. (As long as they get to use a lot of big words and emphasize how smart they are.)

They need to find real work.

74 posted on 12/03/2010 1:39:57 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: November 2010

People don’t like to work to find the truth. They just want someone to tell them what to think.


75 posted on 12/03/2010 1:40:27 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
"That's what you let the NYTs skate on? No comment on the other traitors? "

Who's letting the NY Times "skate"? This isn't about whatever other "alleged traitors" you're referring to. This is about Julian Assange and did he do anything criminal?

If what is alleged to have occurred is accurate, then yes. Assange violated perhaps several US statutes, not the least of Which is the Espionage Act of 1917.

Paul, apparently thinks that someone who conspires to steal and disseminate classified US materials shouldn't be prosecuted. I disagree.

76 posted on 12/03/2010 1:43:58 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Mamzelle
Since Lowry took over, it's all children of the Partisan Review, all the time. Kristol, etc etc.

NR jumped the shark before Lowry, unfortunately. I've found that I have to go to religious journals to find a publication that doesn't flounder all over the place.

77 posted on 12/03/2010 1:46:09 PM PST by Crichton
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To: OldDeckHand
This isn't about whatever other "alleged traitors" you're referring to. This is about Julian Assange and did he do anything criminal?

But of course. Who can't compartmentalize their ethics?

78 posted on 12/03/2010 1:48:49 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
"But of course. Who can't compartmentalize their ethics? "

If that's what you think, don't let me stop you. ALL HAIL RON PAUL, DEFENDER OF AMERICAN FREEDOMS.

I get it. You love Paul.

79 posted on 12/03/2010 1:50:29 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Deb

Gotta be. That and the pork he hauls in...


80 posted on 12/03/2010 1:50:58 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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