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Rep. Ron Paul Makes Special Request Of Wikileaks on Fox’s Freedom Watch
Mediaite ^ | 12/04/2010 | Frances Martel

Posted on 12/05/2010 7:29:20 AM PST by speciallybland

Republican Congressman Ron Paul may be Julian Assange’s most loyal supporter in Congress. Visiting Fox Business’ Freedom Watch– a program on which Assange has been welcome several times– Rep. Paul went to bat for the Wikileaker in the middle of condemning the secrecy of the Federal Reserve, and made a little request of his own: “every conversation of the last ten years with the Federal Reserve people.” Chop, chop, Assange!

Rep. Paul, who is also a regular guest on the program, chatted for some time with the injustices of having a “secret government” like the Federal Reserve with Judge Andrew Napolitano, calling the agency “as unconstitutional as it gets” and its practices “immoral,” “wrong,” “bad economics,” and “built on counterfeit money.” In light of the recent diplomatic cables, however, Rep. Paul seems to have found hope that there is a concrete way to take the Fed down:

“What we need is more Wikileaks on the Federal Reserve. Can you imagine what it would be like if we have every conversation of the last 10 years with the Federal Reserve people and the Federal Reserve chairman, with all the other central bankers of the world, and every agreement and quid pro quo that they have? I mean, it would be massive. The people would be so outraged.”

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1 posted on 12/05/2010 7:29:24 AM PST by speciallybland
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To: speciallybland

Mr. ASSange says he will drop the “doomsday” leak if his site gets shut down? What’s that? The Hillary sex tape??


2 posted on 12/05/2010 7:32:17 AM PST by NCBraveheart ("oderint dum metuant"........Let them hate, as long as they fear.)
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To: speciallybland

Sadly, the judge is a truther and close friend of Alex Jones


3 posted on 12/05/2010 7:33:42 AM PST by NCBraveheart ("oderint dum metuant"........Let them hate, as long as they fear.)
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To: NCBraveheart

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/goldberg.wav


4 posted on 12/05/2010 7:35:13 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: speciallybland

Interesting suggestion from Mr. Paul. The Fed needs daylight.


5 posted on 12/05/2010 7:41:28 AM PST by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: speciallybland

“Republican Congressman Ron Paul may be Julian Assange’s most loyal supporter in Congress”

Ron Paul is a loose canon, apparently he’s been drinking too much Kool-Aid.


6 posted on 12/05/2010 7:52:22 AM PST by kenmcg (jUS)
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To: speciallybland

that WOULD be pretty cool....


7 posted on 12/05/2010 7:58:01 AM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' you would be worse than grabbing your balls!)
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To: NCBraveheart

Thanks a lot! That’s a visual that will take some time to wash out of my brain.


8 posted on 12/05/2010 8:04:10 AM PST by CTyank
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To: NCBraveheart

Yes - the Hillary/Helen Thomases romp.


9 posted on 12/05/2010 8:06:09 AM PST by CTyank
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To: speciallybland

So instead of continuing to call for the legal audit, he now wants to employ criminals using criminal tactics to get what he wants?


10 posted on 12/05/2010 8:07:21 AM PST by mnehring
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To: speciallybland

Great idea!

Shed some light on the Fed

3 trillion dollars to prop up domestic and foreign banks from US taxpayers?

Who voted for that ?


11 posted on 12/05/2010 8:07:41 AM PST by cowtowney
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To: NCBraveheart

I don’t mind this Assange goofball, or anyone else, releasing embarassing info, or anything that cries out for investigation - like what the hell the fed is up to, but any release of classified material that may put our military personnel, intelligence communities, national security, allies, etc. - in other words, lives on the line due to the release, should be met with SEVERE CONSEQUENCES for the leakers.


12 posted on 12/05/2010 8:15:58 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: kenmcg

No Ron Paul is not a “loose canon”. The government of the United States in my lifetime has become as corrupt as any Banana Boat Republic. Our entire Legislature is comprised of a bunch of go along get along, elitist, power hungry sychophants. Democrats and Republicans drink from the same special interest trough. The President of the United States cannot even brag on the hospital he was born at because either he does not know or was not born in the United States. Our financial system is controlled and manipulated by a private banking cartel who at will borrows money that you and I will have to repay from our hard earned wages and then lends it out to foreign banks and private enterprises. The Federal Reserve manipulates our economy at will with no legislative oversight. Do you not know that this country’s banking system is supposed to be regulated by the US legislature not some contrived cartel put together in the middle of the night at Jekyll Island?

Who didn’t know that the Saudi’s want an attack on Iran? Who was shocked to learn that NK was supplying nuclear material to Iran? Who didn’t know that Russia & China have been selling nuclear technology to Iran for years? Who was suprised to learn that our current regime mocks our allies? Who didn’t think the Federal Reserve was giving our TARP money to foreign banks and private companies? The answer is “NOBODY”.

Julian Assange has done us a favor by exposing our government for the corrupt and incompetent creature it has become. Its time to shake things up a little in this country and see what comes crawling out. All Wikileaks did was publish information it received from another source. Assange did not break into anyone’s office or hack into any computers and steal anything. He just shared it with the rest of us and I for one am glad he did.

Wake up!!!!!


13 posted on 12/05/2010 8:18:53 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: DocH

Eh, issue I have is if the Gov had it’s druthers, everything would be Classified, which is why I like the wikileaks work, but think it would be better if there were more transparency across the board by the .Gov.

I also believe the wikileaks stuff that pertains to the US Military, the things that the Military has done in the WoT, show the tremendous character of our fine men and women in uniform.

“Even when” they had no reason to think whatever they were doing would never come to light, they still behaved in a manner that should make every American proud of them.

Granted Americans should be and are proud of them already, however when the test came, they passed it with flying colors much to the chagrin of the far left.


14 posted on 12/05/2010 8:28:56 AM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Assange is no hero who is doing us favors, nor is he a journalist who gets those protections. He is a criminal and a Soros puppet.

What surprises me is people who claim to be Conservatives supporting this enemy of the United States who traffics in stolen information, is himself a hacker who used to crack into the NSA often, who attempts to manipulate countries, and has stated in various manifestos he wants to take down the US and the West. He is no different than a foreign operative who recruits spies to steal classified information.

Assange has even been in league with Obama in helping him elect his cousin, the Marxist Odinga, as President in Kenya. During that election, that Obama (then Senator) was helping Odinga with and even bringing in some big name Democrat workers, some documents were released that were damning to Odinga, showing, among other things, he was involved in murders and supported Sharia law. After a lot of bloodshed on Odinga’s part, and Obama campaigning for Odinga, Assange rode in to Odinga’s rescue releasing hacked documents through Wikileaks about Odinga’s opponent. Odinga ended up winning.
Sources:
http://stanfordreview.org/article/barack-obamas-kenyan-connections
http://www.theage.com.au/news/web/the-aussie-whos-changing-the-world/2008/07/08/1215282800995.html%22

Assange’s emails through the years, especially on hacker usenet groups shows a deep dislike for the United States and a desire to destroy this country:
http://cryptome.org/0001/assange-cpunks.htm

Assange himself, was a famous hacker who raised hell with the NSA and is suspected by some to be a foreign operative himself.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fbusiness%2Fanalysis-and-features%2Fspies-in-the-forests-743268.html&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGLL_en___US396

This is just the tip of the iceberg with this guy that you venerate. Your support is no different than supporting the Rosenbergs or other Soviet spies who stole information.

If Paul uses Assange to hack the Fed, it will destroy the “Audit” movement. Employing criminals for criminal behavior would result in the entire story becoming about the hack, not about the findings. The story can then be shifted to go after those who employed the hackers (Paul). If Assange gets involved, you can kiss a legal, binding audit goodbye.


15 posted on 12/05/2010 8:41:11 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

If all of the conversations, memo’s etc were, in fact, released there would be no need for an official audit.


16 posted on 12/05/2010 8:54:44 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (If America falls darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: mnehring

I’m not interested in what goes on in Kenya. Why don’t you address the information that was “leaked” about the US? Maybe because it didn’t really expose anything we didn’t already know and because it didn’t put our troops in harms way or expose any of our espionage operations. Not that we likely have any credible espionage system left. Especially if some sniveling little low grade grunt can get access to classified documents at will.

Perhaps you should stop worrying about Julian Assange trying to destroy the US and look at the real culprit; the current President of the United States, His Secretary of State and his shadow cabinet. So far they are doing a much better job than Wikileaks.

Don’t blame me and don’t blame Wikileaks. Blame the current corrupt US government.


17 posted on 12/05/2010 8:55:05 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: kenmcg
Ron Paul is a loose canon, apparently he’s been drinking too much Kool-Aid.

The Fed had to disclose is $3 trillion skullduggery because Ron Paul managed to get legislation passed requiring these disclosures. Some Kool-Aid.

18 posted on 12/05/2010 8:55:53 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Don’t think for a second that Obama and Assange aren’t in cahoots. By the way, WikiLeaks has released information that puts US intelligence operatives in danger and the Taliban has even made a statement it will go after all of our informants.


19 posted on 12/05/2010 8:57:00 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Balding_Eagle

Yes there would because you would have to have an audit to validate it is real, validate it is complete, and get legally obtained information to make legal moves against the feds. Illegally obtained documents just hurt those who obtain them. Look at all the WikiLeaks to date.. the only people who are really in trouble are those who took part in the leaks. Even the subject of the leaks just blow them off.


20 posted on 12/05/2010 8:58:53 AM PST by mnehring
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To: kenmcg
Ron Paul is a loose canon, apparently he’s been drinking too much Kool-Aid.

The Fed had to disclose is $3 trillion skullduggery because Ron Paul managed to get legislation passed requiring these disclosures. Some Kool-Aid.

21 posted on 12/05/2010 9:04:37 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: speciallybland
I'm with Dr. Paul on this one. Too many secrets = too much corruption.

And we are up to our eyeballs in both along with the every growing pile of debts we're on the hook for.

22 posted on 12/05/2010 9:07:20 AM PST by GBA (Not on our watch!)
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To: mnehring

I would be grateful if you would vent your fury in the right direction and quit worrying about Julian Assange and Wikileaks and start worrying about the real threat to our country which is the group of Marxist revolutionaries who are currently yukking it up on martinis and $100 per LB beef in the White House.

Julian Assange is just the messenger. You want to shoot the messenger because you are afraid of the message.


23 posted on 12/05/2010 9:08:18 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: NCBraveheart

You know he’ll release the doomsday stuff anyway. The question is only if it’s slowly, or all at once.


24 posted on 12/05/2010 9:09:54 AM PST by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

My frustration is in understanding the big picture and that they are all connected. Using Assange is like letting your opponent get a rook behind your pawns thinking it is no threat to you. They are all part of the same cabal.

You are wanting to let the fox into the hen house thinking he’ll chase away the rats.


25 posted on 12/05/2010 9:11:01 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring

I think what we all need is the stark truth staring us in the face so that “we the people” will get off our complacent duffs and chase the rats out for ourselves.


26 posted on 12/05/2010 9:15:53 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: mnehring
So instead of continuing to call for the legal audit, he now wants to employ criminals using criminal tactics to get what he wants?

The Federal Reserve has been employing criminal tactics since 1913. It's tough to beat a street fighter while limiting yourself to the Marquess of Queensberry Rules.

27 posted on 12/05/2010 9:20:30 AM PST by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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To: mnehring
This is just the tip of the iceberg with this guy that you venerate. Your support is no different than supporting the Rosenbergs or other Soviet spies who stole information.

BS Our now nearly total out of control government is our internal enemy. I do not support any leak that would cause military security to be jeopardized but there is no way to expose our Government that is so corrupt that we could drop into a dictatorship. Maybe you should wake up. Our war is no longer outside the US but right under our nose. Do you not realize how much freedom we have lost and look at the piling on that is still going on. I don't know any other way to get at the guts of this so called current Constitutional Government. Certainly nobody in Government is going to expose themselves. Why don't you give us an answer? I don't like Wikileak dirty fighting but sometimes it has to be done. I quit what I saw in Government after 27 years and in the military for 4 years and could see no way I could do anything.

28 posted on 12/05/2010 9:27:58 AM PST by Logical me
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To: speciallybland

““What we need is more Wikileaks on the Federal Reserve.” Ron Paul

sounds like treason to me.


29 posted on 12/05/2010 9:33:57 AM PST by ari-freedom (Happy Chanuka!)
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To: cowtowney
3 trillion dollars to prop up domestic and foreign banks from US taxpayers?

The Fed doesn't use money from taxpayers.

30 posted on 12/05/2010 9:34:35 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Logical me
Do you not realize how much freedom we have lost...

I realize that but I also realize that Assange is a tool for the international forces who want to do just this. He isn't a rescuer of lost freedoms, he is part of the cabal that wants to take them away and centralize them.

He has stated in his early manifestos and emails that he is basically a communist who wants to take down the US and forces of the West. He has the same goals as Obama and Soros.. they are playing a much bigger chess game here.

31 posted on 12/05/2010 9:39:00 AM PST by mnehring
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To: DocH

“any release of classified material that may put our military personnel, intelligence communities, national security, allies, etc. - in other words, lives on the line due to the release, should be met with SEVERE CONSEQUENCES for the leakers.”

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I am sick to death of this Wikileaks-risking-the-lives-of-our-troops nonsense.

You want to know who should meet with “severe consequences” for endangering our troops? The politicians, bureaucrats, State Department traitors and globalists who have been sending our men off to die in meaningless conflicts they were never expected to, or allowed to, win.

Since WWII ended they have been entangling our troops in dangerous situations that have truly questionable bearings on “national security,” and then tying the troops’ hands with sadistic rules of engagement.

That Wikileaks is exposing these sorts of shenanigans, and may do so in other arenas, is a breath of fresh air.

You name me one soldier or sailor who dies as a result of Wikileaks. I’ll show you a wall with the names of 50,000 of my generation sent to die for no good reason, and you can add to that list the names from Korea, all the Gulf War I and WOT crap in the Middle East, and all the myriad little skirmishes in Third World backwaters where we lost men for no justifiable reason.


32 posted on 12/05/2010 9:44:31 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: NCBraveheart
The Hillary sex tape??

Was that necessary? I'm about to lose my breakfast.

33 posted on 12/05/2010 9:51:38 AM PST by Pomosapien (Buck Religion)
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To: mnehring

“Assange is no hero who is doing us favors, nor is he a journalist who gets those protections. He is a criminal and a Soros puppet.”

yeah right :/

thats why Wikileaks has been shutdown in the US, shut down in France, banned by Paypal, Interpol has issued a red notice for the arrest of Assange over alleged sexual crime, with that crime being a split condom during sexual intercourse...


34 posted on 12/05/2010 9:51:54 AM PST by WalterKurtz
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To: mnehring
He has stated in his early manifestos and emails that he is basically a communist who wants to take down the US and forces of the West. He has the same goals as Obama and Soros.. they are playing a much bigger chess game here.

And the communists in the King Obama Administration are not doing the same and has damn near got it done. Cannot you see we are war with our Government. What do you think the Tea Party saw. Corruption exposed, which is worst within or outside? Both the damn same to me if we have lost America. By the way, don't hope our new House will save us. Even if they tried it would take many years and will never be complete.

35 posted on 12/05/2010 10:01:33 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Logical me
And the communists in the King Obama Administration are not doing the same and has damn near got it done.

..and if you see the links from some of the other posts I made, you'll see that Assange has worked directly with Obama before. They are playing the same side, even if it seems Assange is "exposing corruption", he is just moving the pieces around the way his handlers want.

36 posted on 12/05/2010 10:03:15 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Georgia Girl 2

You go grrrl. None of the wikileaks info deserve a classified label. It does, however deserve an “embarrassing” label. The structural corruptions it reveals should be prosecuted in real time at real locations by a pissed off citizenry. The elitists and bureaucraps who run this country will soon be dragged to the guillotine by the power of data to speak for itself, freed from the dictatorship of ideologically infused spin and willful self-inflicted ignorance. People who dumb themselves down are the enemy.


37 posted on 12/05/2010 10:10:35 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui (consciousness is a heads up display)
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To: mnehring

I repeat myself one last time. Vent your anger in the direction of the true culprit; The current occupant of the White House and his cronies in the House and Senate.

You are not going to win this argument because you are wrong. Walk toward the light.


38 posted on 12/05/2010 10:19:15 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I repeat myself one last time, don’t put your faith in Assange, he is a tool of the same people who control the WH and others. They are on the same team. Venting anger towards the current occupant by default, vents towards all of his tools. At that, it is much bigger than the current occupant in the White House.


39 posted on 12/05/2010 10:21:11 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring
As I've said to others in this debate...it is akin to siding with Hitler because he opposed Stalin.

Assange is a closet pedophile and a tool of leftists and he is a terrorist...planning on using illegially gained documents to hold hostage countries and people.

Now that he mentions going after some banks, all of the anti-Fed folks are all giddy.

Be anti-Fed all you want, but don't support this schmuck who gets aroused by taking down the United States.

40 posted on 12/05/2010 10:30:05 AM PST by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Solson

One of my concerns about asking Assange to get involved with this Federal Reserve issue is that it won’t be to the ends people think.

IF I were Soros, and IF Assange were my puppet, I would definitely have him release damning documents on the Fed, but only after having other chess pieces in place. For example, have it coincide with a call for a world currency to replace the dollar. Have it happen during a time when there is an administration who could be manipulated into agreeing with this. And, have it happen when there already is an economic crash so people will do anything for financial security.

Then, to the initial cheers of Ron Paul, Assange releases the Fed documents, but instead of having it fix our system, the world’s confidence in the Dollar crashes, and with it, domino crashing all economies that hedge on the dollar. There is a worldwide call for a world backed currency (as we’ve seen calls for already from the UN). The administration, to save the US economy, agrees and we all join a World Union currency, giving up our economic sovereignty to the UN.

That seems a lot more of a realistic scenario than the Paul fans imagine of us returning to the Gold Standard based on Austrian Economic theory.


41 posted on 12/05/2010 10:38:42 AM PST by mnehring
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To: cowtowney

If we bailed out the foreign and domestic banks with our money than WE THE PEOPLE OWN THOSE BANKS AND THEIR HOLDINGS!


42 posted on 12/05/2010 11:12:45 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: speciallybland

Paul is against AZ SB1070 despite his claims of being a States Rights advocate.

Paul is also against punishing Rangle for tax and campaign fund fraud.

Paul is a Democrat that runs in the GOP because of his location.


43 posted on 12/05/2010 1:31:41 PM PST by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: NoLibZone

He should let the bankers alone. Let the Fed do what it wants with it’s money. It’s none of our business.


44 posted on 12/05/2010 1:36:41 PM PST by BiggieLittle
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To: BiggieLittle

I disagree.

He avoided the Fed issue when we had a total lock on all branches.

It’s no different than his decades long DADT position. He flipped when it came time to vote.

He merely uses public sentiment to gain press.


45 posted on 12/05/2010 1:54:48 PM PST by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: NoLibZone

..and last week he just voted for Piglosi’s tax hike bill.


46 posted on 12/05/2010 2:05:08 PM PST by mnehring
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To: kenmcg

That has been Paul’s MO for as long as he’s been around. That being said, he can be a useful idiot once in a while and I like the way he hounds the Fed.


47 posted on 12/05/2010 2:09:04 PM PST by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: mnehring

In addition to opposing the right of the State of AZ and it’s SB1070 law, he opposes Sheriff Joe and a border fence.


48 posted on 12/05/2010 2:10:38 PM PST by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“The Fed doesn’t use money from taxpayers.”

Really?

Where does it come from?


49 posted on 12/05/2010 5:07:40 PM PST by cowtowney
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To: BiggieLittle

“He should let the bankers alone. Let the Fed do what it wants with it’s money. It’s none of our business.”

Criminey! This is an example of why our country is in debt up to it’s eyeballs. Where do you think the Fed gets its money?

Do you think if the Fed creates money to bail out bankers that it will have no repercussions on you? Do you think creating 3 TRILLION out of thin air by printing money is ok?


50 posted on 12/05/2010 5:21:15 PM PST by cowtowney
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