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To: DWar; abb
Thanks for the very interesting and civil discussion. Assuming DWar's knowledge if the architecture of the internet is correct, I, unfortunately, believe DWar's conclusions are more likely correct.

My only objection to DWar's arguments is with the assumption of how far troops and law enforcement personel in the USA will go in opposing the citizens, even after a major terrorist attack. Given the choice of siding with their families or government thugs, the troops may choose their families.

38 posted on 12/07/2010 1:56:11 PM PST by jonathonandjennifer
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To: jonathonandjennifer
questions, questions:

1)How many souls in the US standing armed forces?

2)How many private citizens that are discharged/retired from armed forces of the US?

3)How many people in the CONUS that can hit a pie plate at 600 yards with a rifle?

39 posted on 12/07/2010 2:11:35 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: jonathonandjennifer; DWar

I’ve had this discussion with my older brother for over forty years. “They” are gonna take over and “they” already have the power and the technology. “They” control everything from wall street to every level of government.

Yadda, yadda, yadda.

He’s been telling me for ten years that “they” can shut down the internet with the flip of a switch.

If so, why haven’t “they” done it already?

Because “they” can’t, that’s why. The citizens still run the show here in the USA.

I refuse to conduct my life where I would retreat into a bunker and surround myself with food and weapons and wait for “them” to come and get me.

I choose to live a normal life and fight “them” with the new tools technology has given us all - namely, the internet.

I’m about to leave and go cover a local school board meeting and write about it in my online newspaper that I’ve been running for a year and a half. I got tired of trying to get the newspapers and TV stations to cover events as they really happen, so I decided to do it myself.

That’s what I’m going to do.


40 posted on 12/07/2010 2:16:56 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: jonathonandjennifer
My only objection to DWar's arguments is with the assumption of how far troops and law enforcement personel in the USA will go in opposing the citizens

I don't want to be right.
I hope my fears are all proven wrong.

Perhaps America is truly so exceptional that the humans who lead us are not corrupt and the people who influence them not hungry for power. Perhaps the people who serve in American law enforcement are not suceptable to mental persuasion or conditioning.

Do you see TSA agents refusing to grope nuns and 5 year crying old children? They're just doing their job. Isn't that what so many said at the Nurmberg trials? This is all part of the mental conditioning necessary to create a compliant populous AND an armed service convinced they are protecting the nation.

It's comforting to think that American service people would refuse to behave so coersively towards American citizens but German troops showed little revulsion to draconian behavior with German citizens. Did they love their mothers and fathers any less than Americans do?

Furthermore, by stationing Florida people in California and Oregon people in Maine there is no risk of family feelings being involved. And if you station mostly white troops in minority areas and minority troops in white areas natural personal empathy is even further reduced. Was there any revolt by the troops in WWII as they rounded up the Japanese American citizens and put them into internment camps?

Again, I hope I'm wrong. But the infrastructure is in place. America is awash in gasoline and all that's required is a leader so corrupt and power hungry that he is willing to strike the match.

44 posted on 12/07/2010 3:36:20 PM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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