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US House Votes 402-1 to honor Chinese Nobel Peace Prize winning dissident (Guess who voted 'No')
US House of Representative Website ^ | 12/08/2010

Posted on 12/08/2010 12:58:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: china; liuxiaobo; nobelpeaceprize; ronpaul

1 posted on 12/08/2010 12:58:44 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll guess without checking. Ron Paul?


2 posted on 12/08/2010 1:00:03 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, at least he’s consistent - consistently ridiculous.


3 posted on 12/08/2010 1:00:25 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: SeekAndFind
Did he give a reason, or was it just contrariness on display.
4 posted on 12/08/2010 1:02:27 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ron Paul. Where in the constitution does it say a duty of the federal government is to vote resolutions of honor, much less resolutions of honor for non-citizens?


5 posted on 12/08/2010 1:04:11 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: SeekAndFind

This year the awards will be represented by an EMPTY SEAT. A couple of years ago it was presented to an EMPTY SUIT.


6 posted on 12/08/2010 1:04:21 PM PST by RichyTea (To those offended - take off your blinders)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I agree with him, doesn’t Congress have better things to do...


7 posted on 12/08/2010 1:05:20 PM PST by martinidon (It's The Spending Stupid)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

He does have a point.


8 posted on 12/08/2010 1:06:10 PM PST by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Ron Paul is right. I'm not paying my tax dollars for what the press release type of meaningless declarations that are in all practicality meaningless. In these kind of issues the American people have many ways to speak as a people. Stick to needed business. restoring Liberty and Justice IN AMERICA would be far more effective in helping this Chinese seeker of justice than a trillion of these empty -- but expensive in record keeping -- feel-good resolutions.
9 posted on 12/08/2010 1:06:16 PM PST by bvw
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Exactly.


10 posted on 12/08/2010 1:06:26 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: SeekAndFind

Plenty of people from both parties who didn’t vote.


11 posted on 12/08/2010 1:06:31 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: martinidon

RonPaul...love this guy


12 posted on 12/08/2010 1:07:01 PM PST by OregonTide
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To: SeekAndFind

To bad the fellow wasn’t dealing with the shrimp industry, then Paul would have voted yes.


13 posted on 12/08/2010 1:08:36 PM PST by svcw
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To: SeekAndFind

Our Jim Traficant.


14 posted on 12/08/2010 1:08:55 PM PST by what's up
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s his logic behind his No vote?


15 posted on 12/08/2010 1:09:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
RE: What’s his logic behind his No vote?
See posts #5 and #9 above.
16 posted on 12/08/2010 1:10:46 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: GonzoGOP
Did he give a reason, or was it just contrariness on display

How many man-hours do you think were wasted by 435 congressmen and their staffs on this matter? I realize the nation is facing no pressing problems at this time, but couldn't they find something useful to do?

When you see a congressional vote go 402-1, you can assume that 402 of them voted the wrong way & Dr. Paul voted in the interests o the Constitution and the American people.

17 posted on 12/08/2010 1:10:47 PM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: taxtruth

Yes, he does have a point. But in this particular instance, I wouldn’t mind voting Yes just because it would stick it to China, that pinnacle of human rights, a little.


18 posted on 12/08/2010 1:10:56 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
but couldn't they find something useful to do?

I'd rather they do useless things until all their time is gone.

19 posted on 12/08/2010 1:12:47 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: martinidon

Exactly. How about that TAX BILL? Close the borders? Freeing up the markets to get jobs and cash rolling again?


20 posted on 12/08/2010 1:13:23 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: martinidon
I agree with him, doesn’t Congress have better things to do...

You mean passing the Scream Act?

21 posted on 12/08/2010 1:17:27 PM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
When you see a congressional vote go 402-1, you can assume that 402 of them voted the wrong way

A more perfect statement of contrariness would be hard to find.
22 posted on 12/08/2010 1:17:27 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: martinidon
. . . doesn’t Congress have better things to do...

Right now, the nation would be far better served if the current congress was occupied exclusively with harmless matters of this nature.

I hope they will carefully discuss and debate on a resolution to make the honeybee our national insect next.

23 posted on 12/08/2010 1:18:43 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: OldDeckHand

>> at least he’s consistent <<

And I’ll bet he’s heart-broken that his best pal, Alan Grayson, didn’t vote with him!


24 posted on 12/08/2010 1:19:39 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: bvw
Ron Paul is right. I'm not paying my tax dollars for what the press release type of meaningless declarations that are in all practicality meaningless. In these kind of issues the American people have many ways to speak as a people. Stick to needed business. restoring Liberty and Justice IN AMERICA would be far more effective in helping this Chinese seeker of justice than a trillion of these empty -- but expensive in record keeping -- feel-good resolutions.

Bingo. We didn't hire them to pass 'touchy-feely' resolutions.

25 posted on 12/08/2010 1:24:25 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Let's turn this around. Instead of asking Dr. Paul to justify himself, how about the rest of you justifying the waste of taxpayer dollars on an unconstitutional waste of time?

Congressmen can give their opinions on topics such as Nobel laureates any time, and the media will give them plenty of attention doing it. But tying up our government resources with this sort of thing is a symptom of what's wrong with our bloated system. Let's hammer the wastrels and get them to justify themselves, or else stick to the proper functions of government as per the Constitution. Lord knows they need to...

26 posted on 12/08/2010 1:27:44 PM PST by Liberty1970 (Thanking God for many blessings :-))
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To: GonzoGOP



27 posted on 12/08/2010 1:29:56 PM PST by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m with Ron Paul on this one.

If the Nobel Committee has become just another lefty political hack organization, and clearly they have, as demonstrated when they picked Barack Obama in 2009, then we have no business approving when they pick somebody we like the next year.

We should not be propping these idiots up. What will we say next year when they pick Julian Assange for the prize?


28 posted on 12/08/2010 1:30:47 PM PST by Haiku Guy (What we've got here is ... failure to communicate.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
>> Where in the constitution does it say a duty of the federal government is to vote resolutions of honor <<

Not in the Constitution, I'm pretty sure.

But if one could examine James Madison's copy of Vattel (in the original French, of course), maybe one might find that Old Jimmy had underlined a passage saying something to the effect that such resolutions "shall be deemed meet and proper" -- whether or not the putative honoree should be a natural-born citizen.

Honi soit qui mal y pense!

29 posted on 12/08/2010 1:31:42 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: SeekAndFind

As much as I support the Chinese dissident who will be honored by the Nobel committee, I think such symbolic acts by the U.S. Congress are a waste of time.

Certainly this “lame duck” session has more important matters of material worth to American citizens that it could focus its time and attention to.

That said, if instead they were legislating a special grant of political asylum for him, that would have actually been doing something real.


30 posted on 12/08/2010 1:31:44 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

>> Certainly this “lame duck” session has more important matters ...

Name one that has a chance of passing.


31 posted on 12/08/2010 1:34:27 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Fed needs a spotlight...DREAM needs to be killed on sight...the tax battle ain’t anywhere near over...yet 402 congresscritters have the time to get involved in petty Nobel potlitics...

Geesh...

=8-(


32 posted on 12/08/2010 1:35:07 PM PST by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: Dead Corpse
"Exactly. How about that TAX BILL? Close the borders? Freeing up the markets to get jobs and cash rolling again?"

How about the budget, did they somehow just forget about that?

33 posted on 12/08/2010 1:35:27 PM PST by Spitzensparkin1 (Arrest and deport all illegal aliens. Illegal is not a race - it is a crime. WhooRaah! Arizona!)
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To: martinidon
I am happy to have them doing silly $hit like this. Keeps them from causing more damage.
34 posted on 12/08/2010 1:36:23 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: Haiku Guy
We should not be propping these idiots up. What will we say next year when they pick Julian Assange for the prize?

EXACTLY!!

I swear, if you held a gun to the head of every Congress thing and ordered them to say "I don't know, that's none of my business, and certainly not clearly defined as one of the Federal government's enumerated powers" or you'd shoot them, you'd have Ron Paul left standing in a room full of bodies.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

35 posted on 12/08/2010 1:40:25 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Well you know if he was a Chinese DISSIDENT cut and run would not like him. Cut and run only supports people who hate America, like terrorists.
36 posted on 12/08/2010 1:45:51 PM PST by John D
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To: Spitzensparkin1
If they don't pass a budget, they don't get paid, and the FedGov shuts down.

Actually, I'm kinda ok with that prospect. :-)

37 posted on 12/08/2010 1:47:23 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

> “Where in the constitution does it say a duty of the federal government is to vote resolutions of honor, much less resolutions of honor for non-citizens?”

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Well gosh!

If congress were to stop doing things that are not authorized in the constitution, they sure wouldn’t be doing much.
.


38 posted on 12/08/2010 1:51:53 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: SeekAndFind

To be honest I don’t much about this meaningless vote that you are pointing out in order to trash Paul. I will tell you this though. I have more respect for Ron Paul then most of the House members. Although I do not agree with all his positions, he is not afraid to speak his mind unlike the rest.


39 posted on 12/08/2010 1:58:13 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

Another good point.


40 posted on 12/08/2010 2:07:59 PM PST by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Shouldn’t that concept justify an abstention, and not a ‘no’ vote?


41 posted on 12/08/2010 2:10:08 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: SeekAndFind

The whole vote was a waste of time. If they wanted to do something give the man CIA support.


42 posted on 12/08/2010 2:12:50 PM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Ted Grant

If you think the honoring is unconstitutional, you would vote against it.

If you thought the vote was a waste of time, you’d abstain.


43 posted on 12/08/2010 2:24:34 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: bvw

Yep. Cut all this meaningless stuff, cut 3 months off the legislative schedule, and make the positions part-time, with a 33% pay cut.


44 posted on 12/08/2010 2:30:38 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Ron Paul. Where in the constitution does it say a duty of the federal government is to vote resolutions of honor, much less resolutions of honor for non-citizens?

If that's his logic, I'd have to agree with it. At least he is trying to do what the Constitution provides.

45 posted on 12/08/2010 3:12:05 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (And what happened to my tagline? Erased?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Does Dr Paul think it is unconstitutional? Source?


46 posted on 12/08/2010 6:49:47 PM PST by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant
We were told to guess. That was my guess -- it usually is his reason for voting no on these things.

I really doubt he was actually opposed to the guy getting a Nobel Peace Prize.

On the other hand, the hot air folks had fun with this Ron Paul Casts Lone Vote...

47 posted on 12/08/2010 9:28:10 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

48 posted on 12/10/2010 6:12:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("The proper study of mankind is man." (Alexander Pope, 'An Essay on Man', 1733))
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