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Iran Placing Medium-Range Missiles in Venezuela; Can Reach the U.S.
Hudson New York ^ | 12/09/10 | Anna Mahjar-Barducci

Posted on 12/09/2010 9:32:14 AM PST by MissesBush

Iran is planning to place medium-range missiles on Venezuelan soil, based on western information sources[1], according to an article in the German daily, Die Welt, of November 25, 2010. According to the article, an agreement between the two countries was signed during the last visit o Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez to Tehran on October19, 2010. The previously undisclosed contract provides for the establishment of a jointly operated military base in Venezuela, and the joint development of ground-to-ground missiles.

At a moment when NATO members found an agreement, in the recent Lisbon summit (19-20 November 2010), to develop a Missile Defence capability to protect NATO's populations and territories in Europe against ballistic missile attacks from the East (namely, Iran), Iran's counter-move consists in establishing a strategic base in the South American continent - in the United States's soft underbelly.

According to Die Welt, Venezuela has agreed to allow Iran to establish a military base manned by Iranian missile officers, soldiers of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and Venezuelan missile officers. In addition, Iran has given permission for the missiles to be used in case of an "emergency". In return, the agreement states that Venezuela can use these facilities for "national needs" – radically increasing the threat to neighbors like Colombia. The German daily claims that according to the agreement, Iranian Shahab 3 (range 1300-1500 km), Scud-B (285-330 km) and Scud-C (300, 500 and 700 km) will be deployed in the proposed base. It says that Iran also pledged to help Venezuela in rocket technology expertise, including intensive training of officers

Venezuela has also become the country through which Iran intends to bypass UN sanctions. Following a new round of UN sanctions against the Islamic Republic, for example, Russia decided not to sell five battalions of S-300PMU-1 air defence systems to Iran. These weapons, along with a number of other weapons, were part of a deal, signed in 2007, worth $800 million. Now that these weapons cannot be delivered to Iran, Russia is looking for new customers; according to the Russian press agency Novosti[2], it found one: Venezuela.

Novosti reports the words of Igor Korotchenko, head of a Moscow-based think tank on international arms trade, saying that if the S-300 deal with Venezuela goes through, Caracas should pay cash for the missiles, rather than take another loan from Russia. "The S-300 is a very good product and Venezuela should pay the full amount in cash, as the country's budget has enough funds to cover the deal ," Korotchenko said. Moscow has already provided Caracas with several loans to buy Russian-made weaponry, including a recent $2.2-mln loan on the purchase of 92 T-72M1M tanks, the Smerch multiple-launch rocket systems and other military equipment.

If Iran, therefore, cannot get the S-300 missiles directly from Russia, it can still have them through its proxy, Venezuela, and deploy them against its staunchest enemy, the U.S..

But that is not all. According to Reuters, Iran has developed a version of the Russian S-300 missile and will test-fire it soon, as declared by the official news agency IRNA, two months after Moscow cancelled the delivery to comply with United Nations sanctions[3]. Iran, in fact, has its own capabilities for constructing missiles that could carry atomic warheads. According to a study recently released by the International Institute of Strategic Studies in London, Iran is presently aiming to perfect the already existing solid-fuel, medium-range missile that can carry a nuke to hit regional targets, such as Israel[4]. If a missile base can be opened in Venezuela, many US cities will be able to be reached from there even with short-medium range missiles.

The situation that is unfolding in Venezuela has some resemblance to the Cuba crisis of 1962. At that time, Cuba was acting on behalf of the USSR; now Venezuela is acting on behalf of Iran. At present, the geopolitical situation is very different: the world is no longer ruled by two superpowers; new nations, often with questionable leaders and the ambition of acquiring global status, are appearing on the international scene. Their danger to the free world will be greater if the process of nuclear proliferation is not stopped. Among the nations that aspire to become world powers, Iran has certainly the best capabilities of posing a challenge to the West.

Back in the 1962, thanks to the stern stance adopted by the then Kennedy administration, the crisis was defused

Nowadays, however, we do not see the same firmness from the present administration. On the contrary, we see a lax attitude, both in language and in deeds, that results in extending hands when our adversaries have no intention of shaking hands with us. Iran is soon going to have a nuclear weapon, and there are no signs that UN sanctions will in any way deter the Ayatollah's regime from completing its nuclear program. We know that Iran already has missiles that can carry an atomic warhead over Israel and over the Arabian Peninsula. Now we learn that Iran is planning to build a missile base close to the US borders. How longer do we have to wait before the Obama administration begins to understand threats?

[1] http://www.welt.de/politik/ausland/article11219574/Iran-plant-Bau-einer-Raketenstellung-in-Venezuela.html [2] http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20101015/160963585.html [3] http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3982738,00.html [4] http://www.iiss.org/whats-new/iiss-in-the-press/november-2010/iran-fortifies-its-arsenal-with-the-aid-of-north-korea/


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To: dila813
I think we are almost to the point where we need to take them out.

Have to wait until after 2012.
41 posted on 12/09/2010 10:14:00 AM PST by crosshairs (The word for actor in Greek is hypocrite (its true).)
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To: anniegetyourgun
The only thing that keeps us secure and safe besides a military, is a prosperous and freemarket economy. Without prosperity we are not respected as a nation and culture. We are all about someone wanting to be like us or to share in our prosperity.

All that flatline talk from obomobots and our reduced stature(now we're humble, not arrogant) in the world as being a good thing was just dangerous and irresponsible.

42 posted on 12/09/2010 10:14:25 AM PST by blackdog
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To: blackdog
If Venezuela even tries to allow that missile base to be built, that base will be promptly attacked by B-1B's and B-2A's based in the USA armed with various types of "smart" bombs.

Besides, the range of these missiles threaten much of the South American continent, possibly with enough range to even take out Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro in Brazil.

43 posted on 12/09/2010 10:14:41 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Founding Father
>>>>>Can anyone say “Monroe Doctrine”?

My thoughts exactly.

44 posted on 12/09/2010 10:19:58 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: A.A. Cunningham
However, the US was already considering phasing out the Jupiter IRBM because being fueled by cryogenic fuels, it would have taken too long to make them launch ready. Remember, by 1962 the US Navy already had several George Washington-class Polaris submarines in operation, and they could reach well into the Soviet Union operating beneath the waters of the Atlantic Ocean between Iceland and Norway.
45 posted on 12/09/2010 10:20:51 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: blackdog

Granted ... I was thinking about the blockade part.


46 posted on 12/09/2010 10:23:20 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: A.A. Cunningham
It's amazing how few people know about this, and the lengths the MSM goes to make sure the number remains small.

If the missiles are to be delivered by ship, I say wait until the vessel is somewhere over the Puerto Rico trench, (the second deepest ocean trench in the world), and put a heavy torpedo into her. An electronic warfare bird in the vicinity can make sure no “mayday” messages get out and suddenly we have another victim of the Bermuda Triangle.

47 posted on 12/09/2010 10:27:27 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: brownsfan
Fitting. Jimmy Carter created the mess that is the Islamic Republic of Iran. Now the black Jimmy Carter is opening America up to a nuclear attack from Iran.

The real Jimmy Carter had a bit to do with the establishment of the current regime in Venezuela.

48 posted on 12/09/2010 10:28:23 AM PST by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Kennedy was looking to remove the Jupiter IRBM’s well before the Cuban Missile Crisis. The Jupiters were only intended as a stopgap until more reliable ICBM’s and SLBM’s were on line. The Jupiter was already obsolete in 1962. Liquid fueled, using cryogenic liquid oxygen as the oxidizer was the major risk. From go order to launch would be maybe one hour. Add the launchers were above ground fixed emplacements. So the missiles would likely never make it to launch if the balloon went up. The Soviets already knew the locations, the launch pads in Italy were overflown by Warsaw Pact reconnaisance planes.
About the same time the Minuteman missiles were coming on line (hardened silos, fast reaction time), and also the first Polaris submarine (even if they were in the East Med, try finding them, Admiral Gorschkov). One Polaris sub, with 16 missiles, sailing somewhere quantitatively replaced one Jupiter squadron. And we built 41 of them, plus the Royal Navy had theirs.
So getting rid of the Jupiters, already obsolete and an operational liability, turned out to me more of a face saving measure for Khrushchev.
The real reason why Khrushchev pulled the missiles out was not just Kennedy going to DEFCON 2, but also Castro and Che Guevara were seriously considering taking the missiles, launching, and starting WW3. A step that even Khrushchev would not take. Not the case though for Imadinnerjacket. He wants the nukes to fly, in order to bring forth his “Twelfth Imam”, and doesn’t care if his country is incinerated in the process. But also in this case, we do not have a President with the resolve to stand up to the threat. JFK was indeed ready to unleash Curtis Lemay.


49 posted on 12/09/2010 10:29:09 AM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: MissesBush
I hope America soon wakes up to the reality that not only has Obama worsened the economy through his cluelessness, he has weakened national security through his weakness.

Obama has to be impeached for incompetence and malfeasance and holding office under false pretenses. Once impeached, he can be removed.

50 posted on 12/09/2010 10:29:52 AM PST by Rapscallion (Will history judge that Obama and Soros destroyed our America?)
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To: NonValueAdded

A blockade of Cuba was a bit more to scale than a blockade of Venezuela..........You can’t blockade Venezuela!


51 posted on 12/09/2010 10:29:58 AM PST by blackdog
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To: MissesBush

Creep those nukes closer and closer, America should not play a big santa role in the world, we want the black santa who gives poisoned gifts and making us PC by being now evil, and his name is Zero. (sarc off semi)

Liberal vanity, retards and pride will kill this country... along our homosexuality experts at creeping in AIDS throughout.


52 posted on 12/09/2010 10:31:02 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrates Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: NonValueAdded

Hell, we can’t even blockade Somalia!


53 posted on 12/09/2010 10:31:07 AM PST by blackdog
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To: MissesBush
Once upon a time we could have just chuckled at this nonsense and poured ourselves another cup of Ovaltine.

Thanks for yet another screwing, McNamara. May your bones burn green.

54 posted on 12/09/2010 10:31:40 AM PST by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
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To: blackdog
Bomb it right now

Trouble is.

Top 10 Sources for U.S. Crude Oil in 2009

1. Canada – 1.94 million bpd
2. Mexico – 1.13
3. Saudi Arabia – 1.09
4. Venezuela – 1.01
5. Nigeria – 0.74
6. Angola – 0.48
7. Iraq – 0.47
8. Brazil – 0.30
9. Algeria – 0.28
10. Colombia – 0.25

Better just overthrow that little nut case.

55 posted on 12/09/2010 10:39:13 AM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff
Overthrowing the nutjob is not our business. That becomes an amorphous mission at best, with a power vacum at the middle point. Nothing negates a power vacum like a complete and total air delivered bombing of his military assets.

You just put on the calender for one day every week for a year.

56 posted on 12/09/2010 10:45:35 AM PST by blackdog
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To: RayChuang88

The revisonist history that Kennedy stood up to Khrushchev and forced the Soviets to backdown is BS. There was a quid pro quo that JFK fanatics refuse to acknowledge.


57 posted on 12/09/2010 10:46:48 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: MissesBush

Obama’s Cuban missile crisis. Will he deal with it?


58 posted on 12/09/2010 10:50:15 AM PST by Netizen
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To: A.A. Cunningham

The revisionist history that Kennedy stood up to Khrushchev and forced the Soviets to back down is BS........................................ If USA removes missiles from Turkey, USSR will remove missiles from Cuba. OK? Agreed! Da! JFK, the big myth continues.


59 posted on 12/09/2010 10:52:44 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (The candidate they smear and ridicule the most is the one they fear the most.)
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To: Founding Father

Moroe Doctrine was written at a time when our leaders believed in the U.S.

Zer0 would apologize for such a document.


60 posted on 12/09/2010 10:57:14 AM PST by ChiMark
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