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'Vandals have hacked at the heart of Christianity'
Daily Mail ^ | Dec 9th, 2010

Posted on 12/09/2010 10:33:00 AM PST by TaraP

2,000-year-old Holy Thorn Tree of Glastonbury is cut down

Vandals have destroyed one of the most celebrated Christian pilgrimage sites in Britain and chopped down a tree said to have sprouted from the staff of Joseph of Arimathea 2,000 years ago.

The Holy Thorn Tree of Glastonbury, Somerset, is visited by thousands every year to pay homage and leave tokens of worship. Those visiting today were moved to tears on finding the tree cut to a stump.

The sacred tree is unique in that it blossoms twice a year - at Christmas and Easter - and sprigs taken from the thorn are sent to The Queen each year for the festive table.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: glastonbury; josephofarimathea
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To: AppyPappy

What’s so Weird?


51 posted on 12/09/2010 11:07:06 AM PST by factmart
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To: TaraP; Islaminaction

I bet is was those damn muslims!


52 posted on 12/09/2010 11:08:01 AM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius (IQ 206....more than all Democrats combined)
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To: TaraP

The heart of Christianity is Jesus Christ, and no vandal can harm Him.


53 posted on 12/09/2010 11:09:08 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: AppyPappy
The Brits have some weird legends

That they do -- but what does that have to do with this thread.



be careful how you answer that

54 posted on 12/09/2010 11:09:49 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Isn’t that what he said?


55 posted on 12/09/2010 11:10:20 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Bon mots

Islam is from the PIT OF HELL!


56 posted on 12/09/2010 11:10:46 AM PST by factmart
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To: AD from SpringBay

Amen! You beat me to it. Still an attack on Christianity, no doubt.


57 posted on 12/09/2010 11:10:46 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: TaraP

Maybe some other limbs will be removed.


58 posted on 12/09/2010 11:12:34 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: TaraP

You can’t have anything enjoyable and meaningful around Muslims, although this is something I wouldn’t put past pop culture in general.


59 posted on 12/09/2010 11:13:02 AM PST by pallis
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To: InvisibleChurch
It’s not Biblical. Don’t make an idol out of a tree.

They didn't worship the tree. The tree was, according to legend, planted by Joseph. It's something spiritual.

Please avoid the religious strawman arguments.

60 posted on 12/09/2010 11:13:55 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: TaraP
And why does this surprise anyone? Mo-slimes and others who despise Christianity can get away with anything, and so they do this.

What will happen if they get caught? My bet is nothing. Nothing at all. We'll just tell them we're saddened. That should do some good...NOT.

61 posted on 12/09/2010 11:14:50 AM PST by neutrino (Globalization is the economic treason that dare not speak its name.(173))
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To: Sherman Logan

Even Lewis the non-Catholic wasn’t a big Cromwell fan.


62 posted on 12/09/2010 11:14:58 AM PST by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: factmart

NUKE MECCA NOW!

NO ISLAM, NO TERROR!

Sorry to change the subject. The destruction of the Glastonbury thorn tree was a despicable act. But I am encouraged to learn that thorn trees are hardy and quickly regenerate. And this tree really did originate in the Middle East.

There’s always room for miracles.


63 posted on 12/09/2010 11:16:10 AM PST by elcid1970 ("I don't like Islam and I don't trust Muslims.")
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To: lastchance
Right...Glastonbury is full of New-Agers and Gaia types.

It could actually be a christian behind the act.

64 posted on 12/09/2010 11:16:33 AM PST by what's up
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To: Bon mots

The religion of piece (chop you to pieces)


65 posted on 12/09/2010 11:19:06 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: what's up
Another theory from the Telegraph story:
The owner of Wearyall Hill is Edward James, 70, who was arrested this week in connection with the collapse of Crown Currency Exchange, of which he is a major shareholder. The company, which has 8,000 creditors, collapsed in October, owing £16 million. One possibility is that the attack may have been part of a vendetta against Mr James, who is on police bail.

Mr James said he had spoken to police about the attack on the tree "but we don't know who it (the culprit) could be yet."

He said: "People have said the tree was destroyed to get at me because of the Crown Currency Exchange affair.

"They were saying it was vendetta time. I know a lot of people are hurting at the moment but this was a very holy tree. It's weird.”


66 posted on 12/09/2010 11:20:58 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: LibLieSlayer
I will tell you one thing... I would be a worthless president but if you guys elect old LLS in 2012... my first act will be to NUKE mecca and medina.

Don't forget the Qom Bomb!!!

67 posted on 12/09/2010 11:23:05 AM PST by night reader (NRA Life Member since 1962)
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To: Tanniker Smith; Ramius; TaraP
Of course they were worshipping it. This is no different that going to the Wailing Wall or traversing to Mecca.


68 posted on 12/09/2010 11:23:39 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Stimulus ~ Response / "...and that's why the color yellow makes me sad, I think.")
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To: Bon mots

Your photographs prove I slam is a cult of ignorant fools
who worship a madman and practice a bloody and false religion from th epits of Hell itself.(And it’s embraced by th eignorant politicians here in America


69 posted on 12/09/2010 11:24:00 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: All

If they let the tree alone it may well grow back. We’ve all seen stumps with many sprouts coming out and in just a few years, the’ve turned into trunks. Often they form a tree more lovely than the original.


70 posted on 12/09/2010 11:25:11 AM PST by sanjoaquinvalley (Longtime Lady Lurker)
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To: TaraP

The “mindless vandals” might be mindless Moslems.


71 posted on 12/09/2010 11:26:14 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: TaraP
Pissing off the Ents is not a good idea.


72 posted on 12/09/2010 11:31:56 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: InvisibleChurch; Ramius; TaraP
Of course they were worshipping it. This is no different that going to the Wailing Wall or traversing to Mecca.

Glad to know that you are All-Knowing and All-Seeing and can see into all their hearts and minds.

As I will not be dragged into a Catholic v. Protestant Religious Flame War of Christianity, I will sum it up are saying that your opinions are not relevant to me as they have nothing to do with my Faith, and your presumptions are, to say the least, uncharitable and, at the other extreme, bordering on un-Christian-like.

Follow up as you will. I will neither read nor respond.

73 posted on 12/09/2010 11:32:00 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: mlizzy

Brought me to tears for a minute.

LLS


74 posted on 12/09/2010 11:39:25 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Nonsense. Do you have anything that once belonged to your parents, grandparents, or other forebearers? Something you keep on your mantel that reminds you of them?

Is that worshipping too, in your world?


75 posted on 12/09/2010 11:41:02 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: TaraP

“It was then replanted on the hill in 1951.”

Interesting history of the “tree”. In quotes as I’m not sure replanting some of its roots still qualifies as being a 2000 year-old tree.

However, that gives hope that the remnants of this tree will live on in spite of the attempts at destroying the tree. (A HUGE metaphor in there).

And interesting. Not to say that a “miracle” didn’t happen with the whole original planting, but it almost sounds like a seed was planted - and he used his staff to shove it into the dirt?

I love the old legends and stuff. Not that it makes a difference if it is real or not. Just interesting to ponder.


76 posted on 12/09/2010 11:47:43 AM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Sherman Logan
It is for things like this, malicious damage to Holy Thorn Tree of Glastonbury that the Lord giveths us the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy.


77 posted on 12/09/2010 11:48:13 AM PST by frithguild (The Democrat Party Brand - Big Government protecting Entrenched Interests from Competition)
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To: TaraP

Muslims are well known for their destruction of the religious artifacts of other countries.


78 posted on 12/09/2010 11:54:22 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: TaraP

Wood hath hope. One day it will bloom again.


79 posted on 12/09/2010 12:00:41 PM PST by Excellence (Buy Progresso, take off the label, write "not halal," mail to Campbell's soup company.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
I don't think you're getting the point. Nobody is worshipping this tree. It is a symbol of the early planting of Christianity in Britain.

The people who swed off all its limbs did so, not because they dislike trees, but because they dislike Christianity. If it were the limb-hackers' own tree--- a tree they owned ---it would be distasteful to maim it. Since it is somebody else's tree, it is a criminal offense as well as a symbolic act of odium Dei

80 posted on 12/09/2010 12:02:37 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (To the hard of hearing you shout, and for the blind you draw large and startling figures. F O'Connor)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
What a loser . .wonder what he would call this?

Topiary.

81 posted on 12/09/2010 12:06:10 PM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: InvisibleChurch

Good point.

Some people just can’t stand to read anything that threatens their paradigm.

Carry on... :-)


82 posted on 12/09/2010 12:12:41 PM PST by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

Thank you for responding. ; )


83 posted on 12/09/2010 12:32:12 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Stimulus ~ Response / "...and that's why the color yellow makes me sad, I think.")
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To: TaraP

horrible but what to expect from a Christian nation that turned it’s back on God after he saved them from destruction just 65 years ago

lampost time


84 posted on 12/09/2010 12:39:36 PM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: TaraP

I hate islam with a passion, but I’m holding off blaming muslims for this for now until the facts are known. If evidence comes to light proving muslims were behind it, then go after them hard.


85 posted on 12/09/2010 1:09:51 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: NYer; wagglebee; narses; Salvation; Pyro7480; SunkenCiv; Huber; sionnsar; Mad Dawg

ping


86 posted on 12/09/2010 1:16:43 PM PST by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Worth repeating:

A vanquished people must become used to their sacred things being
handled, fingered, licked and treated with contempt by the conqueror
.

87 posted on 12/09/2010 1:21:48 PM PST by onedoug
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To: TaraP

There’s not the slightest threat to the health of this tree. On the contrary. It’s clear from the photo that the tree has been, albeit unintentionally, pollarded. This actually prolongs the life of the tree rather than reducing it. Periodic pollarding or coppicing (in which the trunk was cut at ground level) were the traditional methods with which English woodsmen maintained ancient deciduous woodland in good health. Doesn’t work with conifers, but succeeds with most species of temperate deciduous hardwoods.


88 posted on 12/09/2010 1:47:47 PM PST by Winniesboy
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
Thanks markomalley.
"Worldwide Leader in Weird: Prince Charles: Future King of England a Crypto-Muslim?"

Worldwide Leader in Weird: Prince Charles: Future King of England a Crypto-Muslim?

89 posted on 12/09/2010 1:57:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: ahadams2; Madeleine; MWS; x_plus_one; bastantebueno55; Needham; sc70; jpr_fire2gold; ...
Sad, but the article notes it has grown back before.

Thanks to markomalley for the ping.

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90 posted on 12/09/2010 2:14:21 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: TaraP

Hardly the heart of Christianity but deplorable none the less.

Multiculturalism is grand, isn’t it.


91 posted on 12/09/2010 3:09:06 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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To: taxesareforever

Don’t you mean...if this had been done to something that muslims held in esteem you can bet there would be riots, bombings and beheadings?


92 posted on 12/09/2010 3:15:29 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: Ramius

“A relic or artifact merely provides a connection to a long past event.”

I condemn what happened, but....I suspect most religious relics of that purported age are not authentic, especially in Europe. People in the Middle Ages were largely illiterate and gullible. Mark Twain wrote hilariously funny satires about religious relics in a couple of his travel books, “Innocents Abroad” and “A Tramp Abroad”.

Flame suit on.


93 posted on 12/09/2010 3:26:43 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TaraP
This has "Mohammad was here" written all over it.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

94 posted on 12/09/2010 3:27:42 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: TexasRepublic

LOL... Oh, yes I’m sure that many so-called “relics” are just hoaxes played on some unsuspecting traveler perhaps hundreds of years ago. It would be fun to think some of them are the real deal. That you could actually hold a chunk of history in your hand... would be cool.


95 posted on 12/09/2010 3:52:46 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: GraceG
Could a tree surgeon do some emergency surgery to fix the tree?

With the branches are all cut off? I doubt it can be saved.

I think the "tragedy" here is way over-rated, because, after all, the Puritans cut down the (supposed) original tree, and this one only dates back to 1951 (read the story). I'm sure there are plenty of clippings and other growths of the original tree out there to regrow a new one, perhaps behind a stout wall or fence....

96 posted on 12/09/2010 4:45:25 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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To: 2banana
I noticed that they showed a woman getting a clipping of some of the twigs.

I wonder if they could make a graft to start a new tree?

97 posted on 12/09/2010 5:10:48 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: TaraP

THX THX.

UGLY FER SURE.


98 posted on 12/09/2010 8:04:10 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: kalee

I stand corrected.


99 posted on 12/09/2010 10:16:44 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: Tanniker Smith
They didn't worship the tree. The tree was, according to legend, planted by Joseph. It's something spiritual. Please avoid the religious strawman arguments.

There is nothing spiritual about a tree and it should have been cut down by Christians as soon as people thought there was!

100 posted on 12/09/2010 10:54:37 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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