Posted on 12/12/2010 10:47:16 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
That’s enough for me too. I don’t think I’ll be pinging you any time soon with that update so perhaps we’ll see each other on another topic. heh
Got me there...my heaviest PIC is in a Beech 18...;o)
Oh, that’s right...foreshortening. Which you believe makes it impossible to plot a straight line across known geographic points on a map. Again...keep bringing this stuff up. It’s like Finny and her post counting. It makes you your own worst advocate.
Your head is emptier than 0bama’s suit. :-)
Again, I'm a wannabe. That is still one of the most beautiful airplanes out there.
Ok. You made me laugh there.
My 350 HP R755 Turbo Jake burns 17 GPH in cruise and even that is more than I can really afford...and a Beech 18 sports two 450 HP Wasp Jr's....Lordy!!...Ka Ching Ka Ching Ka Ching!....:o)
Alright, buddy. Glad you found the humor in it. I really have to take my eyes off of this monitor now before the glaze on them dries permanently. See ya next round.
Yeah, but you look good even sitting on the ramp. I've never flown a taildragger. Someday. But it's going to be a while before I can afford anything beyond LSA. A buddy just retired and bought a 210. It's burning 20GPH. I cringe at filling up my jeep.
Well, obviously, based on all the data available, there must have been some change in atmospheric condition that caused it to stop leaving a contrail since it appears that an altitude change didn't cause it. That can happen, you know.
There was an actual missile launch from VAFB yesterday, someone should see if they can find photos of that to compare and contrast.
“you go ahead and apply your “government lies” about every possible thing.”
Like unemployment records for example? All these ‘modifications’? Fabrication of inflation stats.
You go ahead and keep trusting the government.
[crickets]
Contrails on commercial jets just aren’t that large compared to the size of the jet. There might be a few exeptions [I guess], but it looks funny. Maybe that sounds simplistic, but combine that with the corkscrew pattern, I just don’t buy it.
WND quoted both leading sources [Warren & Leyvas] as either convinced it’s not a missile or might not be a missile. Therefore, the claim of a ‘fabrication’ and ‘tale’ seems impossible to me. Fabricating doubt is absolute rubbish.
And why were people so eager to back up this slander?
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View the google-earth-based video at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJwQNdadIv4
Toward the end, it addresses the SeeBS graphic you are discussing.
Keep in mind that it was "Sweeps Week" and SeeBS was floundering for anything that would attract viewers -- even if they had to fabricate "news" and graphics from a routine event.
That SeeBS map has as much factual basis as their anchors' hype line that "It Lit Up The Sky!!"
-- and as much credibility as SeeBS's claim that they had shown "RAW VIDEO".
Watch the Google Earth video; several of us have used it as a tutorial on using Google Earth to examine the data for ourselves. And I, who have used Google Earth to view the files used to create the video -- and to replicate what is discussed in the video -- find it to be 100% accurate.
Watch the Google Earth video -- and judge for yourself...
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The "plume" was never reported over Catalina Island -- nor has anyone claimed that it was. The "plume" ended before the object passed over Catalina -- because UPS 902 passed from a region where persistent ice crystals were formed into a region where only volatile water droplets were formed. (Or, as Levyas said, it "detached from the plume".)
It appears that you have a lot of catching up to do... :-)
You "misunderestimate" his density... '-)...
Yes, I see the swirls. But the contrail doesn’t reveal the sharp corkscrew.
As for missiles and early corkscrews, for all we know, it could have been a defective launch, right? While I don’t claim to have any knowledge about this, here’s a fellow freeper who impressed me as someone who does have knowledge:
OldMissileer: “That is a sub launched ballistic missile and it looks as if its’ trajectory was taking it toward Kwajalein Atoll where we target our western test launches.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2624382/posts?page=47#47
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As I watched the video from the original news program the plume is at the horizon but the telltale is the plume itself.
A SLBM breaches the surface and the engines fire. The missile rises vertical as it stabilizes itself and then orients itself. Once it has settled down it starts the pitch program to send it toward its intended target.
The vertical flight is only several hundred feet and you can see the vertical portion of the plume in the original video from the news station. You can also see the wider smoke base on the video where the engine start sequence initiated.
[unquote] — OldMissileer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2624382/posts?page=134#134
Your response failed to answer the most basic question:
how did WND fabricate a ‘tale’? Did you slander WND or not?
God bless you, Finny. Thank you for sharing your information/take/ and a little bit about you. Glad to have a chance to swap posts with you!
So, since the missile was 35 miles away [curved horizon chopping off the view of the actual launch], seeing the corkscrew at the bottom is not inconsistent with a missile? If the actual launch was in line of sight, there might not have been a corkscrew visible at the very bottom of a distant camera shot?
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