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Breyer: Founding Fathers Would Have Allowed Restrictions on Guns
Foxnews ^ | Dec 12, 2010 | Foxnews

Posted on 12/12/2010 11:33:59 AM PST by driftdiver

If you look at the values and the historical record, you will see that the Founding Fathers never intended guns to go unregulated, Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer contended Sunday.

Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," Breyer said history stands with the dissenters in the court's decision to overturn a Washington, D.C., handgun ban in the 2008 case "D.C. v. Heller."

Breyer wrote the dissent and was joined by Justices John Paul Stevens, David H. Souter and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. He said historians would side with him in the case because they have concluded that Founding Father James Madison was more worried that the Constitution may not be ratified than he was about granting individuals the right to bear arms.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; billofrights; davidsouter; johnpaulstevens; partyoftreason; ruthbaderginsburg; scotus; secondamendment; shallnotbeinfringed; stephenbreyer
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To: Kevmo

The Judiciary was not meant to be a nascent Krytocracy.


121 posted on 12/12/2010 4:13:18 PM PST by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: driftdiver

>He’s a Supreme Court Justice and hasn’t figured out the govt didn’t grant individuals squat.

There are actually some rights that are NOT inherent, those ARE granted by some institution/group; the right to vote is an example. There is, in a strict monarchy, no right to vote; however, there is *ALWAYS* the right for you to defend yourself... even in our own prisons, where weapons aren’t allowed & freedom restricted, the inmate has the right to defend himself.


122 posted on 12/12/2010 4:13:52 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: driftdiver
..shall not be infringed
123 posted on 12/12/2010 4:16:29 PM PST by 2111USMC
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To: OneWingedShark

Voting is a privilege granted to citizens who meet certain requirements.


124 posted on 12/12/2010 4:17:05 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
"Are you a sportsman? Do you like to shoot pistols at targets? Well, get on the subway and go to Maryland. There is no problem, I don't think, for anyone who really wants to have a gun."

"And if gun laws render you unarmed and result in your murder at the hands of an armed home invader," Breyer added, "well, that's what you get for electing the kind of liberal Democrats who appoint and confirm scumbags like me to the freaking US supreme Court. Hahaha-haaa."

125 posted on 12/12/2010 4:17:48 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: scrabblehack

Yep your correct it was the dishonorable asshat Souter not the dishonorable asshat Breyer...


126 posted on 12/12/2010 4:18:05 PM PST by JohnD9207 (John McCain is a proud Ted Kennedy conservative!)
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To: PapaBear3625
"At the Founding, there were privately owned CANNON that would have cleared out a schoolyard much faster than any AK-47."

Yup, a few wealthy types privately owned what was the days equivalent of a fully armed Navy destroyer. You could own whatever weaponry you could afford, no questions asked.

127 posted on 12/12/2010 4:18:56 PM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: driftdiver

he ought to go back to making ice cream


128 posted on 12/12/2010 4:19:00 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: driftdiver

What a dunce.


129 posted on 12/12/2010 4:20:33 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: driftdiver; DaveLoneRanger

WTF?
(ping of interest DLR).

If one understands society of the day, that is like saying they would have allowed restrictions on forks or axes. It was a tool of everyday life. It not only was an item to defend your life, liberty, and property, but it was a tool to sustain your family.

It is obvious that the Founders saw and new of attempts to limit arms by those who wanted to control liberty, which is why they explicitly forbid the government to infringe on ownership. The European they escaped from and rebelled against had one of the early forms of arms control where lords forbid the serfs to own arms (unless they deemed necessary) in order to hold on to their power. Seems we are moving back to that old European feudalistic culture under Breyer.


130 posted on 12/12/2010 4:20:38 PM PST by mnehring
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To: cbkaty
Q. What do you call a lawyer with an I.Q. of 50?

A. "Your Honor"

131 posted on 12/12/2010 4:21:00 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: Gadsden1st
Sarah can increase the number and pack the court when we elect her in 2012.

We would be better off reducing the court back to five as it was before Roosevelt raised it to nine and packed it. I'll pick the four to retire. You can trust me.

132 posted on 12/12/2010 4:23:28 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: driftdiver

What is this idiot doing on the supreme court? Does he not know the purpose of the second amendment? Does he not understand the consequences of an all-powerful government?

Oh, I think he understands perfectly. It’s just that he’s a leftie and lefties don’t like sharing power with the masses. He knows that the second amendment is the only thing left with which to defend the rest of the constitution and he hates that.


133 posted on 12/12/2010 4:23:43 PM PST by meyer (Hey Obama - It's the end of the world as you know it.... ..... and I feel fine!)
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To: driftdiver

What amazes me is that this cretin is considered ‘qualified’ to be a justice on the SCOTUS. Firearms were the rule, not the exception in the time our Founders lived. As common to see as horse shite in the road.


134 posted on 12/12/2010 4:23:56 PM PST by jla
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To: cbkaty

Amen to that. We sure do give them godlike status as well as godlike powers


135 posted on 12/12/2010 4:28:54 PM PST by winodog
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To: DemonDeac
You're dead wrong about Thomas.

I've met the man, he's sharp and he's knowledgeable. Just because he doesn't run his mouth at oral argument doesn't mean he's "an idiot".

Look online for the recording of a talk and question-and-answer session he had with a group of high school students. He's very articulate and has some interesting things to say - one of the first questions is why he doesn't ask many questions at OA. He gives a thoughtful answer which may interest you -- I say may because it sounds like your mind is already made up.

136 posted on 12/12/2010 4:29:40 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: SampleMan

You might want to verify those quotes. The George Washington one I know is bogus - not sure about some of the others. The Franklin one sounds much too modern.


137 posted on 12/12/2010 4:31:24 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: mojitojoe
You're right, but I hope when Claire Wolfe's alarm clock does finally ring, it's loud enough to wake up all the sleeping patriots. It's time to stand up for this nation, not desert it. Patriots, think long and hard about your choices.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

138 posted on 12/12/2010 4:32:18 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: driftdiver

Dumb as a box of rocks.


139 posted on 12/12/2010 4:32:45 PM PST by Tax-chick (He will be Peace.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

You met Clarence Thomas? Well, I met Thomas Sowell, so there!

In other news, Bill got an improbably high PSAT score. We’re all still in shock. Probably not a National Merit Scholarship, but the Army ROTC recruiter is going to be climbing in throught dryer vent.


140 posted on 12/12/2010 4:36:33 PM PST by Tax-chick (He will be Peace.)
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