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U.S. expert calls for increasing American troop presence in S. Korea to stop NK provocations
Yonhap News ^ | 12/14/10 | hang Jae-soon

Posted on 12/14/2010 12:15:24 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster

U.S. expert calls for increasing American troop presence in S. Korea to stop NK provocations

By Chang Jae-soon

SEOUL, Dec. 14 (Yonhap) -- The United States should seriously think about stationing more troops in South Korea to deter further North Korean provocations, a U.S. expert and former White House security official said Tuesday amid high tensions over the North's artillery shelling of a South Korean island.

"The single most important indicator, symbolic and significant indicator of U.S. commitment, security commitment to South Korea, has been its troop presence on the peninsula," Georgetown University professor Victor Cha said during a speech at the Korea Chamber of Commerce and Industry.

"Even a symbolic increase in that troop presence will send a very clear message to North Korea and to China that there are real costs to continued North Korean provocations," he told a forum of South Korean business leaders.

Cha, one of the best-known security experts on Korea, had served as the Asian affairs director at the White House's National Security Council in the previous U.S. administration and as a U.S. negotiator in six-party talks on North Korea's nuclear programs.

About 28,500 American troops are stationed in South Korea to deter threats from the communist North, a legacy of the 1950-53 Korean War that ended in a truce, not a peace treaty, leaving the two sides still technically at war.

Tensions on the divided peninsula have spiked after the North's Nov. 23 shelling of the South's Yeonpyeong Island, which killed four people, including two civilians. The artillery attack came eight months after the North torpedoed a South Korean warship, killing 46 sailors.

Pyongyang has also ratcheted up nuclear tensions last month with revelations that it has a facility to enrich uranium that can be used to fuel atomic bombs if highly enriched. The uranium program gives North Korea a second way of making nuclear weapons after its plutonium-based program.

Cha praised the measures the current U.S. government has taken to deter North Korea following the island shelling, such as holding joint military exercises with South Korea more frequently, bolstering trilateral relations with South Korea and Japan, and calling on China to exercise its influence over North Korea.

But he also suggested other options to discourage North Korea from provocations, including increasing American troop levels in South Korea and getting the U.N. Security Council to adopt a resolution authorizing the use of force against the North.

"A U.N. Security Council resolution that authorizes the use of force in response to further North Korean attacks would be something new and it would be a clear sign that the U.N. stands behind the United States and South Korea," Cha said.

"The United States and South Korea are not obligated to act on that resolution but having the resolution in place will send a very clear signal to countries about how serious the situation is."

Cha said the recently concluded free trade agreement between Seoul and Washington would also help enhance relations between the two countries, saying the accord is not simply a trade deal, but it will have wider impacts on relations between the two allies.

The "negotiations were negotiated by trade people. But the argument for its passage in the Congress will be a strategic argument. I don't think it will just be trade and jobs argument," he said.

"Whether it's Vice President (Joseph) Biden or Secretary of State (Hillary) Clinton, when they start calling up congressmen and senators about the need to get this agreement passed, they will talk about it not just as a trade agreement, but as something we need to tighten the relationship even more in the face of North Korean threats."

On the power transition in North Korea, Cha expressed strong skepticism that Kim Jong-un, the foreign-educated youngest son of leader Kim Jong-il, will carry out any reforms. North Korea has made the junior Kim a four-star general and given him senior Workers' Party titles in steps to put him in place to take over after his father.

"I think the more people have looked at this, the more that they have reached the conclusion that the young North Korean leader is not likely to bring major change or major reform to the North Korean system," the expert said, citing fears about regime survival as one of the reasons.

"Kim Jong-il and Kim Jong-un both know that reform is essential to the North Korean system, that the North Korean system will not survive unless it reforms," Cha said.

"The dilemma that they face is any effort at reform will ultimately lead to the collapse of political control. And that is simply a trade-off that the current or future government are not willing to make."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nkorea; skorea; troopincrease

1 posted on 12/14/2010 12:15:27 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


2 posted on 12/14/2010 12:16:09 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bah.

Getting a UN Security Council resolution authorizing force will not happen. Call Morty and make book on it.

If we wanted to impress upon the Norks that we’re serious, we’d let it “slip” that we’ve moved two boomers into the area so close that we could hit them with a depressed trajectory shot in minutes. Move a few attack subs into the area to insure their navy could be bottomed quickly if we want.

And then... don’t say a thing in public. Deny any questions about these movements. Wave a hand, dismiss it as press fantasy. And whatever we do, we do NOT go to the UN to complain or explain.

These morons we now seem to install in government need to re-learn TR’s dictum: Speak softly, carry a big stick.

Of course, this is all fantasy, what with the Ivy Leaguers in power. I’m sure we’ll go to the UN and talk, talk, talk, and talk some more. Blah, blah, blah. More jobs for ratchet-jawed purveyors of monkey doodle.


3 posted on 12/14/2010 12:43:31 AM PST by NVDave
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Kenyan won’t do it.


4 posted on 12/14/2010 12:45:34 AM PST by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013- The end of an error.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Oh, please. The last thing we to do send over more cannon fodder for the thousands of Nork artillery.

Here's my war-monger take: Pull our Troops out and let South Korea deal it, until the Norks hit them too hard and we send some Trident-based nukes over and put out the last of their lights as seen from satellites. Since that won't happen, how about massive air-bombing and cruise missles?

I'm so sick of this collateral damage wussification (remember Dresdan?). I would rather their children die than ours or our Allies. I'm done with these wanna be nuke a-holes. Just friggin kill them now while we have the upper hand.

5 posted on 12/14/2010 12:53:23 AM PST by A Navy Vet
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To: NVDave

Actually, it is about this time that some NK sub should go missing.


6 posted on 12/14/2010 12:58:06 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

That would certainly work, but it is a direct escalation if evidence comes up “how” it “went missing.”

What we need is a way to put one of their subs on the bottom with nothing being communicated or coming to the top. A pretty tall order as I understand it.


7 posted on 12/14/2010 1:00:27 AM PST by NVDave
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Not gonna happen with the current strain on US forces... plus, the South Koreans have long been trying to reduce the presence of US forces in their country.

So why should we put our troops into a country that doesn’t want them?


8 posted on 12/14/2010 1:14:59 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It’s been abundantly clear for many, many years that the only American troop presence that will stop North Korean provocation is an American troop presence in Pyongyang.

That, however, is something we are unlikely to see any time soon.


9 posted on 12/14/2010 1:20:44 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: A Navy Vet

I’m kind of in agreement...just pull our guys out. In fact, if you wanted to humiliate the NK crowd...just say that they weren’t really a threat to anyone and it was a waste of time to stay there.


10 posted on 12/14/2010 2:15:19 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Give the South a couple of nukes, pull our boys out and let Korea defend itself.

Tell China to stay out of it.


11 posted on 12/14/2010 2:48:32 AM PST by Bon mots ("Anything you say, can and will be construed as racist...")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I call for action(s) that Victor Cha would not or could not publicly say in such a gathering.

Only THEN will they know we are "serious".

I'm talking true hardball here.

Considering nothing else has worked to-date.

12 posted on 12/14/2010 2:50:02 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (**George W Bush** bears as much responsibility as CARTER, CLINTON and OBAMA over N. Korean nukes)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

No. Just no.

Now is not the time because of the recent NK actions. But I don’t think having a bunch of American troops hostage to the actions of NK is a good idea and would withdraw them.

SK is a wealthy, advanced nation that can afford it’s own defense. I would sell them weaponry and support them with air and naval assets in the event of a war. But American troops on the ground just make it easy for the SK’s not to have a sufficient defense capability themselves.


13 posted on 12/14/2010 3:22:00 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I think it will happen. Chia Head and his junior will be back with bigger provocation soon. They are trying to show that containment and sanction won't work. They are hoping more Joel Wit and Selig Harrison will spring up everywhere.

This will get really dangerous not because we are too tough but we will soon show sign of wavering, giving wrong signal to NK's father and son duo, along with Chicom ruling elites, that one more big push will completely crack our resolve for sustained stand-off.

In the end, we will pay for not being steadfast enough.

14 posted on 12/14/2010 3:23:25 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“U.S. expert calls for increasing American troop presence in S. Korea to stop NK provocations”

That will work about as well as raising taxes on cigarettes to get people to stop smoking.


15 posted on 12/14/2010 3:32:22 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: RoadTest

We’ve been there since 1950.
If the ROK troops can’t defend themselves now, when will they ?


16 posted on 12/14/2010 5:02:29 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo

Victor Cha has been calling for an increased US troop presence in SK for the last week or so. He wrote a piece last week called Strategic Logic on the Korean Peninsula Headed Toward War

http://cogitasia.com/2010/12/07/strategic-logic-on-the-korean-peninsula-headed-towardwar/

Interesting that the Korean press is now picking up on the story.


17 posted on 12/14/2010 5:24:52 AM PST by jhpigott
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To: jhpigott
Suddenly some locals in S. Korea start to talk about war.
Previously, it is basically ‘politically incorrect’ to do so.
I see the abrupt change of their sentiment: the war was once casually dismissed, but no more. Political correctness is breaking down.
18 posted on 12/14/2010 5:43:51 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Japanese TV tonight showed ROK heavy duty tanks blasting the ever living hell out of some mountainside in Paju County up near the DMZ, as part of their military training. I believe the footage was shot day before yesterday. Said the South was on "war footing", and ended the story by saying such maneuvers certainly were close to the DMZ, probably loud enough to be heard by the KPA just across the MDL. If that's the case, then, good. And thank goodness they did not show Pyongyang Patty tonight, spouting some bile on Korean Central TV (North Korea), as they often do, with Japanese subtitles.

PS Last night TBS TV showed a great docu-drama, on the Korean Airlines midair bombing (1988) performed by NK female agent Kim Hyong Hee, Japanese voice-over of a South Korean drama it seems.

19 posted on 12/14/2010 7:01:41 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (**George W Bush** bears as much responsibility as CARTER, CLINTON and OBAMA over N. Korean nukes)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Pyongyang Patty has very haughty and rude tone. Too often she blatantly talking down to viewers as if she were reading out sentence to the condemned. I bet she is also pissing off many N. Koreans who are watching daily news.

Probably the first person to be clubbed to death by angry mob when NK regime falls.

20 posted on 12/14/2010 7:07:47 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Yes, she will indeed be one of those must publicly strung up in Kimilsung Square upon liberation for her complicity in KWP crimes...that is, unless she somehow flees to China via their northern border. She will have to travel light and certainly disguise herself as hundreds of thousands of angry, freed citizens will recognize her ugly, vociferous mug immediately.

She sounds so robotic rolling off all those puffed up titles of the Great Leader before each and every report about one of his pathetic "on the spot" guidances.

Also, do the really realize how foolish, amateurish and desperate they look in the eyes of the whole world with a 15-minute report at the top of the hour about Kim Jong-il visiting the site of some run of the mill highrise apartments in Pyongyang under construction, and giving orders with his ridiculous poking finger aimed at the guys pouring cement or installing drywall?

21 posted on 12/14/2010 7:19:23 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (**George W Bush** bears as much responsibility as CARTER, CLINTON and OBAMA over N. Korean nukes)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Kim's on-site guidance is such a joke. Sometimes I wonder if this is Kim's way of showing his absolute power by forcing his subjects to play along with such ridiculous rituals.:-)
22 posted on 12/14/2010 7:28:20 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: AmericanInTokyo
I mean this is so 1930-ish Soviet Union. NK regime took Stalin's model and pushed it miles further.
23 posted on 12/14/2010 7:33:05 AM PST by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Where are the troops going to come from?

With a 10 Division Regular Army and a Three MEF Marine Corps, we just don’t have the horses to get it done, not with two major deployments going on at the moment.

Even if the troops existed, we don’t have the logistics to support them.

The ROK is on it’s own on this one unless they accept help from the IJSDF, which is really unlikely.


24 posted on 12/14/2010 11:43:24 AM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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