Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Polls buoy Allen in prospects for Senate rematch (VA)
The Washinton Times ^ | 6:59p.m., Tuesday, December 14, 2010 | By Joseph Weber

Posted on 12/15/2010 5:14:13 AM PST by onyx

Virginia's Webb under 50 percent

Virginia Republicans are eagerly eyeing a potential rematch between freshman Democratic Sen. Jim Webb and former GOP Sen. George Allen, who has posted strong numbers in early polls and has the backing of the party establishment in what could be one of the bellwether races of the 2012 cycle.

Mr. Webb's upset victory in 2006 was hailed as a key blow by Democrats to turn the once strongly Republican-leaning state into a political battleground. Barack Obama's victory in the state in the 2008 presidential race appeared to solidify the Old Dominion's status as a swing state.

But Republicans have bounced back, recapturing the governor's mansion in 2009 and knocking off three Democratic members of Congress in the November midterm elections. Mr. Allen, many Republicans believe, is poised to build on those gains.

Mr. Allen, a former governor before being elected to the Senate in 2000, "is Webb's biggest nightmare," said GOP strategist Tom Edmonds. "George Allen is in synch with the Virginia electorate. He also was a conservative long before the 'tea party' movement and one who doesn't frighten Republicans or Democrats. Allen will be able to grab the attention of conservatives all over the country."

A rematch isn't a certainty: Mr. Webb has not committed to running for a second term, and Mr. Allen has not declared himself a candidate. But the Republican has stepped up his attacks on his successor, criticizing his recent votes supporting union organizing rights for some public-sector safety workers and against banning congressional spending earmarks.

Mr. Allen pointedly noted that Mr. Webb on those votes broke with his fellow Democratic senator from Virginia, Mark Warner.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: allen2012; georgeallen; jimwebb; va2012; virginia

1 posted on 12/15/2010 5:14:16 AM PST by onyx
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: onyx
A rematch isn't a certainty: Mr. Webb has not committed to running for a second term ...

Actually, yes he has. I'm on his email list and he has been soliciting donations for his reelection effort in 2012.
2 posted on 12/15/2010 5:19:37 AM PST by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: onyx

Allen. A professional has-been. Could not handle a simple kid with a camera trying to smear him.

I’m sure he’s a real nice guy. We need people who can fight back against the unfair coverage, not wilt under it.


3 posted on 12/15/2010 5:20:02 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: sam_paine

I wonder if Ken Cuccinelli would consider running? He’d clean Webb’s clock and pretty much guarantee that Warner won’t get back in either.


4 posted on 12/15/2010 5:30:41 AM PST by 84rules ( Ooh-Rah! Semper Fi!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: onyx

Re-machaca!


5 posted on 12/15/2010 5:41:35 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Grammar police off-duty. But I saw what you did.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 84rules

He would certainly have my vote!


6 posted on 12/15/2010 5:45:50 AM PST by Library Lady
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: 84rules

I know, me too.


7 posted on 12/15/2010 5:48:16 AM PST by republicangel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: onyx

Any repub/conservative/tea party member over Webb. Get rid of every ‘rat/socialist/progressive/collectivist freedom-extinguishing SCUMBAG.


8 posted on 12/15/2010 5:55:06 AM PST by PGalt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Corin Stormhands

Allen ping

You think he could really pull it off? I’d love to shove it down the Post’s throat.


9 posted on 12/15/2010 6:36:18 AM PST by nina0113
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nina0113

I think several things have happened since 2006 that make it very possible for George Allen to win in 2012. Not the least among them is buyer’s remorse over Jim Webb.

Most people who look at it honestly understand that macaca was a stupid mistake, but more than that it was an orchestrated witch hunt.

I will be doing everything I can got get George Allen back in office.


10 posted on 12/15/2010 6:39:15 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (There's only ONE reason for this season.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: onyx

Allen’s biggest mistake was that he apologized for that “macaca” issue... repeatedly. He should’ve put the issue quietly to sleep by stressing more pressing issues. He’s a strong conservative, and I for one would be happy to have him back representing the Old Dominion.


11 posted on 12/15/2010 6:44:48 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: onyx

That would be a huge pickup. Trade a loon for a conservative.


12 posted on 12/15/2010 7:02:57 AM PST by SC_Pete
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: onyx

...now that Virginia voters know real maccaca when they see it...


13 posted on 12/15/2010 7:37:11 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Corin Stormhands
Is there anything to indicate Allen learned his lesson as a result of the macacca incident? Has he acquired more fire in the belly? That's what we need in the U.S. Senate.

We do not need more Orrin Hatch type nice guys who think liberals are just misguided people who have different ideas on how to govern the country sort of like Walter Mondale or the modern dwindling stock equivalent of liberals who are also nice guys.

Right now, I can't think of one prominent liberal whom I would consider a gentlemen or a nice guy in the Walter Mondale mold. They are all either mindless dupes (such as Patricia Bin Murray or Bob Casey, Jr.) or downright evil (such as Dick Durbin or Harry Reid).

14 posted on 12/15/2010 7:49:23 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 84rules

I doubt Cucinelli would run. He’d need to quit as AG and I’ve read that his plan is to seek a second term in that office.


15 posted on 12/15/2010 8:09:01 AM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: onyx

Mark Warner? Sheesh. Haven’t hear a peep from him since election night. In 2014, the Republicans can certainly us the fact that he did nothing and it would be valid.


16 posted on 12/15/2010 8:24:43 AM PST by napscoordinator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman

They are all either mindless dupes (such as Patricia Bin Murray or Bob Casey, Jr.) or downright evil (such as Dick Durbin or Harry Reid).

I always wondered where Feinstein fit in. She is not a dupe and not really evil, but not a “Walter Mondale” either.


17 posted on 12/15/2010 8:28:21 AM PST by napscoordinator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: napscoordinator
Good point. Maybe we have to create a 4th category for DiFi and call her a "floater" since she seems to fit in all three camps, depending on the issue, but really can't stay in any of them. The soon-to-be ex-senator from Arkansas Blanche Lincoln and Mary Landrieu would be other examples of floaters.

I think Claire McCaskill of Missouri would like to be a floater, but doesn't quite have the brains to graduate out of the dupe class.

18 posted on 12/15/2010 8:38:38 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: ScottinVA
"Allen’s biggest mistake was that he apologized for that “macaca” issue... repeatedly."

Another huge mistake he made was attacking Jim Webb's books he wrote. I thought that was kind of dumb and showed desperation. Unfortunately, Webb didn't have a record back then to burn him on. He does now. He's voted for many of Obama's garbage, not the least among them, health care. Pound him over the head with the health care vote.

It's weird, if you read Webb's book, "Born Fighting", its basically an homage to the Scotch Irish. However, it praises all of these conservatives and conservative values, like Reagan. Webb was a conservative at one time, he sold out to get a Senate seat.
19 posted on 12/15/2010 9:11:15 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: onyx

I would love to have another chance to vote for Allen. He’s a superb candidate and was a good senator. A lot of folks are dumping on him for that “macaca” business, but the playing field was very different a few years ago. The WaPost has lost a lot of influence, people have their belly full of 0bama and I think a lot of Virginians have finally wised up to the media’s tricks. The WaPost/Webb sleaze machine that slimed Allen in 2006 is going to be a lot harder to crank up in 2012


20 posted on 12/15/2010 9:16:37 AM PST by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freespirited

Cucinelli is a great AG. I’d lke to see him get a second term and then go on to the Governor’s mansion. Or higher. Much higher. As far as I’m concerned, he’s Presidential timber someday.


21 posted on 12/15/2010 9:22:36 AM PST by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Vigilanteman; ScottinVA; Old Teufel Hunden

I think Allen learned quite a bit from the macaca incident. But his biggest mistake wasn’t macaca or the attack on Webb’s books.

The biggest mistake was not taking the Senate campaign seriously enough with an eye on the White House (even Rush was promoting him). That’s why Dick Wadhams was brought in after the successful SD campaign for John Thune.

When macaca hit, Wadhams misplayed it and pushed Allen to the multiple apologies. When the poll numbers began to sink, they didn’t have enough opposition research to hit Webb with anything other than his writing and “Webb hates women.”

In spite of all that, on a night when Republicans were being slaughtered nationwide, Allen lost by less than half a percentage point.

For those reasons, and more, that I won’t go into on these threads, the 2006 campaign was different than any other Allen campaign I’ve seen in the 25 years I’ve known him.

All that to say, yes, he’s ready for his closeup.


22 posted on 12/15/2010 9:49:09 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (There's only ONE reason for this season.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: ScottinVA

I agree. The nasty news media wouldn’t relent and George Allen didn’t manage to move onto other issues. It was a stupid ‘gotcha’ then and it’s even more dumb today. A total non-starter.


23 posted on 12/15/2010 9:59:04 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: jboot

I really liked George Allen, too. I was pretty happy to come across this article.


24 posted on 12/15/2010 10:01:36 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Corin Stormhands

GOOD to hear, Corin!


25 posted on 12/15/2010 10:02:47 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: 84rules

LOL. Of course he running for reelection and I hope he gets clobbered.


26 posted on 12/15/2010 10:04:24 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Corin Stormhands
"All that to say, yes, he’s ready for his closeup."

Let's hope it's better than hers...


27 posted on 12/15/2010 10:41:35 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: onyx

Both Allen and Ken Cuc. could beat Webb if if if the voters who put the new House together, can come out in droves to defeat Obama on the top of the ticket.


28 posted on 12/15/2010 11:04:18 AM PST by phillyfanatic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jboot

I second the motion. He is doing a great job, and driving the RATS crazy in the process!


29 posted on 12/15/2010 11:43:02 AM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks onyx.
Democratic Sen. Jim Webb['s]... upset victory in 2006 was hailed as a key blow by Democrats to turn the once strongly Republican-leaning state into a political battleground. Barack Obama's victory in the state in the 2008 presidential race appeared to solidify the Old Dominion's status as a swing state. But Republicans have bounced back, recapturing the governor's mansion in 2009 and knocking off three Democratic members of Congress in the November midterm elections.

30 posted on 12/15/2010 7:27:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jboot
Cucinelli is a great AG. I’d lke to see him get a second term and then go on to the Governor’s mansion. Or higher. Much higher. As far as I’m concerned, he’s Presidential timber someday.

That is exactly what I have been thinking for some time now. Have you heard him speak? He's very, very good. Definitely Presidential material.

31 posted on 12/15/2010 7:45:14 PM PST by OldPossum
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: sam_paine

Well said. Honestly, has he nothing better to do with his life? His dad is rolling over in his grave.


32 posted on 12/15/2010 7:47:53 PM PST by rabidralph
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: OldPossum

Cucinelli spoke at our church a few years ago in support of the marriage amendment and I had the pleasure of eating lunch with him afterwards. He is one of the best speakers in today’s Republican party.


33 posted on 12/16/2010 8:49:40 AM PST by jboot (Let Christ be true and every man a liar.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson