Skip to comments.Message from a Marine: Donít Break the Military
Posted on 12/17/2010 2:01:14 PM PST by kingattax
The United States Senate is poised to take one of the most fateful votes in its history. It is expected perhaps as early as tomorrow to decide whether to impose the radical homosexual agenda on Americas armed forces.
Unless 41 Senators object to taking such a momentous step during a lame-duck session, without serious debate and in the absence of powerful evidence of its inadvisability, Congress will surely destroy the all-volunteer military.
That view has been expressed as eloquently and as forcefully by the 30th Commandant of the Marine Corps, General Carl Mundy USMC (Ret.) as by any of his comrades still in uniform or others knowledgeable about what is at stake.
He wrote a letter to members of the Senate that is the single most impressive piece of official correspondence I have read in 35 years of involvement in national security policy-making.
(Excerpt) Read more at bigpeace.com ...
That’s what Obama and his lefties want. This isn’t about equal rights. It all about neutering the US military. Wake up America, the Democrat Party hates you!
Very bad news for the military and the future of our country if this passes.
Message from patriots to Marine... please get off your butt and secure 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It has been occupied by a foreign force and it is your duty to uphold your Constitutional oath and defend us...
I can see the buses pulling into Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island. Instead of a DI running on the bus waving a 45 screaming his ass off to get you off the bus in the old days we will have a DI with a pink scarf boarding the bus and saying, Will you silly boys please follow me off the bus.
THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT
MILITARY: Marines lead opposition to repeal of dont ask, dont tell
Army, Marine chiefs cast doubt on gay service
Dont Repeal Dont Ask/Dont Tell
~Dont sacrifice unit cohesion for a social experiment.~
..Both issueswomen in combat and gays in the militaryare different manifestations of a single problem: the failure of Americas political leadership to understand the factors that motivate men to fight in battle and to continue fighting under the most horrific conditionswhat professionals call combat effectiveness and unit cohesion respectively. In all the discussions of the issue, these terms seldom come up; when they do, it is only to be dismissed out of hand by those who wish to see all military positions opened to both women and homosexuals.
Those who have never served in combat have no idea what it is like...
Mullen: Troops Who Balk at Change in Gay Service Policy Can Find Other Work
Mullen says it's off to re-education for our troops or the only other option is get the H out. Zero leadership.
How we need Gen. Peter Pace.
Amen, to that.
As far as I am concerned, if the Homo Hoedown bill passes, all volunteer and career military are IMMEDIATELY released from their obligation to serve. They can turn in their equipment, leave the base, and look for a better life elsewhere.
GREAT (sarcastic roll of eyes) my son is signing up with the Marines, I wonder if everyone new will be suspect now.
Marines of Conscience or Homosexual Marines
(snip)...Service in the U. S. Marine Corps requires the loss of many liberties that civilians enjoy; especially, the right of association. Individual Marines cannot choose their leaders or with whom they will work and live. It is beyond governmental authority to force these Americans into situations that compromise their morals. The Selective Training & Service Act of 1940 permits the granting of Conscientious Objector status to One who by reason of religious training and belief is conscientiously opposed to participation in war. Little known is: People v. Stewart, 7 Cal. 143, Conscientious Scruple. A conscientious scruple against . . . doing military duty, or the like is an objection or repugnance growing out of the fact that the person believes the thing demanded of him is morally wrong, his conscience being the sole guide to his decision . . . (Blacks Law Dictionary). This Conscientious Scruple provision appears to give Marines of conscience a legal remedy for a morally compromising situation of serving under or with Marine homosexuals. Moreover, since there are evidently more persons of conscience in our society than homosexuals, the pool of potential recruits for the current all-volunteer Marine Corps will be reduced.
A question which now begs answering is: How would replacing Marines of conscience with homosexual Marines enhance a Marine units combat efficiency? Rather than enhancing combat efficiency, the opposite would be the result. In large part, the degree of a Marine units combat efficiency parallels its degree of unit cohesion. As the term implies, unit cohesion is a function of the emotional closeness of the units members who are drawn together by both social and military common grounds. There are at least three areas by which homosexual Marines would be drawbacks to such cohesion:
1) The social barracks talk of Marines is dominated by the object of their sexuality as is their after work pursuitsheterosexuality and homosexuality are, by their natures, mutually exclusive and therefore would create non-cohesive groups;
2) Marines of consciences and other heterosexual Marines who fail to include homosexual Marines in those activities would be practicing, by definition, sexual discrimination and, potentially, would be susceptible to prosecution under military law. That potential susceptibility would sow apprehension throughout the unit;
3) The 2010 Defense Budget was signed into law containing an attachment adding homosexuals to the Federal Hate Crimes Law. As a result, any Marine who expresses revulsion over homosexual acts will be susceptible to prosecution by Court Martial. Also, the federal statute allows for training and prevention programs. This last provision will probably result in forced indoctrination classes in Marine units that would challenge the religious convictions of Marines of conscience and their Constitutional right of Freedom of Religion prompting virulent reactions from Marines of conscience and palpable tension in Marine units.
In creating tension and apprehension between Marines, unit cohesion is degraded and, by extension, so is unit combat efficiency: the relationship between the facility in combat mission accomplishment and cost in friendly casualties...
Just what thier planning on doing. Remove the 20 percenters who are trying real hard to control the 80
Thank him for his service for me. And “suspect” isn’t the problem. It’s the ones for whom there isn’t any doubt who will be the problem.
Unfortunately; probably YES. The call of "duty" is being replaced to the call of "BOOTY".
Gomer Pyle was gay.
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Is this a blog? Can we have the whole thing posted? It would be excellent if it could be posted in its entirety if there is not copyright infringement. If there is, well, we should all go there and read it. Gaffney is a good man and people all over FR lately are saying that having faggots in the military won't change a thing. Makes me blind with rage to read that.
Sorry Marines, you’ve been sold out by 6 RINO’s and a bunch of communists in congress not to mention the American press and Pretender in Chief. When you look at Obama and the democrats that got elected in the past 4-6 years, I guess the foolish American voters sold you out too.
I am genuinely so sorry.
That’s an excellent piece. He makes great points.
the actor turned out to be a flamer.
the character was never a homosexual.
He engaged in homosexual sex? How is this trivial and irrelevant fact pertinent to establishing moral order and discipline on a military environment?
Supposedly, according to homosexual sex loving leftist researchers there are 'homosexual' penguins -does this imply that penguins that engage in homosexual sex are suitable for military service?
Did everyone contact their Representatives and say vote NO on repealing DADT????
I hope Gates, Mullens, Obama, and the rest are ready to be issued rifles and ammo, and go fill the breach.
I was a sailor - women on ships would have sent me packing; open gays on ships would have done it even quicker. Numbskulls.
“They can turn in their equipment, leave the base, and look for a better life elsewhere.”
It would take something like that, en masse, to get the attention of the “tolerant” liberals in Congress. Rights under the Constitution are one thing and a good thing at that, REALITY is quite another. Yes, I am prejudiced against FLAMING outrageous behavior (especially where it is totally out of place), and the reality of unintended consequences as a result of this attempt at “equality” will surely have distracting unintended consequences.
Thank him for his service for me. And suspect isnt the problem. Its the ones for whom there isnt any doubt who will be the problem.
Someday when I can, like when he comes home!
What is it with you 18-year-old Brits and gay penguins? You are such a tool. What do you call it when a fisherman lets his baited line drift behind a moving boat?
Good question, for maybe a homosexual blog...
IBTZ here, too.
Here is a link to the Youtube video:
Gomer Pyle was NOT gay. Please do not insult my Marine Corps by saying that he was.
Do not confuse the fictional Marine Corps Private Gomer Pyle with the actor who played him, Jim neighbors - who is believed to be gay...
He sure could sing, though...
we need a mail alert where a bill like don’t ask is going to be posted on and then that alert is sent out to all members on here who want it . ‘On the alert are numbers where we call on mass to put pressure on those republicans looking to vote with the left and queers.
Right now most calls these reps get are from the queer groups who are organised and do their calls on mass where as we might get a handful of people on here calling their local rep who will already vote with us anyway
We have to get organised and do more calls including putting pressure on the likes of Hannity etc who are nothing but cowards for never mentioning the queer agenda.
If he and others showed the public videos of like folsom fair then many will wake the hell up instead of sitting there saying “I have a friend who is queer and they are nice”
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