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Message from a Marine: Donít Break the Military
Big Peace ^ | Dec 17th 2010 | Frank Gaffney

Posted on 12/17/2010 2:01:14 PM PST by kingattax

The United States Senate is poised to take one of the most fateful votes in its history. It is expected – perhaps as early as tomorrow – to decide whether to impose the radical homosexual agenda on America’s armed forces.

Unless 41 Senators object to taking such a momentous step during a lame-duck session, without serious debate and in the absence of powerful evidence of its inadvisability, Congress will surely destroy the all-volunteer military.

That view has been expressed as eloquently and as forcefully by the 30th Commandant of the Marine Corps, General Carl Mundy USMC (Ret.) as by any of his comrades still in uniform or others knowledgeable about what is at stake.

He wrote a letter to members of the Senate that is the single most impressive piece of official correspondence I have read in 35 years of involvement in national security policy-making.

(Excerpt) Read more at bigpeace.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: colonjustice; commies; homosexualagenda; orificediverity

1 posted on 12/17/2010 2:01:16 PM PST by kingattax
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To: kingattax

That’s what Obama and his lefties want. This isn’t about equal rights. It all about neutering the US military. Wake up America, the Democrat Party hates you!


2 posted on 12/17/2010 2:04:21 PM PST by mort56
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To: kingattax

Very bad news for the military and the future of our country if this passes.


3 posted on 12/17/2010 2:04:30 PM PST by onedoug
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The goal of these senators is to completely destroy the United States by weakening the military.


4 posted on 12/17/2010 2:06:16 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: kingattax

Message from patriots to Marine... please get off your butt and secure 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It has been occupied by a foreign force and it is your duty to uphold your Constitutional oath and defend us...


5 posted on 12/17/2010 2:10:01 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the Constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: kingattax

I can see the buses pulling into Marine Corps Recruit Depot, Parris Island. Instead of a DI running on the bus waving a 45 screaming his ass off to get you off the bus in the old days we will have a DI with a pink scarf boarding the bus and saying, Will you silly boys please follow me off the bus.


6 posted on 12/17/2010 2:10:50 PM PST by hflynn
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To: kingattax; Saoirise; Markos33; mojitojoe; MestaMachine; little jeremiah; jazusamo; freema
The Marine’s are leading here. The contempt for our troops from the left on this and Mullen and Gaytes promotion of the perverted policy tells you where their loyalty lies. And it isn't to the United States military, that's for sure.

“THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635458/posts

“MILITARY: Marines lead opposition to repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635350/posts

“Army, Marine chiefs cast doubt on gay service”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2636917/posts

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“Don’t Repeal “Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell”

“~Don’t sacrifice unit cohesion for a social experiment.~”

“..Both issues—women in combat and gays in the military—are different manifestations of a single problem: the failure of America’s political leadership to understand the factors that motivate men to fight in battle and to continue fighting under the most horrific conditions—what professionals call “combat effectiveness” and “unit cohesion” respectively. In all the discussions of the issue, these terms seldom come up; when they do, it is only to be dismissed out of hand by those who wish to see all military positions opened to both women and homosexuals.

Those who have never served in combat have no idea what it is like...”

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/dont-repeal-dont-askdont-tell

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“Mullen: Troops Who Balk at Change in Gay Service Policy Can Find Other Work”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2636350/posts

Mullen says it's off to re-education for our troops or the only other option is get the H out. Zero leadership.

How we need Gen. Peter Pace.

7 posted on 12/17/2010 2:13:08 PM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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8 posted on 12/17/2010 2:15:02 PM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: April Lexington
"Message from patriots to Marine... please get off your butt and secure 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It has been occupied by a foreign force and it is your duty to uphold your Constitutional oath and defend us..."

Amen, to that.

WELL SAID!

9 posted on 12/17/2010 2:15:55 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: kingattax

As far as I am concerned, if the Homo Hoedown bill passes, all volunteer and career military are IMMEDIATELY released from their obligation to serve. They can turn in their equipment, leave the base, and look for a better life elsewhere.


10 posted on 12/17/2010 2:17:18 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: traditional1; All

GREAT (sarcastic roll of eyes) my son is signing up with the Marines, I wonder if everyone new will be suspect now.


11 posted on 12/17/2010 2:19:48 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: 2harddrive
Agreed. They take an oath to God, Duty and Country. Nowhere in there is a mention to put up with sharing their bunk with a homosexual. It is a clear violation of conscience.

“Marines of Conscience or Homosexual Marines”

http://www.thebutter-cutter.com/Marines_of_Conscience_or_Ho.php

(snip)”...Service in the U. S. Marine Corps requires the loss of many liberties that civilians enjoy; especially, the right of association. Individual Marines cannot choose their leaders or with whom they will work and live. It is beyond governmental authority to force these Americans into situations that compromise their morals. The Selective Training & Service Act of 1940 permits the granting of Conscientious Objector status to “One who by reason of religious training and belief is conscientiously opposed to participation in war.” Little known is: People v. Stewart, 7 Cal. 143, “Conscientious Scruple. A conscientious scruple against . . . doing military duty, or the like is an objection or repugnance growing out of the fact that the person believes the thing demanded of him is morally wrong, his conscience being the sole guide to his decision . . . ” (Black’s Law Dictionary). This “Conscientious Scruple” provision appears to give Marines of conscience a legal remedy for a morally compromising situation of serving under or with Marine homosexuals. Moreover, since there are evidently more persons of conscience in our society than homosexuals, the pool of potential recruits for the current all-volunteer Marine Corps will be reduced.

A question which now begs answering is: “How would replacing Marines of conscience with homosexual Marines enhance a Marine unit’s combat efficiency?” Rather than enhancing combat efficiency, the opposite would be the result. In large part, the degree of a Marine unit’s combat efficiency parallels its degree of unit cohesion. As the term implies, unit cohesion is a function of the emotional closeness of the unit’s members who are drawn together by both social and military common grounds. There are at least three areas by which homosexual Marines would be drawbacks to such cohesion:

1) The social “barracks talk” of Marines is dominated by the object of their sexuality as is their after work pursuits—heterosexuality and homosexuality are, by their natures, mutually exclusive and therefore would create non-cohesive groups;

2) Marines of consciences and other heterosexual Marines who fail to include homosexual Marines in those activities would be practicing, by definition, sexual discrimination and, potentially, would be susceptible to prosecution under military law. That potential susceptibility would sow apprehension throughout the unit;

3) The 2010 Defense Budget was signed into law containing an attachment adding homosexuals to the Federal Hate Crimes Law. As a result, any Marine who expresses revulsion over homosexual acts will be susceptible to prosecution by Court Martial. Also, the federal statute allows for training and prevention programs. This last provision will probably result in forced indoctrination classes in Marine units that would challenge the religious convictions of Marines of conscience and their Constitutional right of Freedom of Religion prompting virulent reactions from Marines of conscience and palpable tension in Marine units.

In creating tension and apprehension between Marines, unit cohesion is degraded and, by extension, so is unit combat efficiency: the relationship between the facility in combat mission accomplishment and cost in friendly casualties...”

12 posted on 12/17/2010 2:21:35 PM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: kingattax

Just what thier planning on doing. Remove the 20 percenters who are trying real hard to control the 80


13 posted on 12/17/2010 2:22:19 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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To: Ezekiel

Ping


14 posted on 12/17/2010 2:24:05 PM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: Jen Shroder

Thank him for his service for me. And “suspect” isn’t the problem. It’s the ones for whom there isn’t any doubt who will be the problem.


15 posted on 12/17/2010 2:26:08 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Jen Shroder
"GREAT (sarcastic roll of eyes) my son is signing up with the Marines, I wonder if everyone new will be suspect now."

Unfortunately; probably YES. The call of "duty" is being replaced to the call of "BOOTY".

16 posted on 12/17/2010 2:29:36 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: kingattax

Gomer Pyle was gay.


17 posted on 12/17/2010 2:32:28 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: kingattax; 185JHP; AFA-Michigan; Abathar; Agitate; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; Antoninus; ...
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Is this a blog? Can we have the whole thing posted? It would be excellent if it could be posted in its entirety if there is not copyright infringement. If there is, well, we should all go there and read it. Gaffney is a good man and people all over FR lately are saying that having faggots in the military won't change a thing. Makes me blind with rage to read that.

18 posted on 12/17/2010 2:35:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: kingattax

Sorry Marines, you’ve been sold out by 6 RINO’s and a bunch of communists in congress not to mention the American press and Pretender in Chief. When you look at Obama and the democrats that got elected in the past 4-6 years, I guess the foolish American voters sold you out too.

I am genuinely so sorry.


19 posted on 12/17/2010 2:41:29 PM PST by prairiebreeze (Proudly celebrating CHRISTMAS!)
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To: kingattax

That’s an excellent piece. He makes great points.


20 posted on 12/17/2010 2:53:15 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: forgotten man

the actor turned out to be a flamer.

the character was never a homosexual.


21 posted on 12/17/2010 2:58:03 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: forgotten man
Gomer Pyle was gay.

He engaged in homosexual sex? How is this trivial and irrelevant fact pertinent to establishing moral order and discipline on a military environment?

Supposedly, according to homosexual sex loving leftist researchers there are 'homosexual' penguins -does this imply that penguins that engage in homosexual sex are suitable for military service?

22 posted on 12/17/2010 3:04:17 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: kingattax

Did everyone contact their Representatives and say vote NO on repealing DADT????


23 posted on 12/17/2010 3:07:01 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: 444Flyer

I hope Gates, Mullens, Obama, and the rest are ready to be issued rifles and ammo, and go fill the breach.

I was a sailor - women on ships would have sent me packing; open gays on ships would have done it even quicker. Numbskulls.


24 posted on 12/17/2010 3:53:01 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: 2harddrive

“They can turn in their equipment, leave the base, and look for a better life elsewhere.”

It would take something like that, en masse, to get the attention of the “tolerant” liberals in Congress. Rights under the Constitution are one thing and a good thing at that, REALITY is quite another. Yes, I am prejudiced against FLAMING outrageous behavior (especially where it is totally out of place), and the reality of unintended consequences as a result of this attempt at “equality” will surely have distracting unintended consequences.


25 posted on 12/17/2010 4:16:25 PM PST by Twinkie (Doing nothing is the most tiring job there is; you can't quit and rest . .)
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To: traditional1
It's hard enough letting him go at ALL!!!! (not that I could stop him)
26 posted on 12/17/2010 4:37:07 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: Billthedrill

Thank him for his service for me. And “suspect” isn’t the problem. It’s the ones for whom there isn’t any doubt who will be the problem.
______________

Someday when I can, like when he comes home!

But thanks.


27 posted on 12/17/2010 4:39:46 PM PST by Jen Shroder
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To: Jen Shroder
Best of luck to him!

Godspeed.

28 posted on 12/17/2010 7:03:08 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: DBeers
Supposedly, according to homosexual sex loving leftist researchers there are 'homosexual' penguins -does this imply that penguins that engage in homosexual sex are suitable for military service?

Are heterosexual penguins more suitable than homosexual penguins?
29 posted on 12/17/2010 7:18:36 PM PST by B_Simons
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To: B_Simons
Are heterosexual penguins more suitable than homosexual penguins?

Vastly, yes.

What is it with you 18-year-old Brits and gay penguins? You are such a tool. What do you call it when a fisherman lets his baited line drift behind a moving boat?

Bingo.

;-|

30 posted on 12/17/2010 8:09:32 PM PST by Gargantua (Palin ~ Bachmann 2012... cuz "Pa-Bach's a bitch!" (if you're a Liberal or a PDS snart))
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To: B_Simons; 50mm
Are heterosexual penguins more suitable than homosexual penguins?

Good question, for maybe a homosexual blog...

IBTZ here, too.

31 posted on 12/17/2010 8:38:44 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: B_Simons
I would have to be useful idiot to first accept the premise that there are homosexual penguins hatched that way to even answer such a question...

Try DU.

32 posted on 12/17/2010 9:55:48 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: kingattax; little jeremiah
Is this a blog? Can we have the whole thing posted? It would be excellent if it could be posted in its entirety if there is not copyright infringement. If there is, well, we should all go there and read it...

Here is a link to the Youtube video:

Gen. Carl Mundy: Don't Ask, Don't Tell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDRL1oMW2d8

33 posted on 12/17/2010 10:10:56 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one.)
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To: forgotten man
Gomer Pyle was gay.

Gomer Pyle was NOT gay. Please do not insult my Marine Corps by saying that he was.

Do not confuse the fictional Marine Corps Private Gomer Pyle with the actor who played him, Jim neighbors - who is believed to be gay...



http://www.jimnabors.com/

He sure could sing, though...

JIM NABORS ( GOMER PYLE )-THE IMPOSSIBLE DREAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5KeGccP9Jk

34 posted on 12/17/2010 11:16:19 PM PST by Screaming_Gerbil (Life is God's gift to you. The way you live your life is your gift to God. Make it a fantastic one.)
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To: little jeremiah

we need a mail alert where a bill like don’t ask is going to be posted on and then that alert is sent out to all members on here who want it . ‘On the alert are numbers where we call on mass to put pressure on those republicans looking to vote with the left and queers.

Right now most calls these reps get are from the queer groups who are organised and do their calls on mass where as we might get a handful of people on here calling their local rep who will already vote with us anyway

We have to get organised and do more calls including putting pressure on the likes of Hannity etc who are nothing but cowards for never mentioning the queer agenda.

If he and others showed the public videos of like folsom fair then many will wake the hell up instead of sitting there saying “I have a friend who is queer and they are nice”


35 posted on 12/18/2010 8:33:15 AM PST by manc (FOX and the media never talk about the queer private who stole all the secrets do they? mmmmmm)
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