Posted on 12/18/2010 10:33:06 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
With the passage of the law to repeal the Clinton-era legislation commonly referred to as "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," President Obama enters into a new reality. In one last blaze of defiance of the American people, and expressly those who serve in our nation's armed forces, President Obama was able to shove social engineering into pretty much the very corner of American culture where we have no business doing so.
Upon his signature President Obama will begin a process that will at the very least disrupt operations, and at the very worst see the eventual weakening of our armed forces.
Throughout the entirety of this debate I've had questions, none of which seemed to be answered or even asked in the congressional sessions dealing with the matter.
From a purely pragmatic standpoint perhaps someone could answer them now, since I'm especially sure that President Obama wouldn't push for such a fundamental transformation of our military without good answers to them.
1. What happens to housing, on base and in theater?
If it is morally questionable to have men and women housed together because of the sexual tension that exists between primarily men who would be predatorily interested in the women they might shower with or frequently be seen in the act of dressing and undressing on a regular basis, why is it any different if you have identified the predatory homosexual male who might have an unrequited "thing" for a fellow service member? If it is proper to keep men and women housed separately do we now go to four sets of housing. Men who don't engage in homosexual activity, Men who do, Women who don't, Women who do? Practically speaking Mr. President how do you get past the fundamental sexual tension that will be present the minute some make it known?
2. Do you expect the military system or the civilian courts to deal with the influx of phony sexual harassment cases to follow?
Consider this issue a prediction of sorts, but take it to the bank that those who engage in open homosexuality will feel the freedom if not the need begin to portray themselves as victims of harassment pretty much anytime something doesn't go their way. And it may not require anything all that severe to trigger it. A drill instructor gets a little too rough in his language while trying to beat the "sissy" out of a recruit in basic training or Officer Candidate School and the backlog will commence.
3. Will base commanders be required to host "pride" events that allow for similar conduct to the x-rated displays that go on in the nation's cities each year?
There was much discussion in the Senate and House hearings about the issue of morale, the breakdown of structure, the significance of discipline and the ability to command respect and a readied force. Nothing related to any "pride" event ever held comes close to anything resembling respect, discipline, or structure. There is a reason our best volunteer to serve their nation, and it has nothing to do with speedos, bump or grind.
4. Will all other sexual conduct be made legal as well?
It is still a crime to commit adultery in active military duty, and even more so for officers. How can you possibly be allowing for the flamboyancy of effeminate male soldiers to engage in sexual conduct and their notorious ever wandering lust for the new on one hand, and hold court martial for those who have discreetly hidden their sexual escapades while destroying their families?
There are many legitimate reasons why the military is not the place to run experiments on the restructuring of the society at large.
For the leftist idiots who will scream the meme that, "every other nation on the planet already does it," shut up!
None of those military forces are the United States Army, Navy, Air Force, or Marines.
I know the progressive elites in the nation awake this morning feeling better about what has been done to the U.S. Military in this vote. I know this President has never served and likely barely knows anyone who has. I know that the godless in our nation think this is all a tremendous step forward.
In the hundreds of conversations I've had with those that serve in our nation's armed forces, from Naval F-18 aviators to Army Rangers, Marine specialists to Air Force pilots of B2 stealth bombers, C130s, and military drones, the view of the military is clear. They serve to focus on the mission at hand, not because they may or may not display pictures of their romantic interests in the living quarters.
I know that our military has been the best in the world, and that they deserved to be listened to when they spoke clearly from the four branches to the President. The head of each branch clearly made the case for not allowing the military to become a place where the focus of our troops was placed on when and how they can have sex, instead of achieving their mission.
But now that reality has been thrust upon us. It is a focus of magnificent distraction, and in terms of operational priorities it is of miniscule importance.
It was President Obama's doing, and the results that follow will be laid at his feet.
Bingo. In the Army it was folks who had just received their language training and preferred to work for Exxon then the military. It would be interesting to track these people and see how many are married with children now.
I do not do leftist -can you explain the terminology? Do you mean a man with a 10 cm dilated sphincter?
I am sure that ALL do not like this policy premised handout by the leftists in power. It would be interesting if the numbers/dollars given out could be quantified and some news/media organizations would did and expose for all to see this corruption and theft...
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He is out the somewhere
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Lol, you’ve probably run into him!
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It was really funny to see that Larry Sinclair chose one of my sensitive graphics to use at top of his website!
I am sure 0pansy and Meechelle appreciated that mucho.....
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[It was really funny to see that Larry Sinclair chose one of my sensitive graphics to use at top of his website!]
Ummmmmmmmm........describe it devolve.......leaving something out??
My communication skills are not always good.
Sorry I even tried.
I will leave it to others.
And FWIW I don't even think woman should be serving in the Military in positions traditionally held by men in combat.
Esp. Moms. But that is JMO.
There are plenty of jobs woman have traditionally done in the military.
And another point is as a Catholic I wish there was as much intolerance for slander and bashing Freepers that share my Faith here as for this subject matter.
I should hold my fingers back from the keyboard and just stick to the threads I come here to enjoy.
The bickering and accusations twisting posts around is not doing zip for those who claim to be all for the grassroots movement to keep this country Constitutionally rooted.
ANd I probably miscommunitcated that. But I will not argue those who misconceive my posts.
My communication skills are not always good.
My communication skills are as well not perfect ans it would appear in this case, by your response, the message I conveyed was heavy handed. I apologize for that.
What I was attempting to convey was that you were using the words the left have promoted and used to in essence pervert truth by dressing up evil with nice clothing e.g. wolves in sheeps clothing.
Using "their" terminology tends to reinforce the lies and distance one from the truth. e.g. choice sounds so much nicer than abortion and "gay" sounds so much nicer that person who is inclined to and or chooses to engage in homosexual sex.
Recently we see the repeal of the military "gay ban" which really was just legalizing homosexual sex in the military...
Anyway -my posting to you was an effort to get you to stop and think for a second about just what you were stating. That is all it was -it was not a personal attack upon you. Think of these terms as you might consider swearing or vulgarity -if you use certain words they become habitual and eventually you use them without thinking just what they mean and as well become desensitized to their effects. To break the habit you must stop and decide to consciously not use the offending words -in essence develop a new habit...
If I got you to stop and think THEN I was successful -if I offended you then I failed and apologize for that.
Lol, cute, but not the Sinclair tin sign with the limo gif on top. You probably bought that one!
Prepare also for a new look in parades. “Stars and Stripes Forever” and “Semper Fidelis” will replaced by “YMCA” and “Tooti-Fruitie” as the troops prance merrily along.
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LOL!
I like to make people search and find things for themselves
If and when they do - It is undeniable
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Larry’s original page isn’t out there anymore. I wish I’d saved a screen capture of it. Maybe I did, will have to look.
The average person doesn’t go looking I think. I use Google many times a day.
Well glad we cleared that up.
I did use MSM language and I should have said “sodomite”.
I have a horrible habit of using the F word but every Lent I work on my cursing and it is getting better.
So much so that I offend myself when I do curse.
I do understand that others here don’t have an issue saying faggot and that is their right just as much as it is mine to say F em feed em Chuckles around the house.
My adult son heard so much of my sailor mouth growing up that he never cusses except in two instances where he called a couple of woman he felt had evil intentions “evil bitch”
Normally he says “witch”.
It’s a personal family thing the crude language breaking the habit.
I also think about the adversaries to FR who read crude remarks and go viral on the net to make this site appear to be something it is not.
Sigh So much has changed since 1998.
It truly sucks this situation we are in now as a country -hopefully all will keep a cool head. I truly believe it is not a matter of IS but rather a matter of when can we turn this leftist assault back.
faith, patience & perseverance is what we need...
Amen.
Perservere!
Westboro Baptist’s protests have an ulterior motive if they are indeed a leftist front group.
Maybe they are designed to pave the way for a “gay” military by uniting vets and soldiers with gay activists-liberals who show up to protest Westboro.
Otherwise, Westboro is just a bunch of insane wackos.
It was humorous. Shocking, but humorous:) No aplolgy necessary
Maybe the Heritate Foundation or WorldNetDaily will fill a Freedom of Information Request to get the Fiscal Data on what this is costing the Department of State, and to determine if it is an unfunded obligation.... And then maybe someone will be fined or forced to repay the government for this run-a-muck policy.
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