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Reid Files for Cloture on START (Corker of Tennessee (R) working w/ Hussein Cult in Senate)
NRO ^ | 12/20/10 | Robert Costa

Posted on 12/20/2010 12:56:00 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat

On Sunday night, after a weekend of wrangling, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) filed for cloture on the New START treaty, setting up a crucial Tuesday vote on whether to end debate. A final vote could come on Thursday. As Josh Rogin observes, keep an eye on Sen. Bob Corker (R., Tenn.) as the clock ticks...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 0bamacare; 0pansyqueer; 0ponzinomics; bobcorker; corker; punkd; putin; russians; start
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Terrible tax bill, DADT, and now possibly START...the GOP, just days from having SOOO much greater power, is folding like a cheap suit.
1 posted on 12/20/2010 12:56:07 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

...and, just like a year ago with Hussein’s DEATH PANELS bill, notice how Reid is doing this: at Christmastime, in the middle of the night, when the public is distracted.

Demon-rats: they’ll eat your face off while you sleep.


2 posted on 12/20/2010 12:57:36 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Just sent Corker a message via twitter:
@SenBobCorker > What's the rush on START? Go home. Look at it in 2011.

Any other FReepers using twitter do the same.

3 posted on 12/20/2010 1:07:29 AM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: Recovering_Democrat

My fingers are worn to nubs from all the emails and phone calls to Corker. He has really turned out to be a disgrace to TN.


4 posted on 12/20/2010 1:38:18 AM PST by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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To: DWar

How do you not go off into a panic induced rant. lol

no START. not now. not ever.


5 posted on 12/20/2010 1:43:55 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

These people are lower than whale excrement.


6 posted on 12/20/2010 2:17:20 AM PST by kingpins10
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Discipline.

I am one of the 300 at Thermopylae.
I know I'll die. Perhaps, Greece may live.

7 posted on 12/20/2010 2:25:04 AM PST by DWar ("The ultimate destination of Political Correctness is totalitarianism.")
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To: Recovering_Democrat

It’s like a race to shove as much down our throats as they can. Lame duck, my azzz.....Can ANY of the damage possibly be un-done?


8 posted on 12/20/2010 2:40:08 AM PST by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote! ~ DeMint, 2012)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

They passed the “food safety bill” last night, too.


9 posted on 12/20/2010 3:09:17 AM PST by livius
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Not news to us in TN...

I never voted for RINO Bob...


10 posted on 12/20/2010 3:31:04 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I pray McConnell and his voiced opposition to START is signal
to enough others in the Senate. Whatever the result—even if it does get pushed back — I am not convinced that the braying Jacks and Jennies —the Socialists— and the Rino who help them have changed.And the Republicans will do as they have as well— and rely on the fact that their excuse is we the people have not elected enough Republicans.Why I wish we had heeded the advice of wiser men who said a Party system would destroy American government.


11 posted on 12/20/2010 3:33:05 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
Corker Comments on Working to Secure Strong Missile Defense Commitments Related to START Treaty

WASHINGTON – U.S. Senator Bob Corker, R-Tenn., member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, made the following statement today regarding commitments to missile defense and the New START treaty (New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty) with Russia. Attached is the letter President Obama sent to Republican Senators today stating his commitment to missile defense.
“I appreciate the letter we received today from the President, as requested, stating his commitment to missile defense,” said U.S. Senator Bob Corker. “Even though the McCain amendment failed, over the next several days we will be looking for ways to reiterate our strong position on missile defense as it relates to this treaty.”

Corker has to be the dumbest Senator ever. The Missile Defense clause is in the treaty and unless it's amended it will always be a part of the treaty regardless whether Obama writes a letter or not.

12 posted on 12/20/2010 3:57:53 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Recovering_Democrat

This has been a done deal since the tax cut extension compromise along with DADT and the Dream Act.


13 posted on 12/20/2010 4:18:53 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

It takes 67 votes to ratify a treaty.


14 posted on 12/20/2010 4:26:41 AM PST by magellan
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To: StonyBurk

But the dems always have the three sisters, Collins, Snowe, and Brown.


15 posted on 12/20/2010 4:28:38 AM PST by Carley (PREPARE FOR THE REINSTATING OF THE MILITARY DRAFT)
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To: Tennessee Nana

And his opponent was a real conservative...a good man!


16 posted on 12/20/2010 4:37:35 AM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: DWar

Yes - till my fingers bleed!


17 posted on 12/20/2010 4:48:46 AM PST by VRWCTexan (Those who forget history, are doomed to repeat it !)
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To: radu

Many FReepers warned us of this turncoat bastard... but it was him or someone like charlie rangel or pelosi. We need a TEA PARTY primary candidate to retire this _______! (you fill in the blank)

LLS


18 posted on 12/20/2010 4:54:46 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

National Security used to be taken seriously, now Just another frivolous compromise with poor Democrat legislation...


19 posted on 12/20/2010 4:55:04 AM PST by Son House (The TEA Party is Going to Be Like a GI Party...Clean House!)
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To: Carley
But the dems always have the three sisters, Collins, Snowe, and Brown.

don't forget little sis.

Meanwhile, at the Cotillion

as God is my witness, I'll never vote conservative again!!

20 posted on 12/20/2010 5:17:39 AM PST by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Let’s do away with elections. Marxist democrats get everything they way after they get beat in elections, seems odd but true.


21 posted on 12/20/2010 5:33:01 AM PST by Bulldawg Fan (Victory is the last thing leftists and their fellow Defeatists want.)
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To: DWar

A better message would be: “Hey, Builder Bob, don’t forget you are up for re-election in two years! We sure won’t!”


22 posted on 12/20/2010 5:42:46 AM PST by Thermalseeker (If I print money it's counterfeiting. If the Fed prints money it's quantitative easing?)
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To: Thermalseeker

.....Hey, Builder Bob, don’t forget you are up for re-election in two years! We sure won’t.....

He has no fear. Tennessee will not elect a conservative. The power and money lies in the hands of the moderates. We just elected a new governor who is from the Alexander/Corker/Brach mold.


23 posted on 12/20/2010 5:46:32 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: All

Big ol’ “I told you so” moment for anyone who thought that November’s election results were a reset button for the whole batch of bullshit being shoved down America’s collective throat. They have only days left and think no one is paying attention; they will redouble their efforts trying to cripple us for their masters.


24 posted on 12/20/2010 5:50:19 AM PST by ronnyquest (Barack H. Obama is the Manchurian Candidate. What are you going to do about it?)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

National Security Brief:

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/p18600.xml

info/video

Call now, VOTE NO


25 posted on 12/20/2010 5:59:01 AM PST by Java4Jay
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To: Recovering_Democrat
There's a HUGH difference from a Cloture Vote and a senate vote on passage of a Treaty. The commieRATS 'only' need 60 votes for cloture but they need 67 Votes to pass the Treaty, and I don't see 67 votes there.

In any case this treaty should NOT be voted on now. I downloaded all of its parts and this thing needs to be reviewed carefully. It's in Five Parts and has a total of 356 pages(1) and is NOT something that a Lame Duck senate, with time running out, should even be looking at.

The Treaty itself is only 17 pages, but the Protocols are 165 pages.
And after that there's Three Parts of 'annexes' for 174 pages.

26 posted on 12/20/2010 5:59:43 AM PST by Condor51 (SAT CONG!)
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To: bert
Tennessee will not elect a conservative.

Can't speak for your area, but we just got through tossing a "blue dog" (Lincoln Davis) and elected a Conservative, Dr. Scott Desjarlais here in the 4th District. Tennessee also sent Fred Thompson to the Senate a couple of times. It's possible. I think Corker is going to get challenged. He's pissing a lot of people off, especially the people who vote.

28 posted on 12/20/2010 6:19:27 AM PST by Thermalseeker (If I print money it's counterfeiting. If the Fed prints money it's quantitative easing?)
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To: Condor51

There are easily 67 votes:

58 Democrats plus the following RINOs:

Lugar
Snowe
Collins
Brown
Kirk
Corkum
Voinovich
Murkowski
McCain
Kyl
Graham
Lamar Alexander

The Dems only need 9 of these 12 clowns to pass this sell-out to madman Putin.


29 posted on 12/20/2010 6:32:29 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: Thermalseeker

——I think Corker is going to get challenged-——

I don’t doubt that. In North East Tennessee US Rep David Davis a conservative was defeated by the conservative but more moderate Phil Roe after one term and doing a good job.

Realistically, I don’t see a challenger winning. I say that after working hard for Ed Bryant a good solid conservative who just couldn’t get the support needed to win.


30 posted on 12/20/2010 6:37:37 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Don’t tell me - the response of “we the people” will be to send more e-mails?


31 posted on 12/20/2010 6:47:08 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Condor51

Reid will not bring up a vote if he doesn’t have the 67 votes.


32 posted on 12/20/2010 7:09:25 AM PST by AU72
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To: tobyhill
The Missile Defense clause is in the treaty and unless it's amended it will always be a part of the treaty regardless whether Obama writes a letter or not.

He could be trying to attach a reservation, which is a legal exception to the treaty as a whole that would allow its ratification absent that element.

It's shaky and I don't know if this is what he is doing, but a reservation is a substantive thing.

33 posted on 12/20/2010 7:32:49 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: magellan
It takes 67 votes to ratify a treaty.

That is MSM nonsense. From Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the US Constitution:

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;

Go read your Constitution, for once, and then read this. You'll learn what a screw job was hidden in it. RINOs have been a problem since before the ink was dry.

34 posted on 12/20/2010 7:37:52 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: Condor51
but they need 67 Votes to pass the Treaty, and I don't see 67 votes there.

I'll bet you a hundred bucks donated to FR that a treaty can be ratified legally with as few as 34 votes, being 2/3 of a quorum.

Or you can read post 34 and cure your appalling ignorance of the Constitution. It's two thirds of SENATORS PRESENT, not two thirds of the Senate. Fixing that mistake is one of the most important Constitutional amendments we could ever ratify and we should clarify the supremacy clause while we're at it.

As it turns out, treaties may have been ratified with fewer Senators than 2/3 of a quorum, as there are often fewer in the room while the Senate is still in session and I have records proving at least the possibility.

35 posted on 12/20/2010 7:46:18 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: livius

“Food Safety Bill” AKA Food Control.


36 posted on 12/20/2010 7:46:54 AM PST by Sal (No Labels: The desire not to be SOMETHING is the desire NOT TO BE! Ayn Rand)
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To: livius

“Food Safety Bill” AKA Food Control.


37 posted on 12/20/2010 7:47:06 AM PST by Sal (No Labels: The desire not to be SOMETHING is the desire NOT TO BE! Ayn Rand)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

This was the deal. This is how they got their tax cuts. The GOP is a bunch of morons and traitors. Wussies. Worthless.


38 posted on 12/20/2010 7:47:19 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Recovering_Democrat

There are many holes with this treaty which Republican senators should consider before voting. The Russians have been modernizing their nuclear weapons.They removing their older SS-18 missiles and replacing them with their more accurate SS-27 missiles.Every treaty we have signed with the Russians they have cheated.
During the SALT I and SALT II treaty era,four new types of submarine-launched ballistic missiles, five improved versions of existing SLBMs,and four types of intercontinental ballistic missiles(the SS-17,18,19, and 25)were introduced that were in direct violation of the treaties.SALT II was the foundation of the U.S. “second missile gap,” which arose in the early 1980s and was one of the main reasons for Ronald Reagan’s strategic armament buildup.


39 posted on 12/20/2010 7:58:13 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: anniegetyourgun
Don’t tell me - the response of “we the people” will be to send more e-mails?

I have been standing by with pitchfork in hand waiting for the signal to descend on the District of Corruption.
40 posted on 12/20/2010 8:08:54 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Republicans are dumb if they allow this... The treaty could be approved with some good changes that Republicans want instead of tying our hands with this tripe that weak Democrats created...

The American People rejected Obama’s agenda all of it in NOV what don’t they get?


41 posted on 12/20/2010 8:27:33 AM PST by Typical_Whitey ("It doesn't matter how smart you are, unless you stop and think".... Thomas Sowell)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I believe the commies now need EIGHT RINOS to pass START..one commie is having surgery so it is 66 needed. Try 58 commies and lugar/bennett/snowe/collins plus corker types and they are very close to 66.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/134483-democrats-cautiously-optimistic-on-start-passage


42 posted on 12/20/2010 9:12:49 AM PST by biggredd1
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Corker was freaking RINO from the beginning. For the past three statewide elections we have had two conservatives splitting the vote against one RINO and we have been stuck with the RINO every time.


43 posted on 12/20/2010 9:16:38 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: potlatch

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It is well past time to add a bit of Torpedo grass to the White House lawn

It grows mucho high - and roots go mucho deep for water

Let us see Meechelle and her Victory Mosque Garden ladies out there digging deep to remove the tough hardy Torpedo grass sod and topsoil - every few weeks!

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Any young men or women considering the new US military should have a chat with some combat Vets and discuss sane alternatives now

Let the OpansyQueer bunch walk point....

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44 posted on 12/20/2010 9:21:32 AM PST by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0ponzi Version 9.8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: biggredd1
I believe the commies now need EIGHT RINOS to pass START..one commie is having surgery so it is 66 needed.

I believe the magic number remains 67 -- it's 2/3 of the Senate, not 2/3 of those present and voting.

If they've lost a "Rat", they now need 10 'Pubbies. And I can't imagine that there are that many with a death wish.

45 posted on 12/20/2010 9:26:01 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Cloture is relatively meaningless here, as it only takes 60 votes to end debate, but it takes 67 votes to pass the treaty, assuming all the senators are in town.


46 posted on 12/20/2010 9:36:35 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Tennessee Nana
Not news to us in TN... I never voted for RINO Bob...

I didn't either & my last vote for Liberal Lamar Alexander-RINO was for governor. It was common knowledge in the primaries that Corker was a fence sitter {Dem Enabler}.

47 posted on 12/20/2010 9:43:42 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
it takes 67 votes to pass the treaty, assuming all the senators are in town

Does it take 2/3 of the complete Senate regardless of who is in the chamber, or JUST 2/3 OF THOSE PRESENT?
48 posted on 12/20/2010 10:12:39 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Tennessee Nana

So, you had rather have Jr. as our senator?


49 posted on 12/20/2010 10:52:53 AM PST by Coldwater Creek (He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High will rest in the shadow of the Almighty Psalm 91:)
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To: Cheerio

Two thirds of those present. “He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;”


50 posted on 12/20/2010 11:23:58 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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