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FCC Approves Plan to Regulate Internet
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/21/fcc-poised-pass-network-neutrality-rules/ ^

Posted on 12/21/2010 10:40:28 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

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To: Red in Blue PA

‘The Constitution Shredder’ is working over-time these days in Washington! Grrrrr!


101 posted on 12/21/2010 1:25:42 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: DesertRhino

OF course I don’t want the FCC regulating content. I’ve said that every chance possible. I also don’t want the telco’s to destroy the internet as well.

BOTH parties should not be peering into the contents to prioritize or block.

My problem is that YOU are painting this as a black and white issue when it clearly is not. The telco’s, who are wearing the white hats in your mind, are going to totally F over consumers if nothing is done. Take the worst of cable/FiOS/U-Verse/Satellite pricing/packaging and now apply that to the internet.


102 posted on 12/21/2010 1:27:22 PM PST by SengirV
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To: SengirV
The ISPs are going to filter the content of the internet, say bye-bye to netflix, youtube, streaming as you knew it.

Ain't happened yet. And if it does, someone will step up to provide the service, if there's a dime to be made.

Meanwhile, you suggest the citizenry cede power to a federal agency with a history of censorship, the FCC.

Bad, bad, move.

103 posted on 12/21/2010 1:29:17 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: RobRoy

Define airwaves. At some point, it is all airwaves.


104 posted on 12/21/2010 1:37:03 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: KTM rider

Unfortunately those 1000 fat soft Louis XVI wannabes are protected by ~1,000,000 LEOs. IMO the fertilizer is going the hit the fan fairly soon ... and it ain’t going to be pretty.


105 posted on 12/21/2010 1:38:56 PM PST by clamper1797 (Pray for Obama ... Psalms 109:8)
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To: SengirV

Absurd.

(1) If there are two providers or more, there is a free market. And nearly everyone has access to two or more providers, either DSL, cable and/or satellite. If my DSL provider restricted my access to anything, especially FR, I’d switch to cable in a second. And the alternate providers would (successfully) advertise that they do not restrict access.

(2) You are suggesting that we implement greater government controls OVER A PROBLEM THAT HASN’T HAPPENED YET. Once you let the government have ANY control over the internet, it will quickly become COMPLETE control.

(3) The USSC has determined that FCC control of net neutrality is unconstitutional. There are a whole bunch of unconstitutional things the Obama administration would like to control under the guise of “its cheaper if the government regulates it” (healthcare, energy, and now communication).


106 posted on 12/21/2010 1:40:57 PM PST by kidd
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To: SengirV
The problem from the ISP’s is that the physical infrastructure to upgrade and maintain the internet is very expensive. That, and in a down economy, the temptation to charge more for less is so great they almost can't resist.

That and why would a Verizon ISP let you shop for a Sprint ISP? They have a vested interest in controlling where you go.

107 posted on 12/21/2010 1:48:16 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SengirV

Not just the telcos. Newspapers and other MSM are loosing money fast. They want to stop the bleeding, and that means ending free content on the internet.


108 posted on 12/21/2010 1:51:58 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP

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Every member of Congress and every federal department or agency has:

1 - Telephones
2 - FAX machines
3 - Email accounts

If they get a lot of contacts all at once they feel very popular.....

In the spirit of the season it would be nice if those hard working people received a friendly message from an American voter

There are free FAX sending websites on the internet

Send some friendly messages to those underpaid people in Washington DC!

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109 posted on 12/21/2010 2:00:17 PM PST by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0ponzi Version 9.8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . .)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Indeed!

“The Vampire Economy”.

CA....


110 posted on 12/21/2010 2:07:37 PM PST by Chances Are (Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“The Obama Administration has no interest in stimulating the economy or in creating jobs. Their goal is to hurt American business and weaken the nation”

Their goals is take over every aspect of American life. Only then will their Socialist plan be completed.


111 posted on 12/21/2010 2:10:54 PM PST by reader25
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To: kidd
(1) If there are two providers or more, there is a free market. And nearly everyone has access to two or more providers, either DSL, cable and/or satellite. If my DSL provider restricted my access to anything, especially FR, I’d switch to cable in a second. And the alternate providers would (successfully) advertise that they do not restrict access.

And if both of your providers block FR? What do you do then? YOU ARE SCREWED, and there will be NOTHING you can do about it.

(2) You are suggesting that we implement greater government controls OVER A PROBLEM THAT HASN’T HAPPENED YET. Once you let the government have ANY control over the internet, it will quickly become COMPLETE control.

telcos are big enough and have been given monopolies over vast areas of the country. They know you have little to no recourse over their filtering policies. And what makes you think they haven't tried this yet - http://gigaom.com/2010/11/29/forget-net-neutrality-comcast-might-break-the-web/

(3) The USSC has determined that FCC control of net neutrality is unconstitutional. There are a whole bunch of unconstitutional things the Obama administration would like to control under the guise of “its cheaper if the government regulates it” (healthcare, energy, and now communication).

Great. So be it. The problems come when monopolies/oligopolies coordinate to limit choice and charge an artificially high price for service. That is coming to the internet. Kiss it all good bye. The telcos are going to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs by making the internet unusable by anyone other than those with very deep pockets. And for some reason, you couldnt' be happier. You are enjoying the benefits of net neutrality now, and you don't even know it.

112 posted on 12/21/2010 2:21:00 PM PST by SengirV
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To: Reagan Man

Whoever the Republican nominee is in 2012. They need to run on a platform of totally reformimg the FCC, IRS and Federal Reserve. Rip them into a thousand pices and throw them into the wind.


113 posted on 12/21/2010 2:31:56 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: Rashputin

yeah I remember the old BBS sites. Time to dust off teh old hardware...


114 posted on 12/21/2010 4:17:50 PM PST by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
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To: Theo
“Net neutrality” is best compared to the common carrier restrictions which telephone networks operate under. When you dial in a phone number (type in a web address), the telephone company (ISP) can't give your request a higher or lower priority than anybody else’s (911 being a possible exception).

If I'm an AT&T customer and I'm calling my mom's Verizon number, Verizon can't break up my signal or charge AT&T an extra fee or end the call to make room for more Verizon-to-Verizon calls. This is what makes the telephone network a reliable backbone service for nation-, even world-wide telecommunications.

Same thing with the internet. ISPs are still allowed to negotiate their own pricing to their customers. (i.e. If they want to offer different price levels for differing bandwidth usage, that is allowed — just like the phone company is allowed to offer deals and packages based on usage.) But once that fee is negotiated and paid, they can't tinker with the integrity of your signal based solely on the number you choose to dial.

115 posted on 12/21/2010 4:41:34 PM PST by Reese Hamm
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To: SengirV
The telco’s, who are wearing the white hats in your mind, are going to totally F over consumers if nothing is done.

Why don't you specifically describe the problem you are having and how this bill will fix it? Right now I have many choices in internet service providers and if I don't like a Cable carrier I can go with a Telco or vice-versa. Let the marketplace decide.

116 posted on 12/21/2010 5:11:07 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Skeez

No, three people came along and said “We control you now.”


117 posted on 12/21/2010 5:23:45 PM PST by madison10
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To: SengirV

I suggest that two can play at that game...there are liberal sites as well.


118 posted on 12/21/2010 5:26:06 PM PST by madison10
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To: Islander7
Unbelievable what this regime has done in a year.

119 posted on 12/21/2010 7:11:48 PM PST by xeno
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To: Theo
How is that a bad thing? Is there more to “net neutrality” than that?

It's the proverbial "camel's nose under the tent".

If the FCC is allowed to have the jurisdiction to do this, they can do much, much more. None of it good for America and the 1st Amendment.

120 posted on 12/21/2010 7:13:48 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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