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FCC Approves Plan to Regulate Internet
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/21/fcc-poised-pass-network-neutrality-rules/ ^

Posted on 12/21/2010 10:40:28 AM PST by Red in Blue PA

WASHINGTON -- The Federal Communications Commission on Tuesday approved a plan to regulate the Internet despite warnings that it could strangle industry investment and damage an economy that is still struggling to recover.

The 3-2 vote fell along partisan lines with Democrats capitalizing on their numerical advantage.

The rules would prohibit phone and cable companies from abusing their control over broadband connections to discriminate against rival content or services, such as Internet phone calls or online video, or play favorites with Web traffic.

Lawmakers in both parties have been arguing for months that Congress, not the Obama administration, should take the lead role in deciding whether and how much to police the web. But despite a brief backing-off earlier in the year, the FCC has pushed ahead with its new regulatory plan.

FCC Chairman Julius Genachowski secured the three votes needed for approval, despite firm opposition from the two Republicans on the five-member commission.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; alreadyposted; braking; duplicate; fcc; firstamendment; freespeech; genachowski; internet; obama; palin; regulate; sourcetitlenoturl; totalitarianism
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Legislators can ruin ANYTHING!
1 posted on 12/21/2010 10:40:28 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA

TYRANNY!


2 posted on 12/21/2010 10:41:45 AM PST by devistate one four ( jihad is a 2 way street! Kimber CDP II .45 OOHRAH! TET68)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Let the fines commence.

This is all about the money.

3 posted on 12/21/2010 10:42:00 AM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The statists ignore the law of unintended consequences at their own peril.


4 posted on 12/21/2010 10:42:07 AM PST by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The Obama Administration has no interest in stimulating the economy or in creating jobs. Their goal is to hurt American business and weaken the nation.


5 posted on 12/21/2010 10:42:28 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Red in Blue PA

Can Congress overturn this? How does the FCC have this authority?


6 posted on 12/21/2010 10:43:13 AM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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To: devistate one four

I honestly do not know what is in these regulations, so I don’t really have much of an opinion on this, other than my general opinion that regulations should be few and far between.


7 posted on 12/21/2010 10:44:15 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Red in Blue PA

We tried it you little people’s way.

And we found out that you say things we ruling elitists don’t agree with.

So we’re going to take your free speech.

When you learn how to use it, then you can have it back.

Now pay your taxes, we need a raise. :)


8 posted on 12/21/2010 10:44:55 AM PST by Tzimisce (It's just another day in Obamaland.)
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To: devistate one four

Isn’t the FCC all about airwaves?


9 posted on 12/21/2010 10:45:07 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Defund the FCC.


10 posted on 12/21/2010 10:46:21 AM PST by kevinm13 (Tim Geithner is a tax cheat. Manmade "Global Warming" is a HOAX!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The 112th House should DEFUND the FCC until they repeal this rule. Let’s see how the GOP stands up to unpopular opinions and instead rules on PRINCIPLE.


11 posted on 12/21/2010 10:48:02 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Another nail in the coffin of the quaint doctrine of “Separation of Powers” as a model of governance.

Obama, like the Supreme Court, has usurped the legislative process and both parties have acquiesced.


12 posted on 12/21/2010 10:49:04 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Damn it, Jim! I'm a doctor not a race relations Czar in the Obama administration.")
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To: Glenn

It’s about power. Power for liberal elites/


13 posted on 12/21/2010 10:49:21 AM PST by GOPJ (Best App for 'the world" : http://www.questvisual.com/)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Their goal is the acquisition and consolidation of power.

(another way of saying what you said ;-)


14 posted on 12/21/2010 10:50:06 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: Red in Blue PA

According to this article, the new rules “prohibit phone and cable companies from abusing their control over broadband connections to discriminate against rival content or services, such as Internet phone calls or online video, or play favorites with Web traffic”

How is that a bad thing? Is there more to “net neutrality” than that?


15 posted on 12/21/2010 10:50:38 AM PST by Theo (May Rome decrease and Christ increase.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

The Courts have overturned this once and will certainly do so again. The FCC has no jurisdiction or authority to regulate the internet.


16 posted on 12/21/2010 10:50:59 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Red in Blue PA
I keep waiting for the call to come out for TEA PARTY to descend on the District of Corruption. My pitchfork is ready.
17 posted on 12/21/2010 10:52:19 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Congress should abolish the FCC.


18 posted on 12/21/2010 10:53:03 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: circlecity
The Courts have overturned this once and will certainly do so again.

Oh you mean like the court's decision on offshore drilling in the Gulf??? That worked well - the Kenyan IGNORED IT.

Time to march folks...........
19 posted on 12/21/2010 10:54:20 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Red in Blue PA
sigh...Will the next Congress remove funding for the FCC next year? Would zer0 veto the removal of funds next year? What's next? Best not offer up any thoughts? This lame duck is whipping the heck out of the American people. Rush is right...this is scorched earth by this lame duck.
20 posted on 12/21/2010 10:54:49 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Cheerio
"Oh you mean like the court's decision on offshore drilling in the Gulf??? That worked well - the Kenyan IGNORED IT."

In this case if the Court overturns the FCC action the Internet carriers will be free to INGORE THEM. You see, it works both ways.

21 posted on 12/21/2010 10:57:02 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Theo
Is there more to “net neutrality” than that?

I'm sure there is. It's a couple thousands pages long. No one's probably even read it yet.

22 posted on 12/21/2010 10:57:17 AM PST by jersey117
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To: Red in Blue PA

When will we as a nation say enough is enough and do something about it?


23 posted on 12/21/2010 10:58:08 AM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

When will we as a nation say enough is enough and do something about it?


24 posted on 12/21/2010 10:58:19 AM PST by Wisconsinlady (DEFUND NPR, PBS, THE TSA AND THE U.N.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Technically, this is unenforceable. If the FCC would try to force AT&T to change their business model, AT&T would easily win in court (via recent USSC ruling).

Practically, if the Obama administration cannot get its way in court, it will resort to Chicago-style politics.

This is a blatant disregard for the separation of powers. The Executive branch is ignoring the Judicial branch. I hope the GOP House is ready to play hardball.


25 posted on 12/21/2010 10:59:04 AM PST by kidd
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To: RobRoy; Wisconsinlady

The pro side of this argument cites the ‘evil’ of Corporatism that must be leashed at every turn. My concern is that these folks do not similarly recognize the ‘evil’ of unrestrained government. I think that they believe that government can’t be evil.

The pro side argues that Comcast et al will charge different rates for users based on their habits and predilections (streaming movies etc) and possibly filtering some sites entirely. We know that it can be done - look at the content filtering that China does.

I maintain that whatever heavy-handedness that any corporation may wield, it pales in comparison to the routine heavy-handedness of government.

As for jurisdiction, I haven’t seen a single thing that authorizes the FCC to say what happens on the interwebby, but when has a little thing like that ever stopped dhimicrats?!


26 posted on 12/21/2010 11:00:18 AM PST by rockrr ("I said that I was scared of you!" - pokie the pretend cowboy)
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To: kidd
I hope the GOP House is ready to play hardball.

Like the way they are rolling over on START?
27 posted on 12/21/2010 11:00:40 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Wisconsinlady; Ellendra

Proceeding 09-191 comment submissions are still open, at http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/hotdocket/list
http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment_search/execute?proceeding=09-191

I don’t have the time to check whether this is the relevant proceeding, what the response status is, etc., but it might help someone with more knowledge on this agency and issue.


28 posted on 12/21/2010 11:00:46 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: circlecity

>>The FCC has no jurisdiction or authority to regulate the internet.<<

I am sorta treating this as if I were hearing a story that the FCC voted to regulate the newsprint industry.

Meh.


29 posted on 12/21/2010 11:01:01 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Theo
How is that a bad thing?

1) The USSC ruled that this is outside of the FCC's jurisdiction.

2) The FCC is not in the business of telling companies how to price and provide services. Generally the free market does that.

30 posted on 12/21/2010 11:03:30 AM PST by kidd
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To: kidd
This is what fascism looks like. Now the executive branch has a stick with which it can beat the carriers. The carriers might say "You can't get away with that!" But the executive branch can tie them up and make them miserable, if it wishes.

The most likely outcome is for the executive branch to say "Don't make me use this stick, here, why don't you just do business this way and there will be no trouble. Play along, and I won't bother you."

31 posted on 12/21/2010 11:04:13 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Gondring

Odd that they keep the comments open after the comment period and response and even this decision.

It might not help, but it’s good to be on record.


32 posted on 12/21/2010 11:04:55 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Your post nails it....that is exactly how it will play out.


33 posted on 12/21/2010 11:05:35 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Red in Blue PA

The new House. The one coming in a month. The one that was elected by a pissed off public, not the one that was snowed into thinking that Obama was the Messiah.


34 posted on 12/21/2010 11:05:39 AM PST by kidd
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To: rockrr

>>I maintain that whatever heavy-handedness that any corporation may wield, it pales in comparison to the routine heavy-handedness of government.<<

I look at it this way: If I refuse to buy a GM car, or use Comcast, or use Charmin toilet paper, what are those bad ol’ companies gonna do to me?

OTOH, if I refuse to cooperate with my government, people come to my home with guns and I get put in a place where I am afraid to drop the soap.

So...which should I fear?


35 posted on 12/21/2010 11:05:49 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: GOPJ
It’s about power

Exactly! Power...nothing more than power, period.

36 posted on 12/21/2010 11:06:58 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Red in Blue PA

More regulations, more social engineering...

... screw you, Julius Genachowski and your commie pinko pals!


37 posted on 12/21/2010 11:09:24 AM PST by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Red in Blue PA
There goes #5.

38 posted on 12/21/2010 11:09:55 AM PST by xeno
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To: kidd
2) The FCC is not in the business of telling companies how to price and provide services. Generally the free market does that.

Like the home mortgage market works in the "free market" and yet Freddie and Fanny made "affordable housing" available to everyone.

Do NOT trust anything your Government is doing for you. I want the Government cut down, way down in size. Use the power of the purse.
39 posted on 12/21/2010 11:10:29 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Red in Blue PA

More information then a FoxNews report:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9201918/FCC_approves_compromise_Net_neutrality_rules?taxonomyId=70


40 posted on 12/21/2010 11:12:42 AM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Theo

Nose. Camel. Tent.


41 posted on 12/21/2010 11:14:19 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Can this be undone?


42 posted on 12/21/2010 11:22:35 AM PST by Reagan69 (Let me know when those health insurance premiums go down.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m unclear as to why they can’t extend their control over cable and satillite as well as Internet? It seems they would if they could or are the leaving that to “Big Sis”?


43 posted on 12/21/2010 11:23:22 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: circlecity

Like Jackson, Barry will tell the Court to enforce their ruling if they can. Unless the Court is willing to direct Federal Marshals to arrest those at the FCC who try and regulate the Internet, the FCC will just go about the business of shutting down whatever it doesn’t like, raising rates, and granting preferences to those who support the regime.

The Republicans are being challenged on every front by Barry and his merry band of czars sticking it to the public in a hundred different places all at the same time. They figure that no matter how many fingers Congress manages to come up with they won’t be able to plug all the holes in the dike. Republicans better man up and take this gang of thugs down or there won’t be a way to recover from them.

Regards


44 posted on 12/21/2010 11:24:14 AM PST by Rashputin (Barry is totally insane and being kept medicated and on golf courses to hide the fact)
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To: Red in Blue PA

This must be stopped. Brutally,,, controlling the internet is even more critical to these communists than controlling guns.

Given the choice between the internet and guns, they would seize the internet. Guns are meaningless if they control the information we can spread, and our ability to quickly organize.


45 posted on 12/21/2010 11:28:19 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Rashputin
"the FCC will just go about the business of shutting down whatever it doesn’t like, raising rates, and granting preferences to those who support the regime."

And how will it do that if the Courts rule against them? The FCC doesn't man the controls at Comcast nor does it print the bills. If the Court rules against these new regulations I don't the FCC will send in storm troopers in SWAT vehicles to take over the independent internet service providers.

46 posted on 12/21/2010 11:30:19 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Red in Blue PA

TIME FOR PITCHFORKS!! that’s what Sen. Clare said!!


47 posted on 12/21/2010 11:31:08 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

A disgusting socialist would say, “we need to pass the regulation of free speech so you can find out what it used to be like to have free speech”. Another, even more disgusting, socialist would say, “when you control spreading free speech around, everyone benefits”. A real American once said,”The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” I hope the thug in our White House isn’t going to step forward as a tyrant to an even greater extent than already.


48 posted on 12/21/2010 11:31:27 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Red in Blue PA
To many of us the internet is currently the greatest implementation of FREEDOM OF THE PRESS!
49 posted on 12/21/2010 11:34:37 AM PST by 1_Of_We
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To: mrmeyer
The statists ignore the law of unintended consequences at their own peril.

Broadband internet rates will either rise or we will be charged per byte for uploads and downloads or something like cell phones with so much per month flat rated and a pay per byte after exceeding some limit.

50 posted on 12/21/2010 11:34:57 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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