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New START treaty passes key Senate vote (Cloture passes 67-28, 11 R support)
Los Angeles Times ^ | Dec 22, 2010 | Lisa Mascaro and Michael Muskal

Posted on 12/21/2010 1:25:07 PM PST by Innovative

The Senate voted 67-28 to pass a cloture motion, seemingly enough to assure final ratification. Eleven Republicans joined with 56 Democrats to pass the cloture motion.

It will take 67 votes to ratify the New Start pact, which would give the Obama administration its top foreign policy goal in the lame-duck session.

Among Republicans announcing their support were Richard G. Lugar of Indiana, George V. Voinovich of Ohio, Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Olympia J. Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine, Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker of Tennessee, Johnny Isakson of Georgia, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Thad Cochran of Mississippi, and Bob Bennett of Utah. All voted for cloture.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: bobbennett; congress; corker; disarmament; howiecarr; isakson; lamaralexander; lugar; murkowski; nationalsecurityfail; obama; rememberthenames; scottbrown; snowe; start; starttreaty; surrender; susancollins; thadcochran; ussenate; voinovich
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To: butterdezillion

Yep. They are throwing our rebellion right in our faces, to show us who really is in charge.


51 posted on 12/21/2010 1:53:48 PM PST by mrsmel
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To: 4woodenboats
Lugar
52 posted on 12/21/2010 1:53:54 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Pelosi texts for a lifeline - "blinkblinkblink blink blink blink blinkblinkblink blink.....")
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To: Innovative

I donated to Brown last year; just replied to the latest fundraising email. They may figure out they’ll be getting no more donations from these quarters.


53 posted on 12/21/2010 1:54:03 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Monterrosa-24

Wish I had that Garand.


54 posted on 12/21/2010 1:54:21 PM PST by calex59
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To: butterdezillion
R’s opt to “cooperate” with the losers is as close to flipping the bird at the voters as anything I can imagine.

Nothing close about it, they outright did it and will continue to do it another 2 years. Senate wise, we have accomplished nothing.

55 posted on 12/21/2010 1:55:58 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: Innovative

More Support for Arms Control Treaty (BOTH TENNESSEE GOP SENATORS)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2645834/posts

KEEP HITTING REDIAL

Sen. Corker’s office [202-224-3344]

Sen. Lamar Alexander 202-224-4944

Mitch McConnell
202-224-2541

BOTH Tennessee senators are supporting this START Treaty. Contact them and encourage them to vote NO! Elections have CONSEQUENCES! Make the call a twofer add the FCC Net Neutrality to the list,

Toll-Free number to the Congressional Switchboard (866) 338-1015.


56 posted on 12/21/2010 1:57:09 PM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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To: Innovative

We may remember their names and boot them out of office in the next elections but the damage they are doing to our Country RIGHT NOW is beyond TREASON!

This treaty will tie our defense hands so badly that there will be little room for us to defend ourselves against an emerging threat.


57 posted on 12/21/2010 1:58:57 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Yea! Let’s replace him with a Kennedy! Better to have a 100% Socialist back in the Senate from Massachusettes! We need to elect a CONSERVATIVE from that state like...................?........................?....................?.......................?.....................?.......................?.............................................?.....................?.................?..........................................?

Brown is the best were going to do from the People’s Republic of Massachusettes. That’s a fact. Voting him out would be STUPID.


58 posted on 12/21/2010 2:00:21 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: OldMissileer

Hey, they received a flowery letter from their BFF, Obama. It isn’t though he would lie. I mean, he said that we could keep our healthcare plans, if we liked them...


59 posted on 12/21/2010 2:01:00 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Innovative

Disgusting performance by 11 ‘Republican’ senators helping the anti-American Obama while screwing over Americas national defense. Like so many others, I’m enraged and frustrated by ‘Republican’ traitors voting for liberal Democrat bills that do harm to our country and it’s people, be it a loss of personal freedom, bad economic programs or foolish concessions in what passes for ‘foreign policy’. Appeasing Lisa Murkowski was a stupid, futile act of cowardice by Mitch McConnell, the Republican minority ‘leader’ in the senate. Murkowski obviously intends to vote with the Democrats from this point on so why is she allowed to hold committee positions when she spits in the face of the senate Republican ‘leadership’? The old ‘collegially’ nonsense at work again? Somebody should tell Mitch McConnell there is a war on (Democrats versus America).


60 posted on 12/21/2010 2:02:04 PM PST by Jim Scott
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To: Innovative
Compromise is: getting rid of your principles a little bit at a time. - Patrick Lear

***
If these scum had any principles at the start!

61 posted on 12/21/2010 2:03:06 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ((B.?) Hussein (Obama?Soetoro?Dunham?) Change America Will Die From.)
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To: Blueflag

Call Mitch McConnell’s office he is after all susposedly IN CONTROL of his senators. Remind them of NOVEMBER and we are taking names and recording votes.

KEEP HITTING REDIAL

Sen. Corker’s office 202-224-3344

Sen. Lamar Alexander 202-224-4944

Mitch McConnell 202-224-2541

Toll-Free number to the Congressional Switchboard (866) 338-1015.


62 posted on 12/21/2010 2:06:09 PM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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To: Innovative

Someoen please explain to me the difference in GOP’ers and the Commurats. /sar


63 posted on 12/21/2010 2:06:16 PM PST by animal172 (Where are you America?)
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To: sourcery

Actually, only 9 of the 11. Voinovich (OH)
and Bennett (UT) have already been beaten in primaries or announced their retirements. This is their final middle finger to the people of America.


64 posted on 12/21/2010 2:07:03 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: GailA

Corker and Brown must be driven out in 2012.

Support Primary opponents and eliminate then period.

Brown has a pro Dem party voting record .


65 posted on 12/21/2010 2:09:31 PM PST by ncalburt (Get Even on Election Day)
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To: LeonardFMason

We ought to have been rid of Arlen Specter 50 years before he finally jumped ship. His mere presence made it difficult to impossible for anyone else to come forward. Its better to dump the Specters, and the Castles and the like, than to allow them to do damage with impunity. If they want to run with the Dems, let them run as a Dem. They should know that betrayal will be answered by their rank and file and they’ll get to go back to selling real estate or chasing ambulances or whatever it was they did before going to Washington.

Guys that betray you on the important votes are more trouble than they are worth. They give Dems cover, allowing them to claim that their worst policies are “bipartisan” instead of them having to own them.

So I agree with the others. Take names. And remember them.


66 posted on 12/21/2010 2:10:41 PM PST by marron
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To: LeonardFMason

Wrong. Voting out Scott Brown will send a message to the other Senators that they work for the people and can and will be dismissed when they neglect their duty. He has done nothing to help conservatives on any issue and is worse than useless.


67 posted on 12/21/2010 2:12:13 PM PST by littleharbour
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To: Jim Scott

Mitch let these people vot this way.

His K street buds wanted the treaty.

Mitch is a K street front man and a complete crook.


68 posted on 12/21/2010 2:12:30 PM PST by ncalburt (Get Even on Election Day)
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To: littleharbour

Corker needs to GO in 2012 too.


69 posted on 12/21/2010 2:13:11 PM PST by ncalburt (Get Even on Election Day)
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To: mewzilla

Well the rush has something to do with something. Don’t know about the rest of y’all but I was born at night, just not last night.

This thing was negotiated back in April. Now Obamer wants to push it through. And no one thinks this is odd?

As I understand it, even Russia’s going around telling people that the treaty will prevent America from retrofitting some its current nuke stock into anti-missile weapons. Obamer supposedly wrote the senators a letter this past weekend denying this but right there you gotta know something ain’t right. This treaty is NOT supposed to have any impact on a nation’s nuclear stockpile held for DEFENSE.

The treaty will allow the Democratic party to refuse to spend money on defense, that dollar-slurping bugaboo that keeps money away from their voter base and thus votes for THEM.

There’s no reason whatsoever for this vote to be pushed through at this time EXCEPT...just throwing it out there...America’s all busy getting ready for the busy holiday season, the lame duck session allows for passage of nasty stuff a more tea party oriented congress will, again, throwing it out there, might actually READ.

The Repubs voting for this thing are getting something for their vote, I got a bridge to sell you if you don’t think so.

And do NOT count on these pubs getting voted out come 2012. By that time some ancient vote on a nothing burger treaty, which this IS, will be of little iimport to busy Americans carrying this country on its back.

Russia’s hardly our problem when it comes to nukes, dear Lord. It’s Iran, Venezuela and N. Korea more a problem. But treaties, come the year 2525, can be used for a President, should a nuclear war NOT happen, as a way to make a president look like a statesman. Like I said, it will be used as a reason NOT to spend money on defense and maybe a way for Obamer to look like the President who prevented the Russians, a gubmmint making bazillions on oil with not much interest at any rate on making a nuke stockpile save to sell their knowledge to other rogue countries listed above....from melting the world.

Biggest problem here which you all seem to be conveniently forgetting, and give Obamer credit, he got SIX former Repub Secs of Defense to come out and defend this thing.

THERE’S the problem. The pubs were backed into a corner cause Joe Six Pack will surely wonder why one earth the pub senators are so against something the former Secs of Def serving Repub presidents endorse.

The pubs, God bless their perfect head hairs and fine tans, never do stuff like that. Why the hell don’t the pubs go out and bribe six former DEM secs of state?

Bottom line, this is a nothing thing and the pubs don’t want to fight it, they don’t want to fight their own former Secs of defense, they want to go home for Christmas....

....if only the pubs were as smart and sneaky as the Dems, then it might be an even playing field.


70 posted on 12/21/2010 2:14:11 PM PST by Fishtalk (Dance like nobody's watching; Sing like nobody's listening; Blog like nobody's reading.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“We have to end lame duck session and seat new people as soon as their elections are validated. There’s no need for delay with modern media and modern transportation.

And these freaking republicans. In 2006 we had a repub lame duck congress, didn’t pass ANYTHING. in 2010 bending over ass backwards to give dems what they want.

Stupid senate mother effers.”

******************************

THEY ARE NOT STUPID. They know precisely what they are doing.

Please stop pretending they give a d*mn!!!!! Please!!!!


71 posted on 12/21/2010 2:15:14 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Innovative

From the article: “...Republicans have argued that the Obama administration needs to increase funding for modernization of nuclear weapons and materials as part of its push for the treaty. The White House has added money for modernization, some of which will go to a nuclear facility in Tennessee.

Corker cited the modernization funds in explaining his support for the pact.”

—Corker and Alexander are being bought off. Apparently, pork is more important to them than national security.

Why not reject this flawed treaty...and then work on modernizing nukes with the new Congress in January?


72 posted on 12/21/2010 2:15:54 PM PST by Qbert
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To: Innovative; All
Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker of Tennessee, Johnny Isakson of Georgia... Thad Cochran of Mississippi...

Southern morons. WTF gives, boys?

73 posted on 12/21/2010 2:18:29 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: GailA
Mitch McConnell is not up to the job. Why is it a foregone conclusion that he will still be the minority leader? He needs to be replaced with someone more energetic and forceful.

The Republicans are just pathetic.

74 posted on 12/21/2010 2:19:28 PM PST by SMM48
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To: Innovative

Richard G. Lugar of Indiana, George V. Voinovich of Ohio, Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Olympia J. Snowe and Susan Collins of Maine, Lamar Alexander and Bob Corker of Tennessee, Johnny Isakson of Georgia, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Thad Cochran of Mississippi, and Bob Bennett of Utah

We’re making a list, we’re checking it twice...


75 posted on 12/21/2010 2:20:21 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Innovative

Three questions:
1. Are these Republicans this stupid, nefarious or something else...seriously, why would they weaken the US in this manner?
2. Murkowski...is she the winner now? I’ve heard nothing about Miller and the court challenges...is it official?
3. Has the House voted?


76 posted on 12/21/2010 2:27:10 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: Army Air Corps

Don’t be too hard on Murkowski. The real culprit are the Alaskan voters.

Kruschev was correct. Communism is America’s political
profile and the willing idiot’s voted to dismantle freedom.
No shot was fired.


77 posted on 12/21/2010 2:28:04 PM PST by ChiMark
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To: Qbert

Predictable as Rush knowing every part of his naked body. I have stated here for yrs, when this corrupt “Two-Party Cartel” needs the vote from their bought & paid commies/elites etc they just magically get the 67 necessary votes. Now if they needed 90 just magically they would have them. Yessiree, the taxpayers have been taken & they continue to go down to the ballot box & spending their few dollars on these corrupt or soon to be corrupt bastards.


78 posted on 12/21/2010 2:28:51 PM PST by Digger (If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election)
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To: calex59

She looks like Vic Morrow incarnate!


79 posted on 12/21/2010 2:29:26 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Innovative

TRAITORS——every last one of them....Dems & RINO’s.


80 posted on 12/21/2010 2:29:33 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Monterrosa-24

Bennett doesn’t care-—he has only about 14 more days to be in Washington.

Wonder how he will explain this to his Utah Mormons?????


81 posted on 12/21/2010 2:30:50 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Murkowski voted for it because Palin was against it.


82 posted on 12/21/2010 2:31:24 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: ratsreek

Realistically, we have no GOP Senators from the Northeast.


83 posted on 12/21/2010 2:35:43 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: Servant of the Cross
It gives a whole whore new meaning to "Remember the Maine!!!"

Remember the names... Lugar (IN) Voinovich (OH) Brown (MA) Snowe (ME) Collins (ME) Alexander (TN) Corker (TN) Isakson (GA) Murkowski (AK) Cochran (MS) Bennett (UT)

84 posted on 12/21/2010 2:37:58 PM PST by rfp1234 (Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!)
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To: CincyRichieRich

The House does not vote on Treaties.


85 posted on 12/21/2010 2:38:25 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: montag813

I think it is time to really get on McConnell. This man is not leading the caucus like he should. He’s way too weak, and he doesn’t even seem to see it coming. He was on Hannity a few weeks ago and Hannity asked if Reid was going to bring up DREAM Act, START, DADT. McConnell, just answered, “I don’t know, it’s up to the majority leader, gotta pass the tax deal, yadda, yadda, yadda.” I think McConnell needs to really get pummelled with calls and mail and pressured to step down from the leadership. And if Boehner cries one more time, he should get the boot too.


86 posted on 12/21/2010 2:39:20 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: SMM48
Bawling Boehner and Mumbles McConnell...OUT!!! Get rid of them. If ever there was a time to show We The People that they will fight for the Constitution and for the good of the people, it is NOW! So what have these two shown us?

And then we MUST purge the RINOS, the socialist/communists/fascists/marxists/revolutionaries and muslim sympathizers. A long, tough road ahead for We The People. Let our Fore Fathers and patriots of yore be our guide. We can and shall do this, so help us God.

87 posted on 12/21/2010 2:40:01 PM PST by itssme
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To: rod1

I think you’re right on this. It’s a likely explanation.


88 posted on 12/21/2010 2:40:22 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: Innovative

Can’t wait to see the look on those pub faces when he tells them we have to cut missile defense as part of the deficit reduction. Of course, I would believe that would be an impeachable offense.


89 posted on 12/21/2010 2:40:43 PM PST by Always Independent
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To: Innovative

As a resident of the 5th district of Maryland I have always felt that I was wasting my time voting, because Steny Hoyer and Barbara Mikulski and Cardin , the democrats always win.

I always thought that Republicans in Maryland never get recognised.

Now I know that it doesn’t matter whether you vote for democrat or republican, There is always a traitor amongst the republcan party that will sell us out.

In this case 11 of them. What a sorry lot these RINO POS are.

They just voted to make America defenseless.


90 posted on 12/21/2010 2:40:53 PM PST by Venturer
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The GOP has 3 Nancy Pelosi’s in the Senate (Collins, Snowe, Murkowski)


91 posted on 12/21/2010 2:41:40 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: who knows what evil?

No surprise. Both Tennessee Senators are RINOs. In fact I’m surprised only one of the Georgia RINO twins, Johnny Isakson, voted for it. I was sure old Saxby Chambliss would be right there with him. And even only one of the Utah RINO duo, (senate seat terminated) Bob Bennett, voted for it, I’m pretty sure Old Orin Hatch would have voted for it except for the fact that he is up for re-election in 2012.

Double RINO States:

Georgia with Isakson and Chambliss

Maine with Snowe, and Collins

Tennessee with Corker and Alexander

Texas with Hutchinson and Cornyn

Utah with Bennett (in his last days) and Hatch

Maine is the only state with a possible reason for voting in double RINOs. The other states should be ashamed of themselves.


92 posted on 12/21/2010 2:48:01 PM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: itssme

Let’s have this GOP Civil War RIGHT NOW! Let’s have it nuclear style so it ends soon enough for the 2012 election to bring conservatives to victory. No more dancing with RINOs, and looking over the shoulder to see them vote with Obama time and again.


93 posted on 12/21/2010 2:48:18 PM PST by Windy City Conservative (Kyle Smith)
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To: Puppage

Yes. And the DREAM act will become law through executive order and the courts.


94 posted on 12/21/2010 2:50:11 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Steelfish

You got that right..no more pubbies for me!

TEA party forever!

Republicans can go the way of the wiggs.


95 posted on 12/21/2010 2:55:48 PM PST by devistate one four ( jihad is a 2 way street! Kimber CDP II .45 OORAH! TET68)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Being a Mississippi born, present Tennessee resident, words fail me to call these three traitors low enough names to fit their deeds....I will do all I can to see that they never get reelected.


96 posted on 12/21/2010 2:56:17 PM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: ChiMark

Don’t jump to conclusions. Still before the Alaska Supreme Court and all may not have been handled “above board” by various officials. More may be known a little later. She has not been certified as the winner.


97 posted on 12/21/2010 2:58:07 PM PST by jennings2004 (Sarah Palin: "The bright light at the end of a very dark tunnel!")
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To: TruthConquers
THEY ARE NOT STUPID. They know precisely what they are doing. Please stop pretending they give a d*mn!!!!! Please!!!!

Exactly right! The arrogant "elites" in Washington know quite clearly what they are doing. The RINOs and weak Republicans are purposely "screwing" conservatives, even though it will do great damage to our Republic. The elites are beyond contempt. Dark days are ahead.

98 posted on 12/21/2010 3:16:21 PM PST by sand88
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To: SMM48

We need another HAMMER! McConnell is no more up to the job than Mike Steele.


99 posted on 12/21/2010 3:17:14 PM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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To: Innovative

I just heard on FOX radio news that Obama hasn’t give up on the DREAM Act and that he met this afternoon with the Hispanic House caucus and told them his intention to keep trying to pass this garbage.


100 posted on 12/21/2010 3:26:30 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan......A Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
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