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The Dept. Of Homeland Security Literally Has No Idea What's Going On
Business Insider ^ | Dec. 22, 2010 | Glynnis MacNicol

Posted on 12/23/2010 11:41:28 AM PST by george76

The fallout from the Dept. of Homeland Security's interview with Diane Sawyer keeps getting worse.

Following Janet Napolitano's "364 days a year" gaffe (funny if not all that worrisome) Sawyer asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper about the arrests of 12 suspected terrorists in London earlier that morning.

Said Sawyer: "First of all, London. How serious is it? Any implication that it was coming here?"

He didn't know what she was taking about.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: clapper; jamesclapper; theclap

1 posted on 12/23/2010 11:41:30 AM PST by george76
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To: george76
Yep - He was caught red-handed "out-to-lunch" and ill-informed.

His priority was to conduct a TV interview that day and nothing else really mattered. Heads should roll, and it should begin with his.

2 posted on 12/23/2010 11:50:34 AM PST by Dustoff45 (Do we really have a President? Or merely someone who pretends to be the President on TV?)
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To: george76

Up until this week I at least thought they had a clue of some sort. Now I know I was wrong. They are clueless. They are all having a grand ole time on our dime. I am sure they have hangovers most of the time. They are all high and mighty pushing “diversity” and “social justice” on the masses.


3 posted on 12/23/2010 11:51:08 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: george76

The pathetic excuse I read in another thread about Clapper NOT being briefed on the matter was just that, pathetic.

Can one imagine knowing “the boss” was doing an interview on National television with Diane Sawyer, and Napolitano, and nobody briefing the man. Nobody bringing him up to date.

This is one of the most mismanaged misAdministrations perhaps ever. These people can’t find their butts with either, or both hands together.


4 posted on 12/23/2010 11:53:28 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: george76

They know what is going on but they have an agenda that they are committed to which makes them look incompetent.


5 posted on 12/23/2010 11:53:32 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: george76

Can you imagine if President Bush’s intelligence agency did this? Nipalitano saying, “we’re ready 24/7 364 days.” and now Clapper had absolutely no clue about terrorist attacks on our closest ally. Geez!


6 posted on 12/23/2010 11:54:27 AM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: george76

What concerns me is that the DHS has become a Gestapo-like organization that’s more worried about Obama’s domestic political opposition than international terrorists. That would explain why the border and Islamic terrorists are getting no scrutiny whatsoever.


7 posted on 12/23/2010 11:56:41 AM PST by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: george76

Their main interest is finding an evil Christian militia somewhere so they can pull an OKC on it. So far they haven’t had much luck.


8 posted on 12/23/2010 12:02:32 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: 23 Everest
Oh, give em a break! Obama's making sure all 57 states are safe! :)
9 posted on 12/23/2010 12:03:40 PM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay (Why Johnny Ringo, you look like someone just walked over your grave!)
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To: StayoutdaBushesWay

Ha Ha, I was going to include that. LOL


10 posted on 12/23/2010 12:06:51 PM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: rockinqsranch
My take upon watching it was that he's a new guy who's probably been briefed thoroughly on a gazillion things BUT he was suddenly faced with a question about something he believed to be highly classified.

Remember, just because it's in the news doesn't mean you can start yacking about it if it is classified ~ all you do then is give credence to the report.

His response was identical to the one almost all these guys give when they don't know if a story has been declassified.

No doubt he will receive some briefing on better ways to deal with the problem.

Bill Clinton used to immediately change the subject, and sometimes just lie about something else to distract his questioners.

11 posted on 12/23/2010 12:08:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

“My take upon watching it was that he’s a new guy who’s probably been briefed thoroughly on a gazillion things BUT he was suddenly faced with a question about something he believed to be highly classified.”

Yeah, right. It was “classified.”

That’s why, as the video says, the story was ALL OVER THE NEWS while the guy says, quite credibly, that he didn’t know anything about it.

Nope, incompetence is incompetence. Face reality.


12 posted on 12/23/2010 12:18:32 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: muawiyah

“Remember, just because it’s in the news doesn’t mean you can start yacking about it if it is classified ~ all you do then is give credence to the report.”

He DIDN’T give credence to the report. He knew NOTHING ABOUT IT. How competent is that?


13 posted on 12/23/2010 12:20:07 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: george76

If ever our enemies want to do us harm they’d better do it now what with this incompetent regime.


14 posted on 12/23/2010 12:21:11 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Lawyer And A Painter Can Change Black To White)
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To: muawiyah

Agree, but the man is the head of National Intelligence, and I would believe that as such he SHOULD know if something is classified, or not. That is of course if the man knew his job, and was concerned with doing it well.

Most all involved with the Left are more in it to achieve goals for an agenda than they are to do the job itself. I’ve seen the attitude of letting something take care of itself, or letting subordinates manage while “the boss” is working on a goal, or project before, and that is what I believe I’m seeing a lot of in D.C. today.


15 posted on 12/23/2010 12:22:27 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: muawiyah
My take upon watching it was that he's a new guy who's probably been briefed thoroughly on a gazillion things BUT he was suddenly faced with a question about something he believed to be highly classified.

Then why did he apologize for not knowing about them?

16 posted on 12/23/2010 12:32:04 PM PST by raybbr (Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
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To: george76

One thing we can’t overlook is the director’s proposed “solution” to the terrorist threat.

He wants to open a “dialog” with Muslims. That’s the problem, you see. No one is listening to them, while they threaten to kill all non-Muslims.

They are just misunderstood, doncha know. Liberals are idiots.


17 posted on 12/23/2010 12:37:38 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: Spok; Cicero

Yep!


18 posted on 12/23/2010 12:39:34 PM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: muawiyah
Didn't matter. . . it was reported in the news and he should have been briefed by his staff, and his staff should have provided him with unclass answers. Happens all the time and for someone at his level to be caught like that shows incompetence and classlessness beyond comment.

He's an idiot.

19 posted on 12/23/2010 12:41:39 PM PST by Hulka
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To: george76

Apparently, someone has the laughable idea that it’s the job of government agencies to “know what they’re doing.”

Nothing could be farther from the truth.

It’s the job of government agencies to waste taxpayer money employing the hard core unemployable and setting road blocks in the way of ordinary Americans to stroke the pathetic egos of imbeciles. Period.


20 posted on 12/23/2010 12:46:51 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Hulka

He’ll get smarter with new staff people.


21 posted on 12/23/2010 12:46:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: george76
Clapper On,

Clapper Off-

Lights out

-nobody home,

Security?

22 posted on 12/23/2010 12:50:32 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: muawiyah

Clapper’s been in the intel world for years - was at NSA and Air Intelligence Agency before he retired. He wasn’t briefed and didn’t know, which is an indictment both of his subordinates and of him, for not insisting on getting the daily brief that goes to the White House.

Colonel, USAFR


23 posted on 12/23/2010 12:53:11 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: jagusafr

I believe that many conservatives continue to make the unbelievable assumption that this regime is merely incompetent, merely misguided in their efforts to protect this country and it people, and to maintain the greatness of our nation. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Perhaps these three stooges on the Sawyer show are incompetent, but they were put there, and are kept there, on purpose by higher authorities who WANT the worst for our nation and its people.

It’s time for those still asleep to wake up, and quit cutting these people the slack of thinking that our leaders mean us well. They do not.


24 posted on 12/23/2010 1:09:13 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: george76

There is only one way to deal with government failure like this: send them even more of our tax dollars. /sarcasm


25 posted on 12/23/2010 1:16:00 PM PST by Minipax
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To: ColdOne

They sure spent incredible amounts of energy studying what gay soldiers like to do with their wee wees...

Now, we can go to the airport and they can gaze at our wee wees and grope our wee wees to make sure our little wee wees are safe for air travel.

Amazing technology!

My wee wee somehow doesn’t feel much safer in a lead condom today than it did Sept. 10, 2000 A.D. just swinging in the breeze...

And the borders are still wide open!


26 posted on 12/23/2010 1:16:31 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: dagogo redux

This is the same regime that tells us we can “absorb” another terror attack, and pretty much insists that one is inevitable...

but doesn’t seem the least bit interested in being informed and preventing it.


27 posted on 12/23/2010 1:18:16 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: muawiyah

muawiyah, Did you really watch this interview? If so you, like many others, have a very serious problem and it is psychological problem. James Clapper’s exact words in response to why he didn’t know were, “Oh, I,m sorry I didn’t.” According to your theory, this was a very clever lie. However, the defense of Clapper did not take that route. His office claimed that Sawyer’s question was “ambiguous.” The question was, “London. How serious is it? Any implications that it was coming here?” The conforms to Brennan’s remark, “You referred to London, but you didn’t talk about the arrests.” Just another trick questions from the right-wing media I guess. Stick to your guns muawiyah and remember “Obama did not bow.” Oh, don’t forget to take your meds.


28 posted on 12/23/2010 1:25:48 PM PST by Vehmgericht
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To: george76

This was a very serious lack of knowledge on the part of DHS, and Clapper. Watching the video, you can tell he was caught red-handed with no clue, and he looked the part. Even the dim Obama admin must wince when things like this happens.


29 posted on 12/23/2010 1:57:50 PM PST by devane617 (NEVER feed your cats canned Tuna fish. Mercury poisoning.)
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To: george76

The Department of Homeland Security has bigger fish to fry that worrying about terrorists and terrorist plots.

Their goal is to turn America and its citizens into placid, compliant sheep ... to invade the personal space of law-abiding citizens with naked Xrays and invasive searches, and to invade the public space with “citizen snitch” programs rolled out at WalMart, et al.

The goal is to make all Americans inured to government intrusions of all types. The “War on Terror” and the threat of terrorism are just convenient excuses.

If this government gave a damn about Homeland Security we would not have 15+ million illegal aliens roaming freely, and borders like sieves.


30 posted on 12/23/2010 2:08:18 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Vehmgericht
Gee, I saw the interview, and I've been living around DC for over 40 years and have seen PLENTY of appointees, career bureaucrats and politicians LIE.

There are some pretty standard ways they cover the fact they don't know if they are allowed to comment on stuff ~ he used one of them, but he's a newbie. In a matter of weeks he'll have it down and he'll tell you lies and you'll love it.

31 posted on 12/23/2010 3:04:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Yes, classified. Some of you guys just don't get it. If you've heard classified information and are told that it's classified, the standard rule is to treat it as classified until someone in authority over it tells you it's been DECLASSIFIED.

If it hasn't been DECLASSIFIED and it's still CLASSIFIED, it doesn't matter who had it all over the news.

32 posted on 12/23/2010 3:06:45 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: rockinqsranch

What you are seeing is NOT NEW and not at all peculiar to the leftwingtards.


33 posted on 12/23/2010 3:08:05 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: raybbr
He LIED TO YOU RAYBBR, HE LIED.

Gosh, aren't you surprised somebody in WarshDC would tell a lie ~ in public even!

WOW.

34 posted on 12/23/2010 3:09:06 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: jagusafr
Could be. Maybe not. I don't know anything about his staff ~ although I do know people over there in that agency who would probably let this guy step into an open elevator shaft just to hear the thunk at the bottom ~ but they'd do that for anyone.

He might even be a drunk.

35 posted on 12/23/2010 3:11:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The agenda makes them look incompetent?

You don't look incompetent without an incompetent agenda...and you don't have an incompetent agenda unless you are, if fact, incompetent!

36 posted on 12/23/2010 3:22:35 PM PST by HardStarboard (I'm sure George and Dick had quiet smiles while watching the election results!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
The agenda makes them look incompetent?

You don't look incompetent without an incompetent agenda...and you don't have an incompetent agenda unless you are, if fact, incompetent!

37 posted on 12/23/2010 3:22:46 PM PST by HardStarboard (I'm sure George and Dick had quiet smiles while watching the election results!)
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To: george76
We still have a "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy for terrorists.

No one in the administration can bring themselves to accuse anyone who has comitted a terrorist act, a terrorist. That runs the risk of upsetting them even more.

If the risk level wasn't excalating, it would be humorous.

38 posted on 12/23/2010 3:28:21 PM PST by HardStarboard (I'm sure George and Dick had quiet smiles while watching the election results!)
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To: HardStarboard
If the risk level wasn't excalating, it would be humorous.

The only thing that's going to wake this country up is some major attack or an all-out war. I'm convinced that day isn't too far off in the future.

39 posted on 12/23/2010 3:30:47 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: HardStarboard
“excalating” = escalating!
40 posted on 12/23/2010 3:30:51 PM PST by HardStarboard (I'm sure George and Dick had quiet smiles while watching the election results!)
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To: muawiyah

Curious why you are so anxious to go to ridiculous lengths to defend these imbeciles? Janet “The System Worked, the terrorists are hiding out at Wsl-Mart, returning vets should be on a terrorist list” Napolitano and company.

You can’t be serious. Like I said, wake up and face reality.


41 posted on 12/23/2010 4:53:44 PM PST by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
You are running down the wrong road. This Napolitano woman probably has a boyfriend in AlQaida and you want to prove that because she hires drunks that she's just incompetent.

Think about this a few moments ~ but isn't this typical of the Democrats? They actually could be competent but they don't care.

42 posted on 12/23/2010 4:57:52 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

If you had said girlfriend, I would been with you, but, no one that has ever seen Janet would accuse her of having a boyfriend.


43 posted on 12/23/2010 5:02:08 PM PST by sport
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To: george76

44 posted on 12/23/2010 5:10:59 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: sport
She's pretty rough, so one of those "I am pure" type Moslem fanatics probably ought to get her attention. She's a powerful woman ~ a type unknown to them ~ so her attraction is that she's totally exotic.

A match made in Hell.

45 posted on 12/23/2010 5:40:17 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: HardStarboard

One man’s incompetence is another man’s agenda!


46 posted on 12/23/2010 6:49:46 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: george76

"No no no you infidels
The System worked
because the bomb didn't

We now have an Muslim "outreach" program to fix everything!

And all your Hum-V are STILL belong to us"

47 posted on 12/23/2010 11:03:38 PM PST by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: george76

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pWBJiW0Xpo

The Clapper Caper


48 posted on 12/29/2010 7:35:01 PM PST by pompelmous (Unintended consequences)
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