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Russia Puts Off Final OK of START Treaty to January
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/12/24/russia-puts-start-treaty-january-early-approval/ ^

Posted on 12/24/2010 5:43:26 AM PST by macquire

Russian lawmakers gave preliminary approval Friday to an arms agreement with the United States, but signaled they would slow progress on the so-called New START treaty to a crawl after it was rushed through Congress earlier this week with some 11th-hour arm-twisting by President Obama.

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To: macquire

“”head of the State Duma’s foreign affairs committee, said it would take until next month “at the earliest” for the treaty to receive its three required readings and get a final vote. Lawmakers’ vacation lasts until Jan. 11. “”

Gee whiz! Our legislators can’t even read a bill ONCE.


51 posted on 12/24/2010 3:10:15 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: screaminsunshine

Not too many want to be married either.


52 posted on 12/24/2010 3:10:51 PM PST by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: Jim Robinson
Obama is an IDIOT!! And so are any Republicans that went along with this treasonous crap!!

George Bush actually did a good job with savvy as POTUS and earned the respect of other sovereign nations as conveyed freely to the people.

Obama is earning the title of idiot and we along with other citizens of nations are coping with it until we have a true leader once again.

Alas, we could lose the freedom of speech because of federal commission dictate under this idiot.

53 posted on 12/24/2010 3:14:42 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: screaminsunshine

Fags in the military was put in place to get the military to vote democRAT.


54 posted on 12/24/2010 6:21:45 PM PST by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: macquire

Exactly.....Russia see’s what kinds of BS Treaty they can get Obama to sign and they know want to re-negotiate knowing they can get much more.............


55 posted on 12/24/2010 6:31:10 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: macquire

Pray that the Dumas does not ratify START. Then it comes back to the US and we can dump it. This prez is an idiot, and we were snookered. This is a 1980’s type treaty, that Reagan would have dumped quick. We need to be able to expand our mobile launch capacity and not be hampered. The russians have the TOPOL mobile being deployed, and they may love this “treaty”.


56 posted on 12/24/2010 7:41:27 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: macquire

I just realized what Obama really is: the anti-Reagan.


57 posted on 12/24/2010 10:35:36 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: screaminsunshine
[Russia is checking with Obama to confirm that he lied to the Republican RINOS that the treaty will not stop our missile defense program.]

You can't cash lies at the bank. I think it's more like diverting federal money to these states or the midnight hand off of a briefcase of cash in the parking garage.

58 posted on 12/24/2010 11:52:26 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: dfwgator
Vlad the Impaler video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5z5UAtCxgE

59 posted on 12/25/2010 1:38:18 AM PST by spokeshave (Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
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To: CutePuppy
"Thirdly, the agreement does not touch upon non-nuclear forces, the development of which may minimize Russia's possession of strategic arms. It goes about cruise missiles - hypersonic arms, first and foremost. Hypersonic missiles will make it possible to solve the goals, for which nuclear arms were built, albeit without the use of nuclear arms. A greater number of carriers, which Russia achieved, will not play any role at all. Hypersonic missiles with the range of 5,000 kilometers and flight speed of 3 kilometers per second will be capable of striking enemy's targets in mere minutes. The enemy will not even have time to make any decisions. Russia does not have such weapons, because all those programs were scrapped during Yeltsin's presidency. Russia lags far behind the United States at this point.

It's interesting that they would bring this up about the hypersonic cruise missile part and its supposed cancellation. Last I remember the Russians where still working in this area and already based on their strategic outlook. Hell they may already have something. I smell some misdirection going on here.
60 posted on 12/25/2010 6:19:19 AM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: macquire
If the Ruskies wait until the new members of the Senate are conformed we should hold a "re-vote" to unvalidate the previous vote....saying it was predicated on immediate acceptance by Russia.

Hopefully McConnell has the guts to give this run!!

61 posted on 12/25/2010 3:28:22 PM PST by HardStarboard (I'm sure George and Dick had quiet smiles while watching the election results!)
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To: DarkWaters
I smell some misdirection going on here.

Not without foundation - the interview was by Pravda (though unlike NY Times, they have much more open forum for wide range of views) with the [ostensibly paranoid] Russian military expert.

However, he is correct that despite having certain successes (e.g, Sukhoi 4G/5G fighters program) overall, in the pace of their developments, Russia has lagged far behind not only the U.S. but is also being overtaken by the Chinese, who successfully clone / "shan-zhai" some of the better ideas of Russian and U.S. weapons programs.

Hell they may already have something.

They have had big problems with their delivery systems. Bulava-30 / SS-NX-32 has had only a couple of successful trials in the span of last five years and will be unreliable if / when actually deployed (with correspondingly great fanfare, I am sure) in relatively small numbers. In either case, they have no illusions about winning a direct confrontation with the [even weakened by her own government] U.S., and this is not something one supplies to the proxies (like Iran, Venezuela, formerly Cuba etc.)

All in all, it gives both sides another excuse / incentive to recycle and sell / purchase the material in the old warheads while doing nothing to preclude the U.S. developing and deploying the new missile defense systems - that's where Republicans played important role.

Ramifications here are mostly political, not defense-related - unnecessary "win" for Obama, singles out and raises importance of Russia as if they still matter as a direct and the only (by nature of bilateral agreement) military opponent while ignoring the "new world order" where rogue regimes are "independent" players.

62 posted on 12/25/2010 4:37:13 PM PST by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: macquire
Another kick in the nuts for Barack Chamberlain.
63 posted on 12/25/2010 5:47:01 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Thank You Rush
Gee whiz! Our legislators can’t even read a bill ONCE.

Apparently, the Russian legislators think more of their country than ours.

64 posted on 12/26/2010 2:05:24 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: screaminsunshine; RoadTest

Has there ever been made a survey questionnaire just among the military personnel themselves, or is it just POLITICAL social engineering for gays as usual???


65 posted on 12/27/2010 6:32:47 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: EGPWS; montyspython
Reincarnate.

Picture of Jimmy looks like Robert Kennedy's twin brother???

66 posted on 12/27/2010 6:38:55 AM PST by danamco (")
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To: ScottinVA

Russians are and always have been realists, not idealists. It’s how they’ve lasted so long, same as the Chinese. Besides, like the Chinese, the Russians are a Byzantine culture and smile in the light and dance in the dark. Their politicians play politics like chess with a mixture of Twister (do you remember that game?) and it takes a lot of work to successfully penetrate Russian culture and understand it fully, much like China.

Russians, before they agree to anything, buy time and work like fiends to create a backup plan or some sort of fail safe to go to if they change their minds or to get themselves out of it if they realize it won’t work in their favor.


67 posted on 12/27/2010 10:31:44 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: macquire

Can our new pro-American congress un-ratify it before the Russians do their part?


68 posted on 12/27/2010 11:59:15 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, what are you hiding? Release your Birth Certificate!)
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To: FreeAtlanta; macquire
Never mind, it is the Senate and the commies still will control it in January.

I hope 2012 is a Senatorial blow out. I don't know how demoncrats control the senate anyhow. If most states support Republican presidents, then the majority of the Senate should be republican due to each state only having 2... even the commie heavy California and New York.

69 posted on 12/27/2010 12:01:53 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, what are you hiding? Release your Birth Certificate!)
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To: dfwgator

Someone should p’shop Obama’s face in the second pic.


70 posted on 12/28/2010 2:15:52 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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