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Posted on 12/26/2010 5:16:19 PM PST by mylife
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The little rig described is great for conceal on the body.
My experience however is that the recoil of airlights scares the hell out of women.
Mrs Ticks mileage may vary.
>> So get a Smith Airweight. It is what the Taurus is modeled after anyway.
Thanks for the tip; I’ll look into it.
You are right. You can hold it at the breakpoint when shooting at the range.
I would personally like to have a hammer and have SA/DA option.
I mean, YOU did indeed!! lol...
Several friends (and internet info sites) have strongly suggested that before firing the first round, a Mosin should be taken to a good gunsmith, to examine for safety, clean thoroughly, check headspace, etc. That sure seems to make sense, but I don't have a feel for what would be a reasonable fee for that service. Any ideas of a fair price range?
Also, any suggestions for ammo? I see Russian, Czech, Albanian, and God knows what all else among the milsurp stuff, as well as more modern non-corrosive stuff, and could use some help navigating the maze. I would primarily be punching holes in paper.
I have the Smith 360 PD and it is a pleasure to carry at barely 12 oz empty. But it kicks with only a .38 special.
I much prefer the baby Glock.
All I had was a chicken fried steak with all the fixens and a load of beer.
Poor Poor pitiful me...
>> Better if she actually shot it before buying.
Yeah, the more I think about it I just have to get the wheels turning and figure out how to make that happen.
>> All the training vids I’ve seen say that the worst place for a woman to pack the heat is in a purse
I can see the logic in that... and yet I can pretty much guarantee that that is where hers will end up. I guess I figure a) better in the purse than not at all, and b) whatever serves to get her (and me!) motivated to get off our butts and get a couple sidearms and some training will be a GOOD thing.
Thanks for your insights.
I know what you meant LoL
The 638 has a shrouded hammer, so you do get sa/da.
Hey Tick, where are you at? Austin area, Dallas, Houston? Just wondering cause I might be able to help out. I’m in the Pflugerville metroplex thing.
Non shrouded would not bother me.
I have the 1390 ( or is it the 9013? ) its a heavy beast, the one thats like 5’long. I shoot Winchester through mine, its dead nuts spot on. 100 bucks at Cabela’s
I had problems with the bolt until I put it up on the shed roof in the Texas summer heat and cleaned it real good.. They usually have a ton of cosmoline in ‘em... Read: Heat them up and clean soon after, I just use solar power...
Sweet big bore... hug her good ‘cause she will show you some love!
Chicken fried steak would have worked too!
It weren’t bad!
Hit the spot on a cold azz December day.
Consider an 8mm mauser, but I agree with waterhill, just cook the cosmoline out, clean it and have fun.
Placing the metal parts in a black plastic bag in summer will melt any cosmoline away.
I use brake cleaner to spray out the tight spots.
a go-no go-field gauge will quickly determine correct headspace.
Ammunition 7.62x54r - for now is pretty cheap. The “spam cans” (440 rounds) are still less than $100.00.
jg sales, ctd, and aim surplus all have pretty decent ammunition prices. Popular ammo terms - “Light ball”=147gr, “Heavy ball”=180gr.
If you can, try to get a Finnish Mosin - typically more accurate than the standard 91/30s.
for more information.
Wolf, Winchester, and PRVI, and a few others all make modern (non-corrosive) ammunition in this caliber.
Lots of fun, big noise, big recoil, and big muzzle flash!
I have an 113 year old Finn capture.
Still works great
Generally, if the serial number on the bolt matches the serial number on the receiver, there usually is no need to have the headspace checked (If you're worried about it, just fire it from the hip the first couple of times.)
Cleaning the cosmoline out of them is a pain in the rear. To get the chamber clean and to make the bolt work easier, there are videos on the internet that show a few cleaning techniques. I used a 20 gauge shotgun wire brush and a variable speed drill with Hoppes to clean mine out good. Made a huge difference.
If you clean your weapon after returning from the range religiously, there is no need to worry about corrosive ammo. I've fired hundreds and hundreds of surplus Chech, Yugo, Slav, Polish, and Russian through mine. I've never experienced a single ammo problem.
My rifle with all standard issue accessories only set me back $80 on sale at Dunhams.
Thanks for the info FRiends!
The oversized brush on the drill motor is an excellent hint to make the bolt work mo better.
Good info. Thanks very much!
>> I have the Smith 360 PD
I found it on the S&W site. That’s a nice handgun. Kind of spendy though.
>> I much prefer the baby Glock.
Well, right or wrong we’re leaning towards a revolver for her.
I’m thinking about a Glock for me though. Not sure which model. I may carry it some, but mostly around my own work and property, and in my vehicle. I don’t feel the need to start with the absolute smallest gun, if I have to trade away other features (i.e. capacity) to get small size. Recommendations as to model? As far as caliber I’m leaning towards 9mm.
Yep. First couple of times I took it out, I found that I needed to really smack the bolt to get it open (almost needed a 2 x 4).
I try to stay away from the painted steel case ammo. That helps also.
Rugged simplicity endures.
You are right about the bolt.
I always blamed it on the steel case, but brass does the same thing.
And by golly sometimes that is all you need!
>> So get a Smith Airweight. It is what the Taurus is modeled after anyway.
Interesting suggestion. 15oz... heavier than the 360PD or Taurus 85M but lighter than a similar stainless .38.
The one in your photo has a black finish but the S&W website only lists a silver matte.
How well could I expect that aluminum alloy frame to hold up compared to a titanium frame?
It’s a little more $$$ than the Taurus but not *that* much more.
Tick, before you jump into a Glock, look at the XD models. Might be better for someone that is not an experienced veteran.
Mine is about 15 years old and has had a lot of use.
I never get tired of looking at what a great job you did with that!
Oh and, 50 is right about the CZ. You should look into those also. CZ’s are excellent hand guns. Wish I had one.
Titanium is much much stronger and it is lighter
Titanium is remarkable stuff.
Yes, 91/30 what I meant...
Its a beast...
The two most useful properties of the metal form are corrosion resistance and the highest strength-to-weight ratio of any metal. In its unalloyed condition, titanium is as strong as some steels, but 45% lighter
Titanium is superior to aluminum alloys
Believe me, if we had significant Titanium deposits in the USA we would be using Titanium for a wide array of applications.
Have you seen the MythBuster episode where they make a working cannon out of duct tape? Awesome little howitzer firing an eighteen pound ball.
>> XD models. Might be better for someone that is not an experienced veteran.
That certainly describes me, Dave.
Better in what way? Reliability, ease of use, durability, ???
What model would you recommend?
>> Have you seen the MythBuster episode where they make a working cannon out of duct tape?
LOL! I saw that this weekend. I thought for SURE that barrel was going to pop, especially after having to force the ball in! It was a pretty tight fit.
Red Green would be proud.
The Submarine fleet had this tape called E.B. green *electric boat*
The stuff was meaner than cat ****!
People claim it has held at test depths LoL
It might prove to be the best $80.00 you’ve ever spent. :)
Even if you NEVER shoot it - it looks GREAT over a fireplace mantle.
Really though, it’s much more fun to shoot.
Also, if the bolt DOES bind up on ejection, pull back on the safety screw to cock the bolt. That way when you work the handle, all the force is working to twist the bolt open, and none of it is going towards cocking the bolt.
Then follow with a short drill/brush session as described earlier.
Final word of caution: Mosins have a tendency to multiply over time.
>> If you’re looking for a great 9mm... check out my rig. A CZ 82
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’d have to locate a used one, right? Or are they available “off the shelf”?
You have Freep mail
Thanks, but you helped too. And the gunsmith. And Google. ;)
CZ 82s are milsurplus used, but they are readily available
Cz 83s can be had new but use the .380 cartridge vice the 9x 18 makarov. And the cost is about double that of the Cz 82.
Well, all I know is you have the finest Cz 82 around now!