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Heart-stopping! Medics limit CPR amid 911 backlog
nypost.com ^ | Dec. 28, 2010 | LARRY CELONA, SERGEY KADINSKY and LEONARD GREENE

Posted on 12/28/2010 7:11:33 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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1 posted on 12/28/2010 7:11:36 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I have a hard time getting upset over this....sounds like triage.


2 posted on 12/28/2010 7:14:00 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

New York: it’s a great place to die.


3 posted on 12/28/2010 7:14:15 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last. The only reasonable response to jihad is Crusade.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama Care Begins


4 posted on 12/28/2010 7:14:48 PM PST by Core_Conservative (No longer a Republican - A Proud Constitutional Conservative)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I can’t imagine performing CPR for an hour.


5 posted on 12/28/2010 7:14:55 PM PST by Eaker (In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity. Albert Einstein)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Obama Care Begins


6 posted on 12/28/2010 7:14:55 PM PST by Core_Conservative (No longer a Republican - A Proud Constitutional Conservative)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Sounds like a “DEATH PANEL” to me


7 posted on 12/28/2010 7:20:04 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: Repeat Offender

Anyone who is getting upset over this needs to volunteer their services.


8 posted on 12/28/2010 7:21:49 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Some of my friends wondered why I got so upset when O said we could absorb another 9-11. They don’t understand that in an emergency, all bets are off. Fire-Rescue can only do what they can do. If this occurred with a heavy snow, can you imagine what would happen with another attack of sorts? Just a thought.


9 posted on 12/28/2010 7:23:07 PM PST by momtothree
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Patrick Bahnken, head of the paramedics and EMT union

I bet if the didn't have such nonsense as an "EMT union," they could hire, oh gee I don't know more EMTs?

10 posted on 12/28/2010 7:26:31 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Eaker

Statistically, the only hearts that really re-start are cold water drownings, children, and witnessed MI’s with EARLY CPR. In my experience, in almost every other case, CPR only prolongs death.


11 posted on 12/28/2010 7:27:53 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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Couldn’t loved ones take over? I mean, once the 20 minutes had passed, someone could be trained to do the basics, couldn’t they?

Besides, how many people revive after an hour? What are the possibilities of making it after that long?


12 posted on 12/28/2010 7:30:12 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Core_Conservative
Obama Care Begins

Yep, and the online shills are tripping over themselves to applaud it, selling out their own country literally into death for a paycheck and a hope that their loyalty will mean they get eaten last.

Their traitorous, cowardly, stupidity is revolting.

13 posted on 12/28/2010 7:32:49 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Repeat Offender

Exactly. If after 20 minutes the person isn’t viable enough to transport, then move on to someone who could survive.


14 posted on 12/28/2010 7:33:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Repeat Offender
I have a hard time getting upset over this....sounds like triage.

In real life, in only 5-10% of cases does CPR actually save the patient's life. This drops to under 2% if it's a case of EMTs doing CPR on people whose hearts were stopped for some unknown time before EMTs arrived. EMTs busy doing CPR on people unlikely to survive are unavailable to save people who WOULD survive if treated.

15 posted on 12/28/2010 7:33:21 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Last year’s February snowstorm in Pittsburgh resulted in deaths of patients who could not be reached by EMS. Our snowfall was significantly less & the roads simply were not maintained so it was inexcusable IMHO. I’m not sure about the NYC situation - same thing maybe?

In any event, 20 minutes of CPR is reasonable. If the patient dosent respond after that, they’re not gonna.


16 posted on 12/28/2010 7:34:01 PM PST by surroundedbyblue
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To: boop

I am grateful to be one of those statistics. De-fibbed twice by EMTs in the ambulance after an MI. That was nearly 19 years ago, and I’ve been living a normal life ever since.


17 posted on 12/28/2010 7:37:21 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: boop

I know.

My point was that CPR is physically exerting if performed properly.

An hour is a damn long time.


18 posted on 12/28/2010 7:38:40 PM PST by Eaker (In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity. Albert Einstein)
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To: boop
In my experience, in almost every other case, CPR only prolongs death.

BINGO! We get patients in the ER regularly who were down an unknown length of time, but due the fear of law suits, EMS codes 'em an heads to the ER. The docs do just enough to document death to prevent suits. Total waste of resources, especially in a crisis situation.

19 posted on 12/28/2010 7:40:29 PM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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It's called triage.

You have to do it when your manpower is dwarfed by the emergency.

Nothing political or evil about it. The idea is to save the most people possible.

20 posted on 12/28/2010 7:42:11 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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