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Ohioans' exodus to Texas is Lone Star State's gain
DallasMorningNews ^ | 01/02/2011 | JIM LANDERS

Posted on 01/02/2011 9:30:31 AM PST by devane617

LORDSTOWN, Ohio – Thousands of the men and women here in northeast Ohio build cars. Their fathers made steel. Home was Youngstown, a city of factories filled with neighborhoods of immigrants from Europe and the American South.

Today, however, most of these families have left. "I have three kids, and I don't see much future for them here," said Kevin Scott, a 39-year-old with Magna Exteriors and Interiors who installs car seats at GM's giant Lordstown auto plant. His children likely will be forced to move on – as tens of thousands of Ohioans have to Texas.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Ohio; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: oh; ohio; texas; tx
At least two of my neighbors are from Ohio. WELCOME To Texas!!!!
1 posted on 01/02/2011 9:30:34 AM PST by devane617
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To: devane617

I guess they will have to raise taxes on those left behind to see them through in 2011.


2 posted on 01/02/2011 9:33:11 AM PST by bikerman (Where Has My America Gone?)
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To: devane617

Texans need to constantly remind them WHY they had to move to Texas and make sure they get their political minds right.


3 posted on 01/02/2011 9:34:41 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("The Dems have a 'war room' for everything but war..." - Dennis Miller)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Exactly!!!! We do not want another Florida....


4 posted on 01/02/2011 9:35:42 AM PST by devane617 (NEVER feed your cats canned Tuna fish. Mercury poisoning.)
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To: devane617

So long as they leave their left-voting ways in Ohio, I’d be all for them going to Texas.

That’s been the problem where I live (NC). It seems many of the people that move here from the Blue States have amnesia as to what got them to move.


5 posted on 01/02/2011 9:36:19 AM PST by RangerM (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel. - Robert Frost.)
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To: devane617

As long as they leave their love of Socialism and Unions in Ohio, Welcome to Texas! The football capital of the world.


6 posted on 01/02/2011 9:38:06 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: RangerM
That’s been the problem where I live (NC). It seems many of the people that move here from the Blue States have amnesia as to what got them to move.
You can't cure STUPID!
7 posted on 01/02/2011 9:40:50 AM PST by Plumres
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To: RangerM

Right you are. That’s what worries me too...(being from Texas). Welcome one and all (except SOUTH of the border) but if you’re a liberal, don’t bring those views to Texas. BTW, John Kasich hasn’t even been sworn in yet....give the guy a chance Ohioans.


8 posted on 01/02/2011 9:40:57 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: devane617

oh goody...
Let’s hope they don’t bring their damnyankee entitlement mentalities with them.

I don’t ever want to hear another “Here’s how we did things up North” story. If the North was so friggin great, they wouldn’t be coming here.


9 posted on 01/02/2011 9:42:32 AM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: devane617

Or Arizona. Our problem is all of the “snowbirds” who usually vote for DemocRATS show up here just in time for our elections. They vote absentee in their home states and vote here also. It really screws up our state. Arizona is a very conservative state although the election result normally don’t reflect that due to the influx of lefties around election time.


10 posted on 01/02/2011 9:42:49 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("The Dems have a 'war room' for everything but war..." - Dennis Miller)
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To: devane617
This reminds me of the many Europeans who moved to the US in the late 1800’s in order to leave behind the poverty in their home countries caused mainly by authoritarian governments. Too many of them came with authoritarian socialist ideals they could not wait to implement in the US. We had a great free enterprise country and political freedom and they used that political freedom to slowly impose the welfare state on the US.
11 posted on 01/02/2011 9:45:24 AM PST by brydic1
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To: RangerM

“It seems many of the people that move here from the Blue States have amnesia”

It’s not amnesia, it’s a fundamental character defect in most.


12 posted on 01/02/2011 9:46:14 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: Redbob

I’m a Damnyankee who cashed in my yankee money and moved south.
Glad I did.


13 posted on 01/02/2011 9:47:33 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Go Hawks !)
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To: devane617

At our border we need check point.

Pull all foreign plated vehicles over and ask the following questions:

1. Did you hope and change things?
2. Are you or have you ever been part of a communist organization like the UAW, teachers union, or other radical organizations advocating the overthrow of our government?
3. Are you “green, ecological, regenerative, sustainable, organic, all natural or bio degradable?”
4. How many fingers am I holding up, if they answer “fo” they’re from LA and will suck off our welfare system and break into our homes, living in FEMA trailers for eternity.
5. Inspect vehicle for stickers that say things like “coexist, rainbow pride, yes we did.....” immediate rejection!
6. Ask them if they see an abortion as a constitutional right but bearing arms a privilege reserved only for the elite and government?
7. Ask them how many baby momma’s it takes before you max out on child payments as a percent of your income. If they know the answer, immediate rejection.
........


14 posted on 01/02/2011 9:48:50 AM PST by Red6
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To: devane617

Good luck with that. Ask people in SC & NC about NJ and NY transplants. Or ask NM, ID, AZ, UT residents about Calif scum invading.

You will get all this union trash in TX. They fouled their nest in Ohio being union scum.


15 posted on 01/02/2011 9:50:00 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: devane617

Folks, don’t worry about the gang from Lordstown. I know them well. They comprised a huge segment of my customer base during the half-dozen years I spent in the boat business.

A fingernail sketch:

They are lefties only so far as the union goes, and not even that far. It extends no further than this, politically. Trust me.

These are what we used to call “Reagan Democrats.” Salt of the earth, hardworking, God-fearing folks. They are old-fashioned enough to look down at the “Obama welfare class.” Don’t be surprised when you hear them begin a sentence by saying “You do what you want, but no member of MY family has....” They are very proud. And serious family people.

They are fierce hunters, and enthusiastic fishermen. And yes, they believe in the 2nd Amendment. And the death penalty. These are the kind of folks who voted Democrat because their Dad, and their Grandad did.

This is the only “cultural training” you might have to do. Remind them that that was then, and this is now. And that this IS Texas, after all.

I predict that no bunch will adopt the “Don’t Mess With Texas” mentality faster than this bunch. Lucky you.

And prolly 90% of them will vote for Sarah, btw.


16 posted on 01/02/2011 9:52:46 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: devane617; SC Swamp Fox; upchuck; visualops; TheStickman; 4everontheRight; Tatze; kjenerette; ...
At least two of my neighbors are from Ohio. WELCOME To Texas!!!!

Hope they vote for conservatives!

Hubby and I spent some time last June scouting out coastal South Carolina (Charleston / Mount Pleasant area) as a possible place to live "someday". We met LOTS of Ohioans who had recently settled in SC, mostly young people. It was incredible... seems like everyone we bumped into had just arrived from Ohio...

17 posted on 01/02/2011 9:57:45 AM PST by nutmeg (The 111th Congress: Worst. Congress. Ever.)
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To: devane617
He says Texas should want to help Dayton and other Ohio cities get back on their feet. "The reason people in Dallas should care is that we're all in this together in a global economy," he said. "We in the United States, as a community, need to be strong together to compete with the world."

Just gag me... I hope this guy isn't migrating to Texas.

18 posted on 01/02/2011 9:59:13 AM PST by Bearshouse
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To: Bearshouse

A similar migration from the rust belt to Texas, especially Houston, was spurred by the Jimmah Catah reign.


19 posted on 01/02/2011 10:07:27 AM PST by MisterArtery
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Our problem is all of the “snowbirds” who usually vote for DemocRATS show up here just in time for our elections. They vote absentee in their home states and vote here also. It really screws up our state.

Outrageous! How do they get away with this??

20 posted on 01/02/2011 10:08:34 AM PST by nutmeg (The 111th Congress: Worst. Congress. Ever.)
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To: Bearshouse
He says Texas should want to help Dayton and other Ohio cities get back on their feet.

Why? You made your bed with the unions and socialists, NOW SLEEP IN IT!

21 posted on 01/02/2011 10:09:26 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Exactly, if they’re coming to find freedom and work hard, they are welcome. However, remember that you left your old ‘failed’ state because of left-leaning politics to come to a ‘successful’ states that utilizes right-leaning politics. Don’t bring your failed politics.


22 posted on 01/02/2011 10:11:18 AM PST by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: nutmeg

Nobody is checking. The SoS offices proudly talk about the “number of votes” cast. They don’t care who is casting the ballots. It just looks nice if the numbers are large. I heard a story during the last election about a guy who had received three ballots. He was kind enough to give one of the “extra” ballots to a friend who told us about it.


23 posted on 01/02/2011 10:18:03 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("The Dems have a 'war room' for everything but war..." - Dennis Miller)
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To: nutmeg

They get away with it the same way folks from NY/NJ get away with voting at home and in FL. They just DO it, and absurd as it is in this tech age, there seems to be no cross checking from state to state.

I moved several times in a 5 year period, each time changing registration. Only VA notified my former state (CA) of the change of voter registration. I suspect I am still voting in Chicago.


24 posted on 01/02/2011 10:18:14 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: devane617

Y’all are probably going to need a reeducation camp at the borders. They’ll say anything but they’ll vote Dem. Just my sad humble opinion.


25 posted on 01/02/2011 10:29:24 AM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: devane617

Good article.


26 posted on 01/02/2011 10:30:35 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: nutmeg
Thank you for ping. The political problem with migration into SC from Up East or the Rust Belt, is that these folks tend to bring their politics with them. South Carolina is slowly turning a political shade of purple because of this. Democrats Obama in 2008 and Sheehan (gov race)in 2010 polled better than expected. Texas may well be last conservative bastion state in the Union in a few years, and even that may change due to Hispanic migration. Demographics are a bear.
27 posted on 01/02/2011 10:32:25 AM PST by buckalfa (Confused and Bewildered With a Glass Half Empty)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; EDINVA
Nobody is checking. The SoS offices proudly talk about the “number of votes” cast. They don’t care who is casting the ballots. It just looks nice if the numbers are large. I heard a story during the last election about a guy who had received three ballots. He was kind enough to give one of the “extra” ballots to a friend who told us about it.

They get away with it the same way folks from NY/NJ get away with voting at home and in FL. They just DO it, and absurd as it is in this tech age, there seems to be no cross checking from state to state.

I moved several times in a 5 year period, each time changing registration. Only VA notified my former state (CA) of the change of voter registration. I suspect I am still voting in Chicago.

Absolutely incredible. The Tea Party should make voter fraud a major part of their agenda, in addition to taxes, spending, term limits, etc. and hold GOP members of Congress feet to the fire. Voter fraud has GOT to be stopped or at least severely curtailed somehow...

FWIW, here in Connecticut we have to show a valid photo ID (usually a drivers' license) before we can vote, yet five miles away in Massachusetts, it's a voter free-for-all from what I hear - no ID required.

28 posted on 01/02/2011 10:32:43 AM PST by nutmeg (The 111th Congress: Worst. Congress. Ever.)
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To: Bearshouse

Exactly. I live in Dallas and we have plenty to worry about here. Sure it’s better than Dayton, only because we haven’t effed it up yet, but it’s not as good as it used to be. We are fighting the battle against Socialism here also, so for those in the Rust Belt, save yourselves. If do you decide to come here, leave your Socialist ideas at home. If you want to eventually help Dayton or Cleveland or Detroit, Texas is your last, best hope.


29 posted on 01/02/2011 10:44:59 AM PST by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Republic of Texas

I live in Plano, and I have a feeling with the current poor economy nationwide relative to the prosperous economy here in Texas we are in the midst of a mass influx of people from the Rust-Belt—similar to what happened during the boom days up north when the auto industry attracted people from the south by the tens of thousands, just in reverse.


30 posted on 01/02/2011 11:11:39 AM PST by devane617 (NEVER feed your cats canned Tuna fish. Mercury poisoning.)
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To: devane617
"WELCOME To Texas!!!! "

This is not good news for Texas, if the newcomers try to turn Texas into another Youngstown.

31 posted on 01/02/2011 11:39:13 AM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: nutmeg

We’ve had the photo ID requirement in VA since (I think) George Allen was governor. Long time. Dems in the state legislature fought it like crazy. And lost.

Last year I had to renew my VA driver’s license ... I’d let it lapse by 2 weeks, and guess what? To get a new one issued, I had to provide a certified copy of my birth certificate, my marriage license and other docs (can’t remember which) firmly establishing that I am who I claim to be and that I am legally living in VA, where I claim to be living in VA, and have a right to a VA driver’s license. Then, they process it and eventually issue a driver’s license (maybe 2-3 weeks. I’m glad they take all those precautions but warn folks NOT to let their current driver’s license expire without renewing.


32 posted on 01/02/2011 11:44:58 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Redbob
their damnyankee entitlement mentalities with them

Entitlements ain't Yankee.....

.....They are European mentalities.

Just because you were born North of the Mason-Dixon Line doesn't mean you aren't of the right mind.

Ohio was once a great Capitalist state. The Unions and European tendencies brought us down.

33 posted on 01/02/2011 11:59:47 AM PST by SteamShovel (Beware the RINO-VIRUS...It will kill the TEA Party movement.)
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To: devane617
The Lordstown plant is right on the Ohio Turnpike, just west of Exit 218 where I80 splits with I76, so it has been a landmark to me for many years. You can see it in Google Street view, and I notice there is link to the UAW local there. Click on that for an eyeful of the UAW dreamworld.
34 posted on 01/02/2011 12:16:01 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Frantzie

[Ask people in SC...]

Being a resident of SC I can tell you this, when I came here after escaping from NY in ‘76 this state was a rock solid Conservative.

As time went by, the liberals who voted for politicians who raised their taxes decided to migrate south to avoid paying them. Now that they live here they will vote for liberals again, who will raise taxes.

Sooner or later the migrating liberal slime from the north are going to run out of states to infect, in the mean time, all we can do is examine carefully, on the local level, who we send to Washington.

Lindsay Graham counted on the slime migration and they came through for him.


35 posted on 01/02/2011 1:08:45 PM PST by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: devane617

Ah hope y’all told them yankee’s ‘bout our fahr aintz.


36 posted on 01/02/2011 1:45:07 PM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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To: nutmeg

Again, let’s hope they are conservative. The Low Country has too many Dems as it is.


37 posted on 01/03/2011 3:47:13 AM PST by visualops (Proud Air Force Mom)
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To: devane617

Problem is Obama and his thugs at EPA have declared war on us (Texas) by enacting (pseudolegislating) GHG rules. Don’t get too cozy.


38 posted on 01/03/2011 3:50:59 AM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: visualops
Perhaps there should be an entrance exam to see if people are liberals or not. And a background check. Plus, a hefty security deposit, forfieted on their first democrat or RINO vote.

I met a lady at a Tea Party last year that had recently moved to Tennessee from the northeast. Somehow, she and I got on the discussion of taxes. She was upset that Tennessee charged sales tax on groceries, and thought that there should be an income tax instead. I told her plainly that I originally came from Ohio and that when there, there was about a 5% income tax, a stiff sales tax, and a property tax that was TRIPLE what it was in Tennessee. I let her know that I was saving AT LEAST $5000 a year living here in taxes alone. Then I told her that if they added an income tax, they would not lower the others - that it would be just another tool for government to steal the fruit of our labor. I think that she understood.

Dang yankees.

39 posted on 01/03/2011 4:02:59 AM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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To: nutmeg; FlingWingFlyer
Our problem is all of the “snowbirds” who usually vote for DemocRATS show up here just in time for our elections. They vote absentee in their home states and vote here also. It really screws up our state.

Outrageous! How do they get away with this??

The same is true in many colleges. The Lefties stay registered at home and vote absentee. They also reregister in their college communities and vote in person there. The Left has always been a minority with unjustified influence. That is on way they do it, voter fraud.

40 posted on 01/03/2011 7:28:39 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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