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Detroit in ruins
The Guardian ^ | January 2, 2011 | Yves Marchand and Romain Meffre

Posted on 01/02/2011 9:37:18 AM PST by hcmama

Yves Marchand and Romain Meffre's extraordinary photographs documenting the dramatic decline of a major American city

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: corruption; democrats; detroit; fail; gloriesofsocialism; unioncity; unions; wagesofliberalism
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To: hcmama
Amazing look at what Detroit once was and what it is today.

And yet... I was there last summer visiting a couple of suburbs just miles away where I lived in the 50s. Neither more than middle-class then, they're obviously a bit wealthier now -- even the cookie-cutter houses I remember from one then-new mass development have been cared for, improved and differentiated.

151 posted on 01/02/2011 1:36:44 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: ladyvet

Does seem to be a prime area for salvaged material.


152 posted on 01/02/2011 1:41:01 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (Liberals are educated above their level of intelligence.. Thanks Sr. Angelica)
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To: GOPsterinMA
No I didn't strip them myself. The guy I bought them from had a big tank full of stripper and he just submerged the entire door. They were all a few inches larger that my doorways so the carpenter trimmed them off nice and even, otherwise they would have been ragged looking. I have 2 doors that have etched glass in the top. They look great!
153 posted on 01/02/2011 1:41:38 PM PST by Ditter
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To: hcmama

Comerica Bank moved its headquarters to Dallas in 2007 after 158 years in Detroit. One has to wonder when General Motors and other remaining Detroit businesses will be making a similar move. Very sad situation for a great city.


154 posted on 01/02/2011 1:42:50 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: GOPsterinMA
In all seriousness, I see a potential opportunity here: Sell off the work work, windows, doors, chandeliers, etc. Turn Detroit into a huge salvage yard.

Assuming you did get permission, your cost basis as a result of extortion, ransoms, armored convoys, 360 security, combat pay, insurance, and care for your wounded ON TOP OF salvage costs would make profitability an impossibility.

More likely however, in all seriousness, your request to do this work would be turned into a racial issue by the powers-that-be in Detriot and the MSM.

Your resources would be better spent raising the Titanic and making her seaworthy once again.

155 posted on 01/02/2011 1:44:04 PM PST by AngryJawa (Obama's Success is America's Failure)
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To: AngryJawa

BBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You’re awesome!!!


156 posted on 01/02/2011 1:48:14 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (RomneyCare is Mitt`s Chappaquiddick)
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To: hcmama

Not everyone is fit for self-rule. Maybe there should be a rule that says, “If you can’t feed, clothe and shelter yourself, you should not have any part in selecting leaders for yourself or others.”


157 posted on 01/02/2011 1:54:30 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: Ditter

“The guy I bought them from had a big tank full of stripper and he just submerged the entire door.”

CHEATER!!! :)

That’s awesome! Enjoy!!!


158 posted on 01/02/2011 1:58:44 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (RomneyCare is Mitt`s Chappaquiddick)
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To: hcmama

Federal “urban renewal” or “affordable housing” funds should no longer go to such former “cities”. The money would be better spent helping residents escape/migrate to the areas with the lowest unemployment rates, best business climates, lowest taxes, most naturally affordable housing markets, etc - none of which would be Liberal run cities.


159 posted on 01/02/2011 1:58:48 PM PST by Wuli
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To: nathanbedford
It was Frederick Douglass, I believe, who said something like, "The black man has his freedom. Now, it is up to the white man to leave us alone for a hundred years...and let us see what we can do with it."

But the left oouldn't keep their meddling hands off -- their voters wanting to "do good", their leaders wanting to command the votes of a dependent class.

To tell the truth, I don't believe Bull Connor would've wanted for the blacks what has been visited upon them by the liberals.

160 posted on 01/02/2011 2:01:17 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Bobalu; LibreOuMort
Photobucket I lived here in red house the early 60s. The '67 riots reached to within a mile of here. The only difference then and now is the tall oak is gone. The other houses were plain white then. This neighborhood has not only been well-tended, it's been improved.

Photobucket This is about 2 miles further out. In the mid-late 50s it was a brand-new development of cheaply-built cookie-cutter single-family homes, each with a sapling in the middle of the front yard, for a newly-prosperous middle class. I can't tell which one I lived in, and it might not even be in this picture. It's still not fancy, but these 50 - 60 year old houses are not falling apart.

What a contrast to nearby Detroit. *Something* made a huge difference.

161 posted on 01/02/2011 2:01:59 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: j_tull

That’s an excellent point that I had not considered. Yuk!


162 posted on 01/02/2011 2:05:30 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: Tax-chick
I don't understand why the furniture and fixtures in these places have not been salvaged. I want the chairs from the Presbyterian Church!

People (and institutions and corporations) just walked away from them when either a.) the taxes became too burdensome and/or b.) city services (police, fire) collapsed.

There was no market within the county for the fixtures which were left behind.

163 posted on 01/02/2011 2:05:58 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: sionnsar

What city are these houses located in? They could be in many old neighborhoods in Houston.


164 posted on 01/02/2011 2:07:25 PM PST by Ditter
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To: okie01

Outside the county, then, or outside the country. The picture book has been out for some time - I’ve seen the images on FR before. Fine enough pieces, or large enough quantities, would make the cost of dismantling and transportation reasonable.

Others up the thread, however, have suggested reasons why it’s all still sitting there ...


165 posted on 01/02/2011 2:10:28 PM PST by Tax-chick (The gifts we have, we are given to share.)
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To: Peter W. Kessler

They already have. Red Dawn II was shot in Detroit.


166 posted on 01/02/2011 2:17:33 PM PST by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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To: Tax-chick
Fine enough pieces, or large enough quantities, would make the cost of dismantling and transportation reasonable.

My guess: All of those places were seized and are now owned by the county or city -- for non-payment of taxes.

To remove anything from those derelict buildings would make one subject to arrest and a probable felony charge.

And the city/county doesn't have the presence of mind (or the ability) to organize a "garage sale"...

167 posted on 01/02/2011 2:26:22 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Liz

Who gonna collect mah welfare?

Pay fo my Cadillac?

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOh Juuuuuuudge!!


168 posted on 01/02/2011 2:28:47 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker
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To: Ditter

Pleasant Ridge/Ferndale and Clawson.


169 posted on 01/02/2011 2:37:07 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Course, Mommy has $$$$$ of earmarks stashed offshore........ question is whether she will share it with the Bottomless Pit——sonny boy Kwame.


170 posted on 01/02/2011 2:42:37 PM PST by Liz (There's a new definition of bipartisanship in Washington -- it's called "former member.")
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To: kearnyirish2

I can probably build an army to protect my farm (plenty of available manpower), unfortunately I would have to look into serious cash crop (opium) to make this farm profitable. It would end up looking like the farms in Cambodia.


171 posted on 01/02/2011 2:51:18 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: hcmama

The solution to all of our urban problems.


172 posted on 01/02/2011 4:20:27 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: castlegreyskull

Why not? Detroit looks like Phnom Penh post-Killing Fields.


173 posted on 01/02/2011 4:51:17 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: grellis

Michigan ping


174 posted on 01/02/2011 5:33:32 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Liz

A tree’s known by it’s fruit...

Detroit’s the fruit of liberal ideas...


175 posted on 01/02/2011 6:27:17 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the ping.


176 posted on 01/02/2011 6:27:56 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: Springman; sergeantdave; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; ...

If you would like to be added or dropped from the Michigan ping list, please freepmail me.


177 posted on 01/02/2011 7:47:11 PM PST by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: hcmama

From the 1977 classic, KENTUCKY FRIED MOVIE - No, not Detroit!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVDDYQlmq0w


178 posted on 01/02/2011 9:39:01 PM PST by doug from upland (Barack Hussein Obama - making Jimmy Carter look better every day)
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To: truthguy

Thanks for the compliment, you’re very kind to an old man. But no, I am not a writer either professional or amateur, just an old retired salesman with a lot of miles on my clock.


179 posted on 01/03/2011 8:06:39 AM PST by epow ( A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. Proverbs 15:1)
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To: Aleya2Fairlie
However, I sincerely hope it isn’t too late.

Hope is always a good thing, and perhaps your's will be fulfilled. At my age I won't live to see a reversal of the current drift toward 2nd or even 3rd world status for America, if by the grace of God it is reversed, but I can and do pray for a brighter future for America and my grandkids.

As a devout Christian I don't believe the US can be saved from eventual collapse into economic and social disaster unless our people return to honoring and worshiping the Christian God of our Founding Fathers. The liberal revisionists who claim that those great men were mostly deists, and even some atheists, who wanted Christian principles and practices totally excluded from the government they created are God-hating liars. Yes, a few of those men were merely deists, and at least one prominent patriot, Paine, was an atheist. But the majority were God-honoring Christian patriots, and some were Christian pastors, Patrick Henry for one example, and that is the verifiable truth. You can read some of the painstakingly researched history of those men compiled by Wallbuilders (http://www.wallbuilders.com/) to get verifiable, factual information about them and their beliefs, much of which is in their own words.

If words on paper have meaning the fact is that the US government was established on Christian principles primarily by God fearing Christian patriots who knew that God only blesses those nations who honor and bless His Son.

180 posted on 01/03/2011 9:16:44 AM PST by epow ( A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger. Proverbs 15:1)
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To: kearnyirish2
Why not? Detroit looks like Phnom Penh post-Killing Fields.

Well, some parts certainly do. There are still some nice places, if you know where to look...and you don't plan to stay too terribly long after sunset...

181 posted on 01/03/2011 1:49:24 PM PST by Miss_Meyet (A Happy and Prosperous 2011 to all !)
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To: sinanju
Howmuchyoowannabet that for various liberal government property/health/safety/regulatory reasons no legitimate business can cut through the red tape to be allowed to legally go in and salvage that stuff?

I think with all the really bad stuff the local cops have to worry about you could just pull up a stake side truck with four or five men and just gut the place.

Since no one cares to do something now then at least let some remodelers have at it and gain something from the mayhem.

182 posted on 01/03/2011 3:06:03 PM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Miss_Meyet

Newark, NJ is like that; they try to keep the consumers there after they get out of work (or draw others in who don’t work there), but they know better. After dark all bets are off; if there is a high profile event there are more police than attendees.


184 posted on 01/04/2011 11:54:37 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: kearnyirish2

I worked in downtown Detroit for a few months, my first day, my boss sat me down and said “Rule #1 - You are NOT to be in this building past 4:30, make sure you are on the road by then.”


185 posted on 01/04/2011 11:57:51 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

When I went to school in Newark, NJ we were advised that if we were there at night, we should slow down at red lights, look both ways, then proceed...


186 posted on 01/04/2011 12:01:30 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: hcmama

The lost city of detroit

This is what should be on Rush’s website and on Hanity and even on Cavuto


187 posted on 01/04/2011 12:04:38 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: hcmama

I spent an evening driving around Detroit on Google street scenes.

There are entire neighborhoods of vacant lots where houses once stood, then a small cluster of a few homes then nothing again. It has the appearance of being rural but it’s within 15 minutes drive time of downtown.

The commercial areas have more boarded up stores than operating stores.


188 posted on 01/04/2011 12:08:41 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Rebelbase

It’s the future of a lot of cities in this country.


189 posted on 01/04/2011 12:10:04 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Frantzie
"Libraries were they left the books - not like anyone in the city can read."


190 posted on 01/04/2011 12:14:29 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: dfwgator

Check out these real estate listings in Detroit. It’s surreal.

http://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Detroit_MI#/sortby-1


191 posted on 01/04/2011 12:19:59 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: hcmama

Yeah, well Detroit might be in ruins but they just got $49 million to buy 40,000 lap tops and 5,000 desk top computers for students, all from the stimulus money.


192 posted on 01/04/2011 12:28:23 PM PST by Eva
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To: Rebelbase

WOW! $200 for a fixer upper “fire damaged” house?!

$1000 for a luxury condo?


193 posted on 01/04/2011 12:33:07 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

I bet that condo for $1000 has $800/mo. taxes and $600/mo. condo fee.


194 posted on 01/04/2011 12:38:17 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: hcmama

Interesting stats on Detroit from Wiki:

Of the top 10 employers in the city, six are public (state/local/fed/university)

Public jobs constitute 66% of the top 10 employers.

Detroit has lost 1/2 it’s population since 1950.


195 posted on 01/04/2011 2:08:48 PM PST by Rebelbase
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