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Tips for Landing a Federal Job
Fedsmith ^ | January 10, 2011 | Kristin Andersen

Posted on 01/10/2011 7:28:03 PM PST by Poundstone

As a Certified Federal Career Coach and Resume Writer, I regularly speak with individuals (primarily first-time federal job seekers) who are interested and determined to secure job with the federal government. Who can blame them? A government career brings with it outstanding benefits and unlimited promotional potential, not to mention that federal employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector workers in more than eight out of 10 occupations (as determined by a USA TODAY analysis). So what's problem? Well, to be frank, securing a government job can be a job itself.

(Excerpt) Read more at fedsmith.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: employment; federal; government; jobs

1 posted on 01/10/2011 7:28:08 PM PST by Poundstone
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To: Poundstone

May be of interest to those interested in federal employment. Fedsmith is a good source of information on federal jobs and working conditions.


2 posted on 01/10/2011 7:28:52 PM PST by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Poundstone

I willingness to service the emperor orally seems to be the only qualification these days.


3 posted on 01/10/2011 7:30:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Poundstone

From my observation, you have a leg up if you are anything but a heterosexual, white male.


4 posted on 01/10/2011 7:31:22 PM PST by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Poundstone
...not to mention that federal employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector workers in more than eight out of 10 occupations

GRRRRRRRRRRR!

5 posted on 01/10/2011 7:31:35 PM PST by CarryaBigStick (My office is an Airtractor 402)
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To: Poundstone

Well, if you’re in the protected minority class you already have a leg up on the competition. White males need not apply.


6 posted on 01/10/2011 7:31:50 PM PST by 38special (AK, CA, CO, NV, WA ... WTF?)
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To: Poundstone

When it comes to government jobs, it comes down to whom you know and not what you know! I am always astounded at the lack of professionalism, knowledge and information showed by the gvt workers at all levels (from city/county/state/federal). There is no way these people have successfully passed any civil test, no way on hell!


7 posted on 01/10/2011 7:35:52 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Poundstone

Rule #1. Kiss Obama’s ass before you head to your federal workplace.


8 posted on 01/10/2011 7:36:41 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: John Semmens
Fertile ground here....heh heh heh
9 posted on 01/10/2011 7:37:06 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: Poundstone

The purpose being what? No easier way to Hell than that.

Why are you recruiting more oppressors? Go away!


10 posted on 01/10/2011 7:37:26 PM PST by bvw
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To: Poundstone

Instead of hiring more people, a government that is worse than broke, being $14 TRILLION in the hole, should be firing thousands of bureaucrats who do nothing but make life miserable for the taxpayers who pay their inflated salaries.


11 posted on 01/10/2011 7:38:40 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Poundstone

She spelled “laden” wrong.

It’s spelled “laiden” on her site. ha ha


12 posted on 01/10/2011 7:39:13 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Poundstone
I have to ask:

With all of these requirements and steps, how is it that Federal employees seem to be people who would be unemployable outside of government?

Another way to Federal employment is to live in the district of a powerful Congressperson for whom you have demonstrably worked your ass off.

This is why very very few of those who work for the government are Registered Republicans. BTW, even elected Republicans have many Democrats on their staffs. Go figure. The reverse is never true.

13 posted on 01/10/2011 7:41:31 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (A pity Pinochet is still dead. He would have been ideal for 2012 ... or sooner.)
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To: Poundstone
Unfortunately, this means that majority of there positions are flooded with applicants.

Not a good sign when the resume coach has a glaring spelling/grammar error.

14 posted on 01/10/2011 7:42:21 PM PST by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: kittymyrib

We’re really more then $20 Trillion in the hole our budget doesn’t include things obama kept out...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-02-03/obama-s-6-3-trillion-scam-is-america-s-shame-jonathan-weil.html

You right FIRE MORE!


15 posted on 01/10/2011 7:44:20 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: Lorianne
Unfortunately, this means that majority of <them> there positions are flooded with applicants.

Fixed it.
16 posted on 01/10/2011 7:46:34 PM PST by andyk (Wealth != Income)
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To: Poundstone
I recommend:

Send a photocopy of one’s ACLU membership card.

For an added step bonus or two, add a copy of one’s “marriage” certificate to their same sex “life partner”.

And of course, when it comes to filling out the “race” questionnaire, check off anything but “White”.

17 posted on 01/10/2011 7:47:17 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (RomneyCare is Mitt`s Chappaquiddick)
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To: Poundstone

First, be a handicapped minority female gay.

A veteran’s preference may help, but a determined hiring authority can get around that.


18 posted on 01/10/2011 7:47:54 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Poundstone
My gut tells me that most good federal jobs are given to people that already have an "in" in whatever office has an open position.

The only reason that job requisitions are ever posted is because, by law, they have to be.

The selected candidate is a foregone conclusion.

19 posted on 01/10/2011 7:48:19 PM PST by Washi
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To: Poundstone

She also forgot the word “the” in this sentence.

So what’s problem? Well, to be frank, securing a government job can be a job itself.

I will right me own reseme if i wanna wrk for da gumbment...lol..i did that on purpose


20 posted on 01/10/2011 7:52:37 PM PST by Jessica2677 (S.O.S.)
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To: Poundstone

She also forgot the word “the” in this sentence.

So what’s problem? Well, to be frank, securing a government job can be a job itself.

I will right me own reseme if i wanna wrk for da gumbment...lol..i did that on purpose


21 posted on 01/10/2011 7:52:47 PM PST by Jessica2677 (S.O.S.)
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To: Poundstone; All
1) Double-digit IQ.

2) Certain knowledge you'd utterly fail in the real world.

3) Sense of entitlement to live by the stolen blood of others.

4) Willingness to face your Creator after a life of crime.

5) Able to shave a complete waste of protein every morning.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

22 posted on 01/10/2011 7:55:17 PM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: Washi

My little post office has two full time employees. Its no mistake they’re mother and daughter.


23 posted on 01/10/2011 8:09:37 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Washi

Describes a certain state of SC agency I used to work for. A slot would be posted, there would be a few token interviews, and then someone’s pal from outside would be hired, qualified or not. No doubt the same most everywhere.


24 posted on 01/10/2011 8:22:39 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: PAR35

All I have is piddly veteran’s pref. What few I have ever applied for regarding the few I am qualified for nothing happened anyway.

The closest I got to even being acknowledged was for a fireman/oiler on a NOAA vessel, not that I am that wild about going back on the water but it was at a time early last year when the job situation at work was really awful. The guy sent me a form response. The rest went nowhere as usual.


25 posted on 01/10/2011 8:26:49 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Poundstone

>>Well, to be frank, securing a government job can be a job itself.<<

Yeah — look at those geniuses at the TSA as great examples of how sharp you have to be to land a Federal Job.

When you are too stupid to flip burgers, and you are a minority, female or disabled, you just have to scrawl a big old “X” on the application form and you are in.


26 posted on 01/10/2011 8:27:31 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: Poundstone
Well, to be frank, securing a government job can be a job itself.

Tell me about it...once it became clear the engineering consulting firm I worked for was NOT going to get our contract with CALTRANS (CA DoT) renewed, I started applying for federal employment. This was in Feb 2010.

I got no response to my resume, whatsoever, until I completely re-wrote my application in June, and got my first job list referrals in July. At the end of July, my firm "furloughed" me, because they didn't have the guts to tell me I was not going to get back to work for them, but wanted to use my credentials as an engineer to try to secure jobs.

I got my first interview at the end of August, followed by another in early September. No more interviews after that.

A week before Halloween, I got a job offer from the first interview. After 3 months of unemployment benefits, I snapped it up, even if there was no relocation benefits offered (I eventually had to move the family 2500 miles on my own.)

Soon after that offer, I received another offer, from a federal job I never interviewed for, which would have required me to move clear across the country, to DC...again, out of my own pocket.

I finally left California on December 1st and started my federal job on December 6th.

Was it a lot of pain? Definitely.

Would I do it again? Maybe, depends on the circumstances.

Is it worth it? The security and benefits alone make it worth my effort...and I am quietly planting some Conservative seeds in the office.

27 posted on 01/10/2011 8:37:12 PM PST by JRios1968 (This is me, in a nutshell: "Let me out of here...I'm trapped in a nutshell!!!!")
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To: wally_bert

“All I have is piddly veteran’s pref. What few I have ever applied for regarding the few I am qualified for nothing happened anyway.”
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I must had applied for 500 Fed jobs after the Navy. I also thought my Vet’s preference would actually mean something. I filled up the filing cabinets with resumes and was never called for interviews - even though my experience was often a dead-match. I worked other jobs and kept applying. Finally I got lucky and the boss doing the hirng was an ex-navy guy. Got an “in” at GS-09...

Still, it was worth it. Got two promotions in 5 years since I actually worked (which doesn’t always matter..but I got lucky in that there were a few positions that required a bit of smarts and a work ethic). Still, it was comical seeing the level of output of many of the heavy set ladies. (I’m a serious minority and have to just smile when they discuss Oprah and get into those “Imma tell you girl” conversations).


28 posted on 01/10/2011 8:50:38 PM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: Washi

True, especially at higher ratings. These jobs are “wired” for a contractor or military member already woking in the office. Often they are only advertised for a couple days so the outsider can’t respond.


29 posted on 01/10/2011 8:52:01 PM PST by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: Poundstone
You too can stick yer snout in the public trough and for only $19.95, i'll tell you how!!!
30 posted on 01/10/2011 8:57:26 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone
Like Mignon Clyburn at the FCC oh did I fail to mention her dad is a congressman. Who the heck names their daughter after a steak “Filet Mignon”
31 posted on 01/10/2011 9:09:43 PM PST by funfan
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To: Robe

for later


32 posted on 01/10/2011 9:35:42 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Poundstone

What’s wrong with making an honest living.?


33 posted on 01/10/2011 10:09:24 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: funfan

LOL I see your point! One can hope that the father was maybe an Ambroise Thomas fan :)


34 posted on 01/10/2011 10:20:32 PM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: Poundstone
How stupid are you and your government payroll parasites? Has it not occurred to you the private sector economic engine of this country now sees you people as bloated all consuming welfare hogs who are clinging to the backs of the working class, refusing to let go?

Get off our f'ing backs.

35 posted on 01/10/2011 10:33:49 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

A friend of mine sent me (and others) this email with his musings. Long story short - government jobs suck wealth out of the economy, private jobs create wealth. Fits right in with this thread:

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The economy and the budget are out of sync. What happened?

Consider the (un)employment situation. Government employment has increased while ‘the private sector’ loses jobs. The public sector (including state and local governments and their outlays for public unions, including teachers, etc.) increases its number of employees and pays them more than those in the private sector, which drives (read: is) the economy. The public sector does not contribute to the economy, but represents instead a permanent and increasing drain on it. Its salaries and retirement benefits must come from money generated by the private sector. Has anyone checked the ensuing balance? I think that it might show the public employees’ pay and (generous) benefits offset much of the economy generated by private industry.

In other words, we in the private sector must work harder to pay those in the public sector, which represents an expense item rather than income. Government (and public union) employees receive generous pension benefits, while those of us in private industry must fend for ourselves in the face of a shrinking economy.

And the more that government grows (to provide services to an increasingly decreasing private sector that requires government benefits because it cannot afford to pay its own way), the more it costs.

The solution seems so simple. Cut government expense and allow the economy to grow. The alternative is ever-increasing government and ever-decreasing means to generate the money needed to run it. Government can rely on taxes only so long as there is money to be taxed. The result is easy to predict—self-destruction.

The current situation is counter-productive. How do we go about solving this problem?


36 posted on 01/10/2011 10:43:35 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Allthegoodusernamesaregone

I don’t think her father is an Opera lover so I am sticking with the steak


37 posted on 01/10/2011 11:19:17 PM PST by funfan
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To: DJlaysitup

I still keep my eyes on USAjobs and once in a great while see something that isn’t a doctor/nurse/medical or high end professional slot. I haven’t given up on it either. My position is kind of weird anyway and a long story.

Thanks for the advice and pep talk. That is always appreciated.


38 posted on 01/11/2011 5:40:18 AM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: JRios1968

Congratulations, JRios.

You may be surprised to find there are quite a few hardcore conservatives among the federal workforce — and more than a few FReepers!


39 posted on 01/11/2011 6:47:09 AM PST by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Poundstone; JRios1968
You may be surprised to find there are quite a few hardcore conservatives among the federal workforce

This is completely irrelevant.

American can no longer afford hundreds of thousands of government bureaucrats, your tax paid salaries, your generous tax paid health care benefits or your high end retirements package's, etc...

We simple cannot afford it any more...We're being choked off.

Don't you get it?

40 posted on 01/11/2011 9:23:34 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Poundstone

Sorry, I’m not cutout to be a Kapo or apologist.


41 posted on 01/11/2011 9:37:59 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: Poundstone
not to mention that federal employees earn higher average salaries than private-sector workers in more than eight out of 10 occupations (as determined by a USA TODAY analysis).

This is a bald faced lie. USA TOADY analysis is very biased and faulty.

42 posted on 01/11/2011 9:39:49 AM PST by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: andyk

You’re hired!


43 posted on 01/11/2011 12:56:50 PM PST by Lorianne (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. ___ George Orwell)
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To: dragnet2

Well,I think you’re overdramatizing things just a little. Federal employee compensation is such a tiny portion of the federal budget that it’s practically invisible.


44 posted on 01/11/2011 5:14:57 PM PST by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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